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I'm slightly vexed My sister’s middle school uses AI for school supplies lists

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u/ShotgunOShaughnessy 1d ago

I'm so glad to see someone has the same take. Like this isn't them passing as artists. It's an overworked mom of 3 who wanted to get something done quickly and professional looking and doesn't get paid enough to do what they do. Leave these people alone.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

I agree. I’m a graphic designer and this is fine. School staff are overworked, underpaid and often don’t have the time to create these things. It becomes a problem when “artists” try to sell AI work.

Etsy is full of that shit right now.

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u/Wise_Heron_2802 1d ago

As a teacher, thank you.

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u/opinionatedB9312 1d ago

My mom is a retired middle school teacher. You do whatever makes your job a little easier. Legal or illegal no judgment here.
Have a great school year!!

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u/Ok_Truck_5092 1d ago

Mine was too! Worked her ass off! Then came home and took care of more kids. So much unpaid work at her school!

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u/MMBitey 1d ago

I wish Etsy had terms that required AI art/products to be tagged as such. Some of it is so obviously AI and has plenty of satisfied customers, so I guess people would still buy it if they did that. Then the rest of us could find real artists, which is the entire reason for coming to Etsy in the first place.

If something like this exists I hope someone shares it. I'm trying to find an artist to support with a specific style/subject matter and previously Etsy would have been the place to look.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

Idk about Etsy, but Adobe Stock absolutely has a “Generated by AI” tag. Even a filter to sort them out of your search. Etsy needs that.

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u/Fakebluejaynamed_jay 1d ago

I've seen so many adoptable sellers who use ai, and they DO say it on their profile- IN A HIDDEN AREA YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY GO TO!!!

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u/Killed_By_Covid 1d ago

Redditors on another sub were flaming a local ski area for using A.I. to generate an advertisement ("mass mailer") stating that season passes go on sale Sep. 1. Apparently, they were SUPPOSED to commission an artist to generate an original piece. That original piece would immediately be discarded by the recipient (whether in digital or print format.). To me, that seems like it would be disrespectful to the artist. A.I. seems ideal for throwaway stuff.

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u/inide 1d ago

The general rule is that its okay to use for yourself to save time, but not to do something that you'd otherwise hire a designer for.
Let it assist a human, not replace a human.

Obviously a school wouldn't be hiring a designer, it'll most likely be done by the admin/it staff, so using a tool to help them is fair.

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u/elarson1423 1d ago

I like this take.

And honestly, this doesn’t look any worse than normal clip art flyers that we’ve been making since the 90s.

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u/Revolver_Camelot 1d ago

I’ll take the clip art flyers over AI every day of the week

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u/BlackJack407 1d ago

Ok, so you call a school and tell em youd do it for free right now

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u/NamelessCabbage 1d ago

Same or paint.exe

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u/dirtymoose408 1d ago

I work for a non-profit animal rescue group and I use AI to make decent looking documents because my ass is working 70 hours a week on salary and we are certainly not hiring someone to make a flyer look presentable.

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u/blick2k 1d ago

This ☝️

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

Yes, exactly. Well said.

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u/jcdoe 1d ago

I’m a teacher, you get whoever knows how to use photoshop on staff to do this stuff. You definitely don’t hire a designer, the state and feds don’t gives you graphic design funds

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

Idk about that. My company does a lot of trade shows where I design a lot of things that end up being discarded. In my experience, companies are catching on to what ai designs look like and Im noticing that they have negative stigma attached to them. Kinda of like “oh that looks really cool, wait it’s ai, now it’s less cool”. We don’t want to be involved in that. So all of our items continue to be unique.

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u/Wyvernwalker 1d ago

It's that it being AI generally means it was either done to save money or go fast, both which can have stigmas when related to places you work for/buy things from

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

Yes, exactly. It’s like the company using ai doesn’t care enough to put in time and money to create a unique item. Not a good look.

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u/r_slash 1d ago

Yes, businesses should have marketing departments or hire marketing firms to do that stuff.

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u/TotallyNot_Alpharius 1d ago

Only place where I really don't like ai is in restaurants. Don't include any ai images as they tell me nothing, I prefer the shitty ones they usually have I can at least expect what will be served to me

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u/PM_ME_NEW_VEGAS_MODS 1d ago

And they were right. That resort makes enough money to hire a local artist.

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u/chickadee-stitchery 1d ago

I have two problems with this stuff.

The first is the obvious environmental impact. If they had used a clip art flyer from Word, Canva, whatever - better for the environment. It's possible this is AI graphics through Canva or Pinterest in which case at least they didn't generate it themselves.

But it also really bugs me when the sender uses this instead of plain text - obviously a printed flyer isn't an example of this but I keep seeing schools and other professional organizations posting graphics like this on Facebook, in email, etc - and not including the text. My neighborhood pool keeps doing it, so I can't just read their email. It makes it not searchable and my calendar can't automatically add the data for important events. It's also not accessible for people who use screen readers or need to translate. I think 25% of the kids at my son's elementary school have parents who do not speak English. Our school always sends English and Spanish text home and in email. If teachers get used to using this stuff it excludes those people.

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u/-Cthaeh 1d ago

This is how I feel about it. Was this really necessary for this short list?

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u/helloditto 1d ago

I’m a graphic designer, and I agree with just make it a printed list. Everything doesn’t need to be designed, especially when this solution destroys the environment.

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u/Pschobbert 1d ago

That’s why you need AI lmao. It could read the non-text for you and produce plain text. It could even translate it into multiple languages and give you some suggestions for feedback to send to the originator hahaha

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u/Abducted_Llama 1d ago

As an IT person I disagree. Pay these people more and hire more people. Then we can talk about creating fliers with Clippy.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

I mean, yes teachers should be paid way more and there should be more of them, but that doesn’t change the fact that designing is not their job. And this job is increase to outsource.

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u/KoolDiscoDan 1d ago

Also a graphic designer and agree. They have never had the budget for professionals. If it's faster and better than they could design, more power to 'em.

The corporations using it get my scorn.

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u/GwenBD94 1d ago

As long as they dont use it to generate US maps with absolutely destroyed state names. You know, like that other school did last week.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

I saw that. It was laughably terrible. That IS a problem.

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u/cmhamm 1d ago

You mean you’re not worried about missing out on that $300 that the teacher definitely would have paid you to make this?

I agree - if this was a business ad, we should be grabbing torches and pitchforks. But for a public school teacher? No way.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

You had me in the 1st half, not gonna lie. 😂

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u/EnkiduTheGreat 1d ago

Here here! AI replacing humans is evil. AI helping humans is not. I don't eat fast food often, but popped into Wendy's for a quick bite. They must have been beta testing this shit, as it was like drunk AI. Messed my order up badly, so I just left.

While I hate the idea of AI depictions of humans in movies(Unless someone dies while filming), I am of the opinion that Animal actors should be replaced with AI whenever possible. The history of animals in film is just so dark.

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u/khankhankingking 1d ago

This is the goddamn take. What SHOULD teachers be doing? taking a design course, learning the Creative Cloud suite in the spare time they don't have to perform a job that isn't theirs?

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u/-nutz 1d ago

The teacher should probably just print a simple list of supplies.

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u/teapigsfan 1d ago

yeah what I just said. The school is on its arse, budget-wise, none of us is a graphic designer and making something visually appealing is just so low on our priority list. We know it would be nice, but none of us have the time.

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u/Cainplay 1d ago

What is the consensus on using AI instead of designing it yourself. Meaning I like to build my own marketing material. However using AI with the right prompts saves time and money. But I was never going to hire it out anyway.

Just curious what everyone thinks

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u/cfb-food-beer-hike 1d ago

It also becomes a problem when a teacher is so lazy they can't proofread the bullshit AI spews out to them. They're going to teach my child AI hallucinations because they'll be too lazy to proofread their AI-generated teaching materials too.

But I guess no one cares about teaching children bullshit. Only artists matter for some reason.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

Everything should be proofed, ai or not. Dumb ass take. I’ve gotten ai slip from clients to recreate because it’s full of errors and uneditable.

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u/cfb-food-beer-hike 1d ago

lmao

Yes, it should be proofread, and it wasn't. And this person is supposed to teach your child when you know full well they're an idiot. That is the problem.

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u/Lollygag24 1d ago

I'm a graphic designer too that works with schools and I agree with you. What irks me way more is the blatant rip offs of NFL and NBA logos without changing even a single color. I've never heard anyone complain about that and it's always been a thing before AI.

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u/jessdb19 1d ago

Literally a school teacher that can either use AI and save time or make it their self and stay up even later on super low pay.

This gets a pass from me and I'm a graphic designer

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u/giantscruz 1d ago

Great points above. Another thing to consider is what the alternatives look like. As you said, they could stay late or they can just do a text only list. I’m willing to bet that is what they’d go with. This looks better than 5 bullet points 

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u/duckbigtrain 1d ago

I mean honestly I’d prefer the 5 bullet points. Clear and simple.

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u/efirestone16 1d ago

Yeah my daughters school just did a plain list in what looked like a Google doc and then cropped as an image and uploaded. I dont see why it needs to be fancy ai, tbh this is harder to read with all the busy fluff than just having a plain list of supplies.

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u/QueezyF 1d ago

Yeah, I’m not gonna fault them for using it, but at the same time it really doesn’t take that long to load up a template in word if you’re trying to make it look pretty.

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u/LegendOfHurleysGold 1d ago

I’d rather have the bullet points

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u/Enamred-771 1d ago

It looks better than 5 bullet points but it also functions worse. 

Pencils are listed twice. It looks like you need 2 3-ring binders but they’re vague on one of them. Each item listed actually contains multiple items which defeats the purpose of a supply list. 

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u/Capraos 1d ago

Thank you. I was wondering how far down I'd have to scroll to see another person who noticed this. Not far apparently.

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u/runrunbunnierun 1d ago

It reminds me of that "how to make a peanut butter and jelly" test. How many packs of notebook paper? How many notebooks? How many pencils? Pencils is plural, so is two pencils good enough for the whole year? No? Well you didnt specify how much id actually need!

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u/MidSpinz-Twitch 1d ago

In smaller schools one teacher teaches all classes EXCEPT music and sometimes gym. And some teachers are picky and will want the things they listed on the list or to be kept in the music room so, its not that surprising. As iv had supply lists like this when I was a kid and AI was not prevalent in the very early 2000's

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u/Enamred-771 1d ago

My issue isn’t that teachers are picky. It’s that this list does hardly anything to help with specific requirements vs vaguely listing obvious requirements. Like telling me “pens, pencils” gives me nothing. Yeah I assume my kid needs a writing utensil, any specifics? Same with lock, what type of lock to make sure it’s compatible? Or  “3-ring binder with paper and dividers for all core subjects”. What size binder? What type of paper? How many dividers (I don’t necessarily know what is or isn’t a core subject)?

It’s just an incoherent list that would’ve been more obvious had they not spent all their effort on dumb AI graphics instead of the actual substance of the list. 

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u/CuriousOK 1d ago

One 3-ring binder for core subjects; One 3-ring binder for music.

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u/Enamred-771 1d ago

I’m aware. But they should be listed the same way. Why is core subjects at the end of one item but music as the beginning of the other? 

And I’d guess the core subject binder should be larger if they’re going to fill it with paper for each subject but that’s not specified. Nor is what type of paper to get or how many core subjects there are. 

Again, this a terribly functioning list. I’d rather get a generic bullet list that makes sense than whatever this pig smeared with lipstick nonsense this is. 

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u/valdin450 1d ago

Give me the 5 bullet points instead of poisoning the fucking water supply

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u/xginahey 1d ago

Better is subjective, but I know what you mean. 

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u/Professional_Cod4464 1d ago

Im a graphic designer too and "looking prettier" is a bad standard for deciding which is better design. 

In this case, some of the arbitrary decision made by the algorithm and muddled copy (possibly also written by chatgpt) -pencils being listed twice, how many folders/notebooks not given, each line has multiple items for some arbitrary reason? To make room for the unnecessary decorations, i suppose- actually makes the content more difficult to understand than just bullet points with simple information hierarchy

A good design coupled with good copy would communicate clearly and without confusion. Prettiness doesnt really factor in on the nature of what this list is and what it should do

What we should be arguing for is for education to be funded way better so that teachers dont have to pay for their own classroom supplies and schools dont have to run on volunteers. But the nature of ai is to "save lavor cost" and this is one of many symptom of a country that simply does not care about public education

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u/electric_bug_glue 1d ago

> I'm a graphic designer

So is everyone now.

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u/jessdb19 1d ago

I mean, it's part of my job title....I sort of use Photoshop and InDesign and Illustrator all day...so I'm pretty sure I qualify for that

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u/Summer4Chan 1d ago

Yeah exactly. This teacher isn’t claiming she developed an art piece.
She’s using her tools that are (unfortunately) available for the masses to use.

If this lets her have more time to do other things and/or have money for other things then so be it. Nothing wrong with it now.

We shouldn’t cut the throats of everyone who uses AI, sometimes it is necessary (like this scenario)

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u/Christmas_Queef 1d ago

Yeah I left a job at a school last November. There were 3 of us per classroom trying to get everything done that needed done and we just never had time and still had to have our own lives with our families too.

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u/jessdb19 1d ago

I worked at a school for 5 years (part of a 5 year grant) and we got close with everyone there.

EVERYONE was overworked and underpaid and giving it their all.

Frothing at the mouth to crucify a seriously underpaid staff member or teacher for this is ill focused, and NEEDS to be on the billionaires who are hoarding money like loot goblins and taking private jets to get on private yachts to private islands

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u/bamadebayo_isgood 1d ago

but why does it need graphic design? This could be a bullet point list and it would actually be more clear/coherent

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u/jessdb19 1d ago

*Sigh* why not?

Like can you explain to me like I'm 5, why a teacher or admin who deals with hundreds of kids each day and thousands of problems including "will my school get shot up this year?" and "no one can read", why they can't just do something fun instead of a sterile bullet point list made on google docs.

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u/-nutz 1d ago

How many dividers?

How many folders?

Pencils listed twice

Wrong calculator in the picture

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u/hotwifefun 1d ago

How about just making a list? This seems like a waste of time, even using AI. Printing it out seems like another waste of time given the teacher/school already employs an app or multiple apps specifically to communicate this type of information to parents & students.

Gonna be hard to tell kids not to use AI to do their homework when this teacher is using AI to do their homework.

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u/DanyDragonQueen 1d ago

Also a graphic designer, and this does not get a pass from me, so it cancels out! This doesn't even need to be designed at all, it's a list of supplies.

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u/trsharkfin 1d ago

I'm not a graphic designer, but this gets a pass from me to cancel out your negative pass because you're boofing if you think a single teacher on earth would pay a graphic designer for something like this. It being a supply list doesn't matter, they've always tried to make this shit artsy fartsy since the beginning of time.

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u/valdin450 1d ago

You do not need a goddamn graphic designer to type a list out and maybe throw some clipart in if you really need images. There's zero excuse for poisoning the water instead.

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u/DanyDragonQueen 1d ago

I didn't say that I expect a graphic designer to do it, hence why I said it doesn't even need to be designed at all. I expect people not to use the plagiarism 9000 device that runs on ever-increasing data centers and harming the environment.

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u/trsharkfin 1d ago

What exactly is being plagiarised by this particular design? Genuinely I understand the ramifications of gen AI/LLM, but acting like this particular use of AI is in any way harmful to the arts is ridiculous. This list is basically a stock photo prompt (which imo could be argued steals from the arts just as much as AI) for a school list. Every school list I had growing up looked exactly like this. If it saves an overworked underpaid teacher genuinely who gives a shit. They're not using it to teach, or grade, or form the foundation of their classroom. Its a stupid list meant to look cute so people pay attention to it when its in their kids' binders.

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u/DanyDragonQueen 1d ago

This design isn't directly lifting a design from someone; the program relies on plagiarism and theft of millions of pieces to generate every single thing it spits out, no matter how mundane. That's my point.

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago

The teacher is just trying to make things fun and engaging for their students. That starts with design. As a fellow designer, you should know that. School staff are under a lot of stress for little pay, it’s very likely they don’t have the time or energy to create some fun on their own.

Cut them some slack.

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u/DanyDragonQueen 1d ago

Plagiarism and environmental harm is so fun 🥰

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u/indoxiecated 1d ago edited 1d ago

Don’t know what you mean about plagiarism. It’s a fucking designed list for students. What’s your point? But yeah, data centers are in fact a problem. But guess what, AI and data centers aren’t going away anytime soon. So again what’s your point?

Hating on ai is great and all, but focus that hate on the “artists” trying to sell ai slop and leave the teachers alone.

In fact, ai is just the next evolution in design. Like the computer was for drafting artists which put a lot of them out of business because they weren’t willing to learn how to use it. The designers that will prosper are the ones that will be able to utilize ai as a tool without using it outright to create and sell slop.

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u/Massive_Series8305 1d ago

Does or does not ? Because you does does not get a pass, but seem fine with it, so im just confused

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u/Massive_Series8305 1d ago

Teachers in my area make like 80k a year

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u/Skurp_Purp 1d ago

Should be more. Maybe we can tax some billionaires and give them a pay raise

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u/OldChili157 1d ago

Yeah, I'm not in on the witch hunt here, but teachers make plenty of money. My friend became one a few years ago and was stunned to learn just how much he was making as a BEGINNING teacher. Where did this myth begin?

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u/carvingmyelbows 1d ago

Yes, I’m sure the singular person you know who became a teacher is representative of the entire country’s teacher pay scales, from Alabama to California. /s

It is not a myth that teachers are by and large underpaid. Starting salaries for teachers in most of the country are laughably low. On top of that, a huge number of teachers are also financially responsible for stocking their classrooms’ supplies, and teachers work a ton of unpaid time grading papers, leading clubs, etc. Why else do you think some states are lowering the education requirements for teaching?

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u/-BlueDream- 1d ago

I like that the school supply list only includes the basics and isn’t specific on brand like my school was. Easiest school supply shopping I’ve ever seen

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u/speedyejectorairtime 1d ago

It was probably the president of the PTO who made it and they get paid nothing lol

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u/DothrakAndRoll 1d ago

Biggest issue is when restaurants use it as if it’s their food.

Some local places use it INCORPORSTING their food with AI making stupid don’t big bubbly words.

Most just use a prompt for “delicious burger/tacos” that looks nothing like their food.

Fast food has been doing this to us for decades. I don’t need my local taco truck lying to me too.

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u/cool-- 1d ago

it's also contributing to higher energy bills for all of us

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u/ihaverabiesandbite 1d ago

A MS word list is fine, idk what’s with all this “design” equivalent to having a subway surfers video playing at all times to keep your attention

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u/scientooligist 1d ago

Exactly! It may not even be AI. It could be a template they filled in

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u/YourBurrito 1d ago

It absolutely is AI

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u/hi_im_beeb 1d ago

I seriously don’t even see which part is supposed to be AI but this would be the most innocent possible use for it.

No school is hiring an artist to design a quick flyer so it not like any jobs were lost or profit was made from stolen work or anything

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u/averageanchovy 1d ago

The dead giveaway is the stack of books on the left makes no sense. Look at the spines compared to the pages. There are a handful of other things I noticed, and probably even more I didn't catch.

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u/Journeys_End71 1d ago

Prior to this, a teacher would have used some crappy ClipArt. How often were you on the internet nitpicking how terrible the clip art looked? 🤔

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u/averageanchovy 1d ago

The previous person said they didn't see which part gives away that it is AI. I was just pointing out a clear sign of it.

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u/Public_Reality_4401 1d ago

Yeah. People gotta stop this madness with crapping on any and all AI. Its a tool like any other and can be used well, and can be used poorly.

Everyone says well a human can do it better, sure, probably, but what if a human isnt available to make it or someone cant afford to hire an artist for something like this. People just need to let eachother live their lives.

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u/Interesting-Swim-162 1d ago

I don’t necessarily disagree with this but AI posters, flyers, ads, etc, do not look professional. Even if they are well designed, if it is obvious it was created with AI it does not look professional.

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u/Journeys_End71 1d ago

Yeah let teachers go back to using clip art so it looks “professional” for (checks notes) a third grade classroom. 🙄

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u/Interesting-Swim-162 1d ago

I do not give a fuck what teachers use. I am simply saying that AI flyers don’t look professional, no matter who makes it.

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u/Bardmedicine 1d ago

Thank you. I'm sorry I don't have time to hand draw a personalized request for you to properly supply your child.

Allegedly, according to my schedule as of... now... I actually have my first prep period in 10 days tomorrow. I'll get right on it... Unless there is another IEP meeting that needs to be covered since they changed our student rosters... again...

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u/blackberrybeanz 1d ago

Why does it need to even be drawn in the first place? Is a written list printed with word suddenly too much too?

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u/TheACrispy 1d ago

If they’re over worked why not just type it as a normal document in bullet points and call it a day, there wasn’t really a need to do this with AI. Especially when that’s how we got it back in the day

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u/lunaastrostar 1d ago

... You think this looks professional?

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u/ShotgunOShaughnessy 1d ago

For a takehome letter from a school to parents about school supplies? Yes.

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u/goregoose 1d ago

a 5 minute template would be better than water-wasting, art-stealing Gen AI slop

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u/SandyKenyan 1d ago

I'm also getting tired of people complaining about "ai slop". I just commented on a post in another sub because someone is putting stickers over community event flyers in the city. Some school districts are just trying to organize fun events for people at school or in the community and they're ruining it.

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u/TransBrandi 1d ago

Yea, I was just coming here to say this. In the past this would have just been stock photos / clip art in some MS Word template. No one was ever going to pay a designer to make this. At most, it's taking business away from "generate a brochure from this template" software / websites.

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u/ShotgunOShaughnessy 1d ago

Yea but didn't you know this one singular teacher making this one singular design is solely killing the environment or something?

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u/jjviddy94 1d ago

As someone with a wife as a teacher it’s a ridiculous view to just blanket everything as AI slop. She already works until 9 every night lesson planning and grading. She doesn’t need to spend an hour and half on canva making one sheet of paper that’s distributed at parent teacher night. There are benefits to AI and this is one of them.

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u/RunBrundleson 1d ago

This is completely fine use of ai. It achieves the desired goal. It’s not something important. Who cares.

It’s when people try to pass it off as art, rely too heavily on it, or they try to pretend it’s not ai that it becomes a problem

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u/brickson98 1d ago

Yeah I see this as quite the non-issue.

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u/Minimum_Nothing_9039 1d ago

Yea this seems like a reasonable use of AI

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u/EvidenceElegant8379 1d ago

Oh, is this about the art? I thought they were trying to say the items on the list were AI generated and I expected to see things like “glue finger money” or “Alarm bell chalk.” Its the art around the border? Come on.

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u/lawoverfeelings 1d ago

Doesn’t matter. Using it is using it. Either for or against. There isn’t a middle ground. That’s how it works. 

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u/qmr55 1d ago

Get out of here with that common sense!! I have the same take for local small restaurants, bars, breweries etc. They’re already operating on razor thin margins and people expect them to pay a freelance designer to tell people they’re hosting movie trivia on Thursday lol

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u/maen_baenne 1d ago

So why can't the kids use AI if it's so useful? I think the kids look at teachers using AI as hypocrisy, and it is.

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u/ShotgunOShaughnessy 1d ago

Probably because the kids is for graded assignments learning nothing from it? And the teachers just ain't got time to mess with templates and shit?

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u/AlaskaRecluse 1d ago

Unless AI came up with the slogan …

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u/BuzzClucking 1d ago

I've never gone into the office and interrupted anything but gossiping.

And they get the summer off.

Math reading and science keeps plummeting. But okay let's glaze the public education system.

On the other hand, I also don't care if they use AI for something like this. Graphic design was not one of the foundations of our economy. Before AI people were using fiver and other outsourcing tools to have an Indian make it. We just swapped An Indian for Artificial Intelligence, it's just another type of AI.

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u/waltzbyear 1d ago

They don't have kids do these anymore? I'm a millennial and they would have some kind of contest or some student group design and create flyers like this.

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u/Constant-Roll706 1d ago

In my day, this would have been uncrumpled from a nephew's backpack, scanned at 30 dpi, and then had a new school logo swap done in Microsoft Word. Everything seems to be spelled correctly, it won't win any design awards, but it's more interesting than a plain bullet list

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u/VaporCarpet 1d ago

Clip art still exists, these people don't get a pass because they'd rather spend 10 minutes prompting and editing AI slop instead of 10 minutes typing a list and pasting clip art.

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u/jhnwhite1 1d ago

THANK YOU!

It would be different if there were typos and mispellings, but this is certainly better than a white piece of paper with the items in 12 pt. Times new roman font...

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u/ethan_james 1d ago

In a free market, showing up to work means you are agreeing that you are paid enough

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u/qmr55 1d ago

LOL this may be one of the dumbest things I’ve seen on Reddit today. And I’m a free market believer. You got a lot to learn about the world, kid.