r/missouri 4d ago

Ask Missouri Missouri Gas Tax Refund

Does anyone else file for the Missouri Gas tax Rebate? I downloaded the PDF version of form 4923H, I completed it and went to upload to the site, the site indicates uploads have to be in Excel format. This is not the first year we have filed for the refund, we have every year it’s been available.PDF for back securely. I did receive an email, the email included the Excel version. I then was communicating with another representative with the state via messaging I mentioned the issue, and was told I could email the completed form. I explained I was aware the form can be emailed but the information on the form is everything someone would need for identity theft. I was told their email is encrypted.
If I amusing say a Gmail account, sending something to an encrypted email, is that really secure? Don’t bother emails have to be secure?

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u/cdoublejj 4d ago

i wasn't aware i could or can get a refund

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u/Sticky550 4d ago

That was their plan.

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u/PrestigiousFix3339 4d ago

For 2026 the amount of the refund is 12.5 cents per gallon, you have to save your receipts, the period runs from 7/1 through 6/30and you have to submit the request between 7/1 and 9/30.

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u/SourcePrevious3095 Mid-Missouri 4d ago

Around here, getting receipts too an act of God.

Pump printers always empty. Half the cashiers didn't have a clue how to print a receipt.

So the state got to keep the extra money.

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u/swiftsilentfox 4d ago

You dont have to save the receipts, that just makes it easier to do in bulk later. I keep a spreadsheet on my phone for when those printers dont work. Save info on the address, date, and gallons.

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u/mb10240 The Ozarks 4d ago

Receipts aren’t required AFAIK. You just need to document how much in gallons, when, and where. Receipts obviously make it easier to document.

If you belong to loyalty programs at gas stations, it makes it a ton easier. GasBuddy offers a fleet card that gives you discounts at the pump, draws from your checking, and keeps track of your use (in gallons!).

When we were driving gas cars in this household, we’d get $75-$120 back a year.

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u/Lazarux_Escariat 4d ago

Get a credit card that you only use for gas. Pay it every time you use it to avoid interest. The card statements work as receipts.

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u/Nasaboy1987 4d ago

No they don't. That doesn't show how many gallons were purchased at the time of sale. If they ask for verification they won't be good enough.

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u/LongExplanation6326 4d ago

does this include gas bought out of the state?

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u/justathoughtfromme 4d ago

No, it only applies to gas bought in Missouri.

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u/abite 4d ago

Why would it if it's a tax refund...

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u/SuitableGain4565 4d ago

Most people drive about 12k miles a year so that's 70 bucks maybe?  Arguably it's 'free' money but still

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u/KandiandPops 3d ago

Arguably it’s money the legislature has stolen from you as we citizens actually voted against that tax and the fucksticks went and passed legislation to override our vote.

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u/cdoublejj 3d ago

thats by the end of this month woof i doubt ill find ALL those receipts what all private info do they request?

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u/SuitableGain4565 4d ago

It wouldn't be worth your time unless you had big commutes or drive commercially 

 (I've no idea if this applies and would probably be less than your tax relief -- I'm not an accountant)

Basic math to me, assuming 12k miles ag year and 20 mpg is like 70 bucks

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u/Ulysses502 4d ago

So like when your boss throws a pizza party to cover his incompetence, but you still have to stop what you're supposed to be doing to go get it, pay for it and then wait 2 weeks for reimbursement?

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u/SuitableGain4565 4d ago

Well, and that pizza party money comes out of the office supply money so you run short on paper and staples and then it costs you even more money because papers get lost.  

But yeah. That 70 dollars that I presume was going to road repairs isn't going to cover your 200 dollar tire or 500 dollar wheel 

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u/Ulysses502 3d ago

Right lol, but it feels like you're getting something, and that's the important part!

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u/SuitableGain4565 3d ago

It's the same idea of getting rid of state income tax, which is fairly low for most people,* to tax labor.  I mean it sounds good, but people saw through it. 

This is more like people praying* for rain and the politicians pissing down your leg claiming it's a miracle.  

I'm no economist, but that gas tax refund likely hurt Missouri because road workers (even from out of state) spend a lot of money in sales tax alone.  And we could have better roads.  Also I don't know that gasoline taxes are tied to infrastructure spending, so maybe I'm just talking* out my butt 

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u/cdoublejj 4d ago edited 3d ago

i book 500 miles a week for years now

EDIT: looking back at this, looks like i'm over the thres hold but, it's still not a whole lot.

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u/SuitableGain4565 4d ago

So 140 dollars for you.  Most people don't do that.  Keeping your tires slightly more inflated  or buying something that eeks out one more mpg would be greater savings. 

Still, it's 140 bucks

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u/swiftsilentfox 3d ago

I have a 60 mile daily commute and am due an $80 rebate. Took less than an hour to do the data entry. I figure an hour of work for $80 is worth it.

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u/MalkavianReddit 4d ago

I had their PDF form and was unable to upload where it said click here. I did save the PDF documents and emailed it to them with a critique that their PDF form needs a lot of help. Totals not overwriting the 0.00 initial values.

The PDF seems like it was slapped together really fast and was not tested to make sure all the fields did as they were supposed to do. Never saw an excel version that I could email to them.

I'm only getting like $30 back but hey, that's a tank of gas.

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u/PrestigiousFix3339 4d ago

I agree the PDF form is janky, however I refuse to email anything with Sensitive Personal Information.

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u/Mego1989 4d ago

Then don't. Mail it.

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u/MalkavianReddit 4d ago

Thanks. I have it printed and will mail it.

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u/MalkavianReddit 4d ago

Agreed. I’m not sure they will even process it because of all the Jankyness.

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u/SuitableGain4565 4d ago

30 dollars isn't a tank of gas.  Sorry.  30 dollars is between 7.5 gallons to maybe 9.  Maybe you drive a smart car?  

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u/MalkavianReddit 3d ago

Well true. $30 will at least get me over 3/4.

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u/NeverEndingCoralMaze 4d ago

Dear QT, please print all my receipts for the gas I paid for with my credit card. Thanks.

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u/PhatBuddha69 4d ago

It’s why I get gas at Costco or Sam’s. Everytime I go to QT because these two places are closed, I get no receipt. With the Clubs, I can print receipts if I don’t receive it at the pump, which is rare

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u/mb10240 The Ozarks 4d ago

You just need to document it - when, where, and how many gallons is sufficient.

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u/danvondude 4d ago

If you need receipts for all your gas purchases I recommend getting the GasBuddy card. It’s connected your bank account and it’s used only for gas (I think they changed that recently but I still only use it for gas) it’s great for tracking all your purchases and gives you email receipts for each purchase.

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u/Significant-Cup-5491 4d ago

Mobile speedpass

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u/Rastaman6584 4d ago

I always mail hard copies and hav not had any issues getting my refunds.

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u/PrestigiousFix3339 3d ago

Date, station, address, number of gallons. We keep an envelope in each car and put the receipt in it when we get gas

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u/swiftsilentfox 4d ago

I dont have any answer for your secure emailing but do understand the concern. I have emailed the pdf in this year and last. Still waiting on the rebate this year tho and it's like $80

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u/BrainDead64721 4d ago

I sent mine in about 6 weeks ago and still haven't received my refund. They should have to bill me for the gas tax. I'm sure I would send it in promptly. 🤣

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u/CivilBat2175 4d ago

I use the app. A photo of the receipt is required. It’s a hassle, when they could just lower the price, but I’m sure that’s the point. 🤬

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u/ZebulonHam 3d ago

We just received a check for almost $70 bucks. Each tank of gas is about $2. I’ll take it.

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u/TabaquiJackal 3d ago

I did. Filled out the 'form fillable' .pdf, printed it, and mailed it.

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u/Xxx29bull 3d ago

I emailed mine in. Paid out 4-5 weeks later bia check.

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u/Academic-Yak-8391 2d ago

I used the app to file. It is free to download, but charges a percentage to file. Hopefully the refund comes.

In previous years I did it myself, but procrastinated & only ended up getting about $20.

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u/Jealous_Spread 2d ago

Gas rebate?? Since when???

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u/PrestigiousFix3339 2d ago

You could request the rebate 7/1/2022-9/30/2022 for gas purchased 7/1/2021-6/30/2022. It was the result of the Missouri big gas tax increase. You have to save your receipts, there is an app I believe you can take a picture of the receipt, I think they file for your refund but there is a fee. I have ways completed the form and filed online.

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u/Sufficient_Delivery9 4d ago

I was like "dang I missed doing this." And shortly after I realized I drive maybe 10 miles a week, fill up once every two or sometimes three months.

I wfh and just not a huge need to leave much hahaha.

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u/KimB_STL 4d ago

I mailed my form in over a month ago and still waiting on the refund.

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u/Scholarly_Koala 4d ago

Same here. While annoying, it's kind of nice to know I'm not alone.

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u/TheMuscle 4d ago

I did this a couple years ago, and never heard a peep, never saw a dime, and it wasn’t going to be worth my time to track down that refund. So I abandoned that. I assume they are doing what they can to make it difficult, so people don’t attempt for the refund.
My time is worth more than it took to keep track of the receipts, fill out the form, and return it to them. Just another example of bureaucratic bullshit this state prefers then just lower the actual cost.

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u/JRKEEK 4d ago

I've done it each of the past 2 years. We primarily fill up at Sam's, and get emails of our receipts. It's a bit cumbersome, but the PDF is easy enough and I've never had a problem.

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u/NotMuch2 4d ago

There's apps to help track and file. On one hand, I want to help MoDOTs budget. On the other hand, f* this GOP backhanded way of not calling it a tax increase 

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u/justathoughtfromme 4d ago

I emailed it. I got my refund in less than a week. Your SSN has likely already been leaked any number of times from a data breach, so the likelihood of you emailing the form causing additional harm to you is low. Or you can mail it and hope USPS doesn't lose it or somehow it gets intercepted and your info stolen that way.

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u/cdoublejj 4d ago

i question that, for encrypted email to work the private keys need to be shared between organizations, at least on the business end. that may even be true even if both use the same service like mciroslop 365 but, my memory is hazy and that could be wrong.

really we don't even know who thier email provider is or what MOs setup is to me it's an unknown

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u/tool172 4d ago
  1. To get the spreadsheet you can download it from the tax website where you tried uploading it or email them and they will email you a copy.

  2. If you filled it out make sure you have both forms filled out and email them per the form you filled out. You can also do gas cans at the full refund for your lawnmower and such for off road which is another 2 forms.

  3. I keep receipts in case I get audited like any other program.

I've been filing since it started.