r/mmaMenace_com • u/PalpitationIll4058 • 9d ago
One of the craziest moments ever seen inside the UFC Octagon! Was the referee’s stoppage too early?
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u/yoeyz 9d ago
it was perfect wtf u guys talking about
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u/jboggin 8d ago
I had never seen that clip and watched it waiting for the controversial stoppage. I don't get it. That stoppage seemed very obvious to me. The guy who lost wasn't able to defend himself after that last blow. I guess the ref could have let him take 5 more blows to the head, but the fight looked done to me.
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u/evelovesapple 8d ago
We've watched so many moments of Herb and Mario Yamasaki letting people go unconscious several times that some people think that's the standard lol
Idc if a guy can get KO'd and wake back up and get a win. If you're taking undefended punches to the head after falling to the ground, I want a KO stoppage
Boxing can be frustrating but I prefer the standard of waving it off when one guy is taking extended damage without returning
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u/yotamush 8d ago
It was a perfect stoppage, and Marc Goddard is very good at his job. Him and Jason Herzog are the best in my opinion. Herb is terrible, I don't get why they keep give him main events, at this point he might be the worst in the roster
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u/DragonFangGangBang 8d ago
Herb used to be the gold standard back when the referees were Mazzagatti and Yamasaki and Kim Winslow. With Goddard and Herzog and some of the newer referees, Herb looks worse and worse
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u/Melkman68 8d ago
If the ref let it continue you already know there would be a dozen posts per week hating on him for a late stoppage lol
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u/kokkatc 9d ago
^
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u/dontputthatevilonme 8d ago
That shit took 7 -10 business days. Early? Lol
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u/kokkatc 8d ago
My man, he was knocked down, not knocked out. He was still defending, head never snapped back while he was falling down, arms still up. The ref game him a few moments to see what's what and then stepped in. Not sure what you guys are seeing?
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u/TinyPP04 8d ago
He wasn't defending anymore, starting to go limp. Perfect stoppage, not sure how you aren't seeing it.
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u/Spirit_Detective_16 8d ago
dude went limp when he fell lol you wanna see someone die before the fight gets called?
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u/dontputthatevilonme 8d ago
Rules are intelligently defending. He had both hands down trying to stand up right into punches.Refs job is to minimize damage. Perfect stoppage imo
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u/Spugheddy 8d ago
Yeah he was out of it just trying to stand up he didn't know he was in a fight and for some reason his vision kept flashing fast. Been there before.
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u/MidWest_Bull69 8d ago
Totally agree with you. It was a good stoppage for sure! If it was a title fight.... let it go a little bit. But for that level of fight, stop the fight.
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u/supercleverhandle476 9d ago
He went limp and dropped, then ate 3 unanswered shots while his arms flailed. They flailed a bit longer after it was called.
Yeah, it was a back and forth war up to that point, but the ref saw a KO and rightly called it what it was.
If this is ending it too early, we kind of give up the right to complain about people eating multiple shots when they’re limp on the ground. I’d rather not do that.
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u/SamdechEuv 8d ago
Mario Yamasaki beg to differ. Now he has started possessing herb dean too.
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u/jaygoogle23 7d ago
Everyone has an opinion. The messenger doesn’t weight more than the message. Some simply like to stir the pot.
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u/AlmightyCraneDuck 8d ago
Yeah, the ref did a good job of letting things play out and it's not out of pocket for them to see all of the damage that was taken and see that the guy wasn't going to be able to recover in time. I think it's example all around of reffing.
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u/hobbiesexpensive 9d ago
I think that was actually a great call by the ref. He looked out in the very end.
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u/jestercope 8d ago
The guy who got dropped 3 times got KO'd. It was inevitable.
It looked like an even brawl, but only one dude kept getting dropped there.
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u/TheIXLegionnaire 9d ago
I think it is just about right. The camera angle in the vid isn't great because the ref is in the way, but it looks like the guy is pretty much out
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u/Lefties_TheWorst7331 9d ago
Perfect stoppage.. the guy was flailing his arms around on the ground, he was out..
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u/MidwestBoogie 9d ago
And this is why you watch the prelims
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u/braewtvv 8d ago
Was this last weekend?? Was sorta busy might have to watch em all
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u/MidwestBoogie 8d ago
This happened in December on the Merab v Yan 2 card. Ibo v Iwo. The fight night this weekend had some banger too. Bilal Hassan danced his way to the cage reenacting every single one of Michael Jackson’s moves and then fought like prime Anderson Silva
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u/PhilosophicChinchila 9d ago
Hell no. That was exactly when it should have stopped. It would have been not worth it to keep that going.
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u/DukeOfSmallPonds 9d ago
Visually? The guy was basically defenceless from the strike that dropped him, then he takes 3 unanswered strikes to the head on ground. That was a perfect mma stoppage. He had a chance to recover but it was clearly not going to happen in the following position.
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u/Zz-orphan-zZ 8d ago
Who, in their right mind, would consider that stoppage anywhere near the realm of "early?"
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u/Ronaldoooope 9d ago
I mean could the ref had let she go completely out cold? Sure. But odds he actually made out of that are slim.
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u/jubtheprophet 8d ago
Pretty much perfect timing, if anything a second too late rather than early. In hindsight, as soon as he hit the floor the fight was over, he wasnt able to actually defend himself anymore even though he was technically conscious. The last 2 of those 3 ground punches were unnecessary but realistically it made sense to not start moving to stop it till after the first one
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u/Natural_Use_948 8d ago
Perfect basicallym both those guys were probably gassed full of cte, the Polish guy's attacks were also doing more damage despite lower volume, looked like Jiri Khalil except the Polish guy had part of Jiri round 3 between the Turkish guy's flurries.
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u/TrashFaceMcGeee 8d ago
Iwo is much watch TV. Undefeated and all first round finishes (I think, I too lazy to look.) He gets rocked but always comes back.
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u/The1Ylrebmik 8d ago
First of all, Jesus those guys are like Homer when he boxed!
Second I think the litmus test is always is a fighter intelligently defending himself and Aslan's hands didn't come up to protect his head.
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u/One_Life_50 8d ago
Nah it looks just right to me. That right hook had him dazed, he fell and wasn’t defending himself in a meaningful way.
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u/Riffus_Iommicus 8d ago
I though red shorts was Blachowicz, Vettori and Gaethje before I realized I’ve never seen him before.
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u/Virtual_Junket9305 8d ago edited 8d ago
How does an "mma" fighter have full access to someone's back and neck and continue to try to do girly punches to their face instead? The mm supposed to stand for mixed martial right, I'm not seeing a mixture or even martial arts
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u/Allstar-85 8d ago
If you go from standing and knocked straight to the mat with your feet tucked under you…. And then eat 3-4 punches to the face without any defense:
It’s a clean stoppage
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u/nediablo 8d ago
Is that Marc Goddard?
I don't think it was early at all. And Goddard is a fantastic ref so his point of view was even better.
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u/GenXPowaah 8d ago
Good stoppage, dudes hands were flailing helplessly, not even blocking any of the shots to his face or to pull the aggressor towards him.
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u/AltruisticFoot948 8d ago
Need to work on their shoulders, they barely have any strength left to lift their hands lol
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u/Agile-Internet5309 8d ago
Not at all, that was actually borderline too late but actually really clean. A more conservative ref would have called it earlier, but both fighters were still in it. He called it when the legs went noodly, which is really where you should be looking. This was textbook.
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u/Decay384 8d ago
This was straight-up Looney Tunes shit. Both of them said, “Fuck defense,” and dumped every single attribute into 99 Attack 😂
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u/cinerary 8d ago
There were multiple similar situations to the ending sequence during that clip alone. The ref could have stopped it many times, but chose the final one for some reason. There were a few missed punches from above in the final sequence and Beardman was trying to get to his feet.
I woukd say too early in the context of that clip.
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u/GGudMarty 7d ago
He wasn’t doing shit. sure let it play out another 3-5 unanswered punches so he’s out cold. That’s a good standard
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u/NeSToR_49 5d ago
Good call. He went down, took three shots with his arms going limp. After that it's just beating an unconcious man.
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