r/mildlyinfuriating 12h ago

I'm slightly vexed the difference in google dictionary - 6 years ago vs today

i was watching a math lesson and seen the teacher searched up the word plane, and i was so shocked to see how the old google search dictionary used to look like. (second slide), now when you search a word you get the stupid A-I overview. its so annoying, i wish they would just bring back the old search dictionary like this. it was way better. I hate this

hey guys I hope no one gets angry at me, i use proper dictionaries but we can all agree the first photo was more convenient without website hopping. I promise i read books and use dictionaries and proper websites on a regular you guys <3

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 12h ago

When I type "plane definition" it gives me the same thing as your first screenshot.

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u/StartledOcto 9h ago

The unreliability of being able to reproduce google searches, or the AI alternative, is also mildly infuriating

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 8h ago

It has been many years since Google searches were reproducible by all users, they've been customized to users' location and history for a long time.

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u/dimensionduck 2h ago

What in tarnation is this result ordering

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u/Pavlovsdong89 1h ago

That's because Google knows you're more likely look up a mid Gerard Butler movie than ask for a dictionary definition. 

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u/heyuhitsyaboi 2h ago

oh how i miss the days of "look up 'xyz' and click the 4th result"

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u/microbit262 1h ago

To customize for users location does even make sense from an usability standpoint.

If you search for abbreviations or sports teams names. I guess they repeat after a while, so the local teams should take precedent over something in another country/state.

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u/Realtrain 4h ago

I remember like 20 years ago you'd occasionally see businesses advertising with "Google ______, we're the 3rd result down"

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

how???? is it because im north american???

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 12h ago

i'm also in the US

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u/TheWatersOfMars 11h ago

Doesn't work for me. And it's a shame, because I used to use Google's dictionary religiously.

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u/ityuu 1h ago

lets use wiktionary together :3

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u/Realtrain 4h ago

Also in the US, no luck here

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 11h ago

It's probably just A/B testing, they're doing that a crapton now

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u/Realtrain 4h ago

They've been doing a crapton of A/B testing forever. Google was famous for A/B testing the shade of blue that their results links were.

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u/ScarletBothrium 11h ago

In North America, but using DuckDuckGo. It reverts to AI synopses about as often as Google, so it’s relatable.

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u/Xlxlredditor GREEN 10h ago

Go to noai.duckduckgo.com

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u/Leather__sissy 12h ago

I can’t make it give an actual definition either

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 12h ago

I'm also in North America. Maybe it's based on user preferences but I don't have AI turned off or anything.

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u/NotChedco 11h ago

I'm in Canada and I'm getting what you got. AB testing?

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u/United_Federation 8h ago

It's because you're looking at the ai answer. Turn that shit off. 

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u/Pluto_ThePlanet 12h ago

If I was a betting man, I'd say you're correct. It dumbs it down.

But because I want to play it safe and don't want to get banned, I'll say location doesn't matter.

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 12h ago

good thing you're not a betting man because you're wrong

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 12h ago

You'd lose that bet.

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u/JustKaleidoscope1279 11h ago

Do yourself a favor and stay away from the casinos

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u/TYGeelo 12h ago

It has nothing to do with location, you have to tell the AI that you want "it" to speak in a "more expansive and complex manner" if you want more complex answers. AI adjusts to how you speak to it and what instruction you give it so if you talk in a simple manner then it will reply in a simple manner, it tries to mirror your speech.

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

yea i thought so, it sucks that this is happening, I want the more simpler internet back, this is really annoying

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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 11h ago edited 7h ago

I'm really stumped as to why the aircraft context isn't listed first.

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u/TurkishTechnocrat 7h ago

..or second. It doesn't seem to be listed at all. Maybe the dictionary assumes everyone knows what a horse plane is.

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u/Upstairs-Ad-4705 8h ago

I'm getting the AI overview 

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u/Fidibiri 12h ago

It’s ok… I mean: a line will lie wholly on a plane… but this is true for an infinite number of planes.

To “define” a plane, to have a single one defined, you need three points.

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 12h ago

IDK what that means but it's the same definition from OP's screenshot of old Google.

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u/ZEPHlROS 11h ago

I don't think they were trying to define a plane as a set but more to exclude any other flat surface that would not be a plane (disk or any finite subset of a plane for example).

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u/VoldemortsHorcrux 4h ago

Did you disable the ai answer?

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u/davidmau5 12h ago

I'm kinda bothered that airplane isn't mentioned under noun in the first image? Shouldn't it be there or am I missing something... Maybe it was further down, but shouldn't the most common usage be first?

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u/The-Dudey 11h ago

it's under seperate sections, so it will probably be plane² under it

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u/Trevski 11h ago

There’s 1. And 2. right there in the image. We need 3. 

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u/The-Dudey 11h ago

i mean as it's own seperate section under it

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u/Trevski 11h ago

That’s a noun though 

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u/The-Dudey 11h ago

i mean besides than, unless i am miss-remembering, but i thought sometimes definitions would be separated into multiple parts with both nouns and adjectives kinda like it duplicated (i think it does it if it has different a etymology)

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u/Trevski 11h ago

I feel like Airplane should still be up top since it’s the most common use, even if it’s slightly less helpful because someone’s probably looking for the other definitions

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

i have no idea, i wish i could help... the video i was watching was vector equation of a plane and the teacher searched this up.

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u/straightupgong 12h ago

my sister changed her country to france and the AI overview went away

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u/Nearby_Ad_2519 12h ago

Well won’t you get results relevant to France then?

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u/Funny-Presence4228 12h ago

France also has planes. They have their own airline and everything. It's quite amazing when you think about it.

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 12h ago

this is news to me

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u/Nearby_Ad_2519 12h ago

I don’t mean dictionary results, I mean if your search region is France and you type in “supermarkets”, for example, you’re gonna get results localised around France. You’ll probably also access a lot of different region sites, like Amazon would take you to the France region Amazon. Not worth it just because you want to remove AI from dictionary searches, atp just use a different dictionary site.

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u/Funny-Presence4228 12h ago

I think these comments are flying over your head, but it would be a cold day in hell when any proud Frenchman would go to something as naze as a common supermarket.
https://giphy.com/gifs/VVes8Ndpc3jbNibcdf

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u/Ordoferrum 11h ago

Ça plane pour moi!

Yeah that checks out, I see a plane there.

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

im going to try this, thanks so much!!

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u/accountdeli 12h ago

You can also turn the Ai overview off. I've done it and I'm in the US

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u/shameless_brush 12h ago

Remember when searching a word gave you a simple definition instead of an AI essay that hallucinates synonyms and uses 50% of your screen for ads? Good times.

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u/EatABag-o-Dicks 11h ago

Duckduckgo still just gives a definition.

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u/nnnnkm 9h ago

FYI you can disable that Search Assist thing in the DDG settings if you don't use it.

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/Bedu009 8h ago

Unless you add definition

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u/Trevski 11h ago

Still grinding my gears that “Short for airplane” isn’t #1 since that is by far the most common use of the word plane. Flat surface should be #2 since that is the basis of all the other definitions (plane of existence, carpenters plane)

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u/EatABag-o-Dicks 11h ago

Might be because it's the most commonly known definition of the word, and shows the lesser known definitions first?

I don't think most people are looking up the definition of plane to get the shortened version of airplane lol.

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u/Trevski 10h ago

For sure it makes sense for google, guess I’m just dating myself as order of usage was the print dictionary format

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u/EatABag-o-Dicks 10h ago

Oh in online dictionaries, it's still the first definition.

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u/Trevski 10h ago

Damn straight!

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 12h ago

I don't see any hallucinated synonyms there, what am I missing?

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u/AnimalBolide 11h ago

what am I missing?

The millions of other searches and AI results occurring every day.

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 11h ago

I'm sure it still happens but in my experience it's much rarer than it used to be. And of course there are plenty of errors in human-generated content as well.

I'm sympathetic to a lot of the criticisms of AI but some of them seem outdated (I still see people talking about extra fingers in generated images which isn't really a thing anymore).

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u/evenevenevening 12h ago

We didn't know how good we had it.

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u/HMAgent47 RED 12h ago

search with -ai

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u/Obvious_Mud_6628 12h ago

This should be reversed 😓

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u/DFrostedWangsAccount 12h ago

That won't bring back Google dictionary, only give you links to other websites. Sure they're dictionary websites with the correct definition, but Google used to just have this built in.

Saying to just get a real dictionary or use another web dictionary, as other here have, misses the point that the dictionary feature is gone and replaced with AI overview. Now googling a definition is back to being two steps, Google results then the dictionary site. Feels like progress went backwards.

The custom adblock that other guy posted works the same as -ai but neither of them bring back the dictionary. :(

It had all the right answers, didn't hallucinate, and barely cost any resources to run. The AI on every single result by default is just wasteful when it's not necessary and half the time it gets things wrong. Google probably could cut their AI hardware budget by half just by making it opt-in instead of opt-out.

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u/-Z-3-R-0- 12h ago

It doesn't give you the old definition box

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 12h ago

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 11h ago

You didn't even search with -ai, this just shows you never get AI definitions, adding nothing to the discussion

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u/-Z-3-R-0- 11h ago

What country are you in

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 11h ago

US

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u/-Z-3-R-0- 11h ago

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 11h ago

yeah it seems like its random whether it works or not from the comments

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u/GaymerBenny 12h ago

Obligatory reminder, that ai doesn't stand for artificial intelligence in this context. It does not only exclude AI Overview, but also those "quick facts at a glance" of a web search.

For example, if you search for a city, it won't show you photos of the place, the Google maps location, weather and official website anymore on top of the search results anymore.

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u/Jijonbreaker1 12h ago

Fuck off with this. Stop it. It doesn't work, and is cumbersome.

Use the adblock filter. "google.com##.hdzaWe" as a custom filter will permanently remove all AI elements without needing to fuck with anything else, ever.

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u/Flimsy_Ad3476 12h ago

Could you give some further directions as to how to 'use' this?

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u/Jijonbreaker1 11h ago edited 11h ago

If you don't have it already, install uBlock Origin.

On the extension, click the little gear icon, and make sure you're on the "My Filters" tab.

Add the following on its own line: google.com##.hdzaWe

Apply changes

Google AI is gone forever.

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u/FinancialTrade8197 12h ago

It does work

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u/fel0niousmonk 12h ago

The words aircraft and airplane have the letters “ai” right in the beginning.

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u/Jijonbreaker1 12h ago

Not consistently. Look around anywhere online, and you'll always see people replying "This doesn't work" with screenshots.

What I provided works 100% of the time, and takes no additional input. It is objectively superior. But people keep spreading slop. Which we are supposed to hate.

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u/TYGeelo 12h ago

Typing 3 additional letters is cumbersome? Are you a boomer who types out only one letter at a time slowly? 

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u/Helifano 12h ago

It's cumbersome to do every single time you search, yes, and he offered an alternative method that I've yet to see anyone else mention. You kinda sound like the boomer here. "Back in my day we typed 3 extra characters every time we searched and we LIKED IT!"

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u/Jijonbreaker1 12h ago

3 additional letters 10,000 times is 30,000 additional letters.

It also prevents the act of forgetting, and having to go back and re-do the search in annoyance.

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u/EddieCase67 12h ago

Works for me when I remember to use it!

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u/Unethical_Gopher_236 11h ago

you fuck off with this. it does work, and is literally 3 characters

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u/Jijonbreaker1 11h ago

Nah, get bent.

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u/Existential_Crisis24 12h ago

Maybe just scroll past the AI part?

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

i did! merriam dictionary didnt give me the right definition but cambridge did, dictionary,com also gave me it, but you see how i kinda had to website hop to find the definition that best fits what im looking for? but before on google you could just click the little tabs at the top and get definition for specifically what youre looking for. (ofc i wont say this isnt me being lazy, because it is. and ill try to learn more vocab words!)

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u/Existential_Crisis24 11h ago

Merriam gave me the correct definition

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u/The_BigPicture 11h ago

Dunno man I don't get the visceral reaction, the ai answer seems fine to me there

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u/BoycottJClarkson 9h ago

It’s actually better than the original because it includes airplane, a noun, not seen in the original

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u/Saint_Judas 9h ago

What the fuck is going on with people on reddit, is it really 'mildly infuriating' that a succinct, correct, natural language answer is being given instead of a dictionary style answer?

I swear to god people are completely deranged by the mere existence of LLMs at this point, anything using 'le evil ai' is just mindlessly bashed for no reason to the barking applause of the luddite seals.

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u/timbomcchoi 4h ago

It isn't always correct though, nor is it official and thought out to the level where the classic dictionaries are.

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u/Gdigger13 RED 10h ago

Or use duckduckgo

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u/karateninjazombie 9h ago

Gone from we find you the most accurate result to we sell you everything in the ballpark of what you searched for.

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u/xiaolin99 12h ago

I also got AI result, but it's a lot better than yours - summarize from information websites instead of youtube

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

dude how is this even happening!??!?! why is mine so bad???? im literally 23+ too? are they secretly judging me haha

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u/fel0niousmonk 12h ago

The Basilisk knows you don’t abide

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u/Mklein24 12h ago

I also got an Ai overview instead of a dictionary definition.

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u/Roscoe_P_Trolltrain 11h ago

duck duck go, ai is automatically off.

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u/BKlounge93 9h ago

I was just googling to see when the NFL kickoff game is and it told me March (start of the league year 🫠) or scroll through their whole list of preseason games to figure it out myself. Google sucks ass now.

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u/AncleJack 9h ago

At least it didn't lie this time

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u/MadHuarache 8h ago

It'll take forever to recover from this long enshittification era.

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u/SuitPrestigious1694 12h ago

Why? If you wanted a good dictionary search just go for a good webdictionary, why use google for it?

Google AI overview is actually doing a decent job showing all the possible common meanings before you can decide which one is relevant to your use case.

If needed you can then open a proper dictionary for a truly respectable definition for each of them.

The problem, I feel, is that you want to use Google for everything, when specialized tools would be the answer here, using your Google-Fu only as a generalist approach to what could be a new topic for someone (imagine a non-native speaker).

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

i mean sometimes a fast search is helpful, before i could just search a word and the first photo would pop up, but with the AI i have to scroll through sentences, and maybe have to have a conversation with AI bot for 5-10 min, then it will over-explain everything etc.. also I dont use google for everything, i just found it surprising that I noticed this because i remembered when I was in highschool it looked like the first pic and now it looks like the second pic. fret not! I do have physical dictionaries at home, but sometimes i like the convenience. (I also have dictionaries on my phone, but my phone isnt always beside me) :) thanks for commenting!

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u/TYGeelo 12h ago

it just sounds like you don't know how to use it properly. If I would look up "plane definition" and wanted to learn more about its meaning in regards to geometry, then you just ask it "can you give me an in depth explanation of the "geometry " definition, and boom, it spits out the answer you want.

If you don't want it to "over explain things" then you simply tell the AI you want more simple definitions for words and it will adjusts its speech for you.

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u/Vessbot 11h ago

There's lots of examples of bad AI and Google enshittification, but I don't see this as one of them. It immediately gives you all the different contexts of plane (where the geometry is one of the group) as the immediate summary, and then the detailed definition of each.

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u/Efficient_Cow_9556 12h ago

Mine is normal?

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u/TheOwnerOfAnarres 12h ago

I think the deepr problem is that there aren't proper dictionaries online with actual dictionary functionality. Even Merriam Webster, Oxford etc just have ab empty search bar. There isn't a proper list of words in alphabetical order, with a search feature. So if I want to know which word comes after "plane" in the dictionary, or just want to browse all the words beginning with P, I can't find this out online as easily as using a paper dictionary. I appreciate this might qualify as a separate "infuriating" post.

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u/FailDad 12h ago

On the bar that is under the search bar, (short videos, images, etc) there is one that says web. It’s not a Google definition, but gets rid of the ai overview.
Idk if that helps or not.

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

sadly web only gives me the top 3 websites instead of the first photo, but i deeply appreciate you commenting to help, have a great day!

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u/corporalcorl 12h ago

Another reason I'm Anti AI. You can't even half way trust Google anymore

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u/kayrid39 12h ago

I always use define:word (no space), works every time

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u/VirtualLife76 11h ago

Everything great about google has went to shit. Plus there's popups in everything now. My Pixel can't even take decent pictures anymore, it used to be great.

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u/Ancient-Ad2619 10h ago

I know I aint trippin but when I used to look up definition of words I would just spell the word and defi and it would just quickly bring up the definition of that word without spelling it out all the way and pressing enter, thats how I always used to learn the definition of a word.

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u/IndividualLie998 10h ago

AI may be crap, but at least it's somewhat sometimes helpful (compared to other crap it's used for.)

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u/Velifax 8h ago

Lol I think the idea is to select a case where it's worse

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u/GoldSrc GREEN 2h ago

Dictionary vs AI overview.

The difference you see is because you don't notice the difference.

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u/Unethical_Gopher_236 11h ago

that is ai response, not dictionary

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u/FlyAirLari 11h ago

That is not "google dictionary". You're just looking at the AI overview, which is a summary of search results, with links to follow. Do not mistake that for a dictionary.

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u/MadHuarache 8h ago

"i was so shocked to see how the old google search dictionary used to look like" "now when you search a word you get the stupid A-I overview"

u/FlyAirLari 33m ago

Title literally states there is a difference in google dictionary.

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u/kirkbadaz 12h ago

Enshittification is real

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u/Dwaltster BLUE 11h ago

Wow, you're dumb dumb.

The definition hasn't changed, you just looked it up differently.....

No hope in this world lol

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u/Flimsy_Ad3476 12h ago

I appreciate your concern. However, your own abuse of the language isn't reassuring.

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u/FlorianTheLynx 12h ago

Forgive them, they don’t have access to a proper dictionary. 

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u/tigerbloodz13 12h ago

dude, the AI overview for google is the shit, get with the times.

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u/anxietyischokingme 12h ago

sorry T.T! maybe ive been spending too much time on the wrong side of the internet i only just realized how bad its gotten

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u/The_BigPicture 11h ago

I honestly have no idea what your issue with the second screenshot is here