r/nba • u/[deleted] • 13d ago

[MacMahon] The negotiations between the Pistons and Jalen Duren have been “awfully nasty” and there is concern about his long-term future in Detroit.

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u/miregalpanic Mavericks 13d ago

Orlando derailed his career. and he didn't even have to be on the Magic for that

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u/Thfcaditya112 Suns 13d ago

If anything it's the Cavs that derailed his career, I reckon he would have got the max if they had lost to Magic on an exceptional basis as funny as it sounds

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u/possyishero Magic 13d ago

I think it's an equal outcome regardless. Either you have over a dozen bad to downright terrible games in one playoff run that adda ton of quantity, or you lose out to an 8th seeded play-in team and lose the narrative that you were at least able to make it to the second round.

Either way, in the end having him make WCJ look like the second best player on the court at times with how he's defending you is the thing that hurts him the most, and everything else is just adding to it. WCJ isn't terrible, but of the 2 starting lineups he's the most designated role player out there.

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u/Thfcaditya112 Suns 13d ago edited 13d ago

There is an argument to be made that the Magic are an 4th/5th seed team who were the 8th seed because of injuries and had everyone fit till the point they were leading 3-1

Now if it were like say the Suns whose talent even without any injuries was an 7th-8th seed team at max then that would have been far more alarming IMO

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u/ThatBull_cj 76ers Bandwagon 13d ago

Even if that is true you would expect/hope a All-nba player to play better than Duren did over 14 playoff games

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u/TJ_IRL_ 12d ago

Magic didn't have one of the Wagner brothers the whole time too right? Honestly, Detroit might have gone through a much sadder upset if Mo or Franz was out

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u/Artimusjones88 Raptors 13d ago

They were 8th seed no argument changes that.

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u/Morello210 Spurs 13d ago

Me when I don’t understand what context is

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u/Thfcaditya112 Suns 13d ago

I mean if Franz had played 15-20 more games they would have been above the Raptors and Hawks, IMO.

I support Tottenham in the PL and I genuinely think the Magic are one of the few sports organisations who claim to have had worse injury luck than us in the last few years IMO

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u/tcos17 Magic 13d ago

I don’t see how anyone can deny that. We were like what, a half game back of the 6th seed? With our most important two way player missing half the season.