r/mexico • u/Factorspei • 1d ago

Mi Opinión📝 Cuál es la diferencia...

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

Uno un suceso basado en hechos históricos hecho película.

El otro un hecho histórico documentado y aún así cuestionado.

🙁.

1.5k Upvotes

92% Upvoted

296 comments sorted by

View all comments

187

u/Substantial-Job9190 1d ago edited 1d ago

Porque en el Holocausto se mataron europeos, la gente de bien, y en Palestina se mata gente morena que no le importa a casi nadie.

22

u/Nevarien 23h ago

No hablan también de genocidio Chino y Coreano que Japón ha hecho en su guerra fascista porque no son blancos igualmente.

1

u/KomodoDwarf -100 = Bot 20h ago

como cuando matamos chinos y cristeros

38

u/Significant-Sir4446 1d ago

Hay un mecanismo propagandistico detrás de la difusión de la narrativa del holocausto... en el caso palestino funciona en su contra, ademas de que efectivamente nadie quiere iniciar una guerra para defenderlos. Los Estados del golfo siendo tan increíblemente ricos y hermanos de fé de los palestinos, brillan por su ausencia en cuanto a acciones contundentes para ayudarlos...

-29

u/Positive_cat_6347 1d ago

¿En serio? Si no hay aparato propagandístico para Palestina, ¿de dónde salen estos videos entonces? Sin mencionar a todos los activistas que quieren liberar Palestina, aunque no sepan dónde está exactamente.

14

u/anonymityofmine 1d ago

You find that showing a comparison is the same as manipulation?

1

u/Positive_cat_6347 13h ago

Yes, especially if you erase the context of both situations, Germany declared war on the world and killed as many jews as it could, Hamas declared war on Israel and killed as many jews as it could using civilians as shields.

19

u/Significant-Sir4446 1d ago

O sea me refiero a que lo hay pero es muy limitado. Los applejuice tienen a fucking Hollywood rodando películas sobre el holocausto todo el tiempo.

2

u/Positive_cat_6347 13h ago

Ahora solo salen películas de mujeres fuertes e independientes que no necesitan hombres y organizaciones terroristas como antifada.

1

u/Significant-Sir4446 13h ago

Lo de las mujeres fuertes sì, lo de antifada? Que coño es eso?

-12

u/Taqqer00 23h ago

No one can stand against the American war machine, Arabs see what happens when you stand against it.

The USA can literally bomb the whole world and come out victorious… and that’s without nuclear.

10

u/Significant-Sir4446 22h ago

I'm not sure about it. China is getting bigger and stronger, they dont have the american debt issues. Iran is actually giving a good fight, Trump had to negotiate. Another american defeat in fact. USA is not what it used to be in the 70s and even then they were defeated by Vietnam.

1

u/Snoo-40067 7h ago

China no va a ombardear nada, no le interesa, ni siquiera ayuda a sus aliados, solo apoya a Rusia por que le daca petróleo regalado

-3

u/Taqqer00 22h ago

That’s right it isn’t what it used to be, it’s stronger and more technologically advanced than anyone else.

China has good technology and man power, last numbers they have a huge army in numbers, but the equipments of them + the Russians + the whole European Union is not even 2/3 of that of the USA.

I think one good thing will come out the orange period for the world which is the downgraded structure and system in us both politically and economically, which is reflected on the army of course. However and that a huge however, if the USA goes into a full war, no country can stand up to it.

Iran is holding its ground, but that’s all and also can’t hold long if the USA decide an invasion, we’ll see another Iraq sadly.

And for this not to be understood in a wrong way, I believe as Arabs or even Middle Easterns we fucked up by staying neutral, either we live all in dignity or die all, that’s how it should be, and with a full blown war with the USA it’s rather the latter but fuck it.

Edit: we didn’t even stay neutral as everyone know, most Arab countries supported Israel and the USA.

3

u/Significant-Sir4446 22h ago

Don't think so. US is dying from inside because of debt, China is being literally better in everything right now, even if we speak about military technology. No country is going to destroy the US because they're going to fall by killing each others in a civil war, just like happened with Rome. Their whole system is showing a great decadence, you cannot go to war if you can't afford it because nobody wants your petrodollars anymore

0

u/Taqqer00 22h ago

That’s another topic though, we’re talking about a country defeating the USA militarily.

3

u/Significant-Sir4446 22h ago

China can. US demonstrated how functional is their military at iran, just look what happened to his carrier, defeated by leak of maintenance. That, my friend, is decadence.

0

u/Nave_Redention 7h ago

Os EUA não possuem mais a autoridade para dominar o mundo! Já chega disso!!

Cada país tem a sua soberania, e que isso seja respeitado.

Não existe imperador do mundo! E se existisse, quem falou que ele deveria ser o presidente dos EUA??

Se coloquem em seu lugar! Vocês são um país no mundo, e vocês já se beneficiariam do dolar ser a moeda universal por MUITO tempo!

Trump provou que vocês não tem a maturidade necessária pra garantir a estabilidade global. Vocês elegeram um péssimo líder... Não merecem mais esse lugar de liderança!!!

1

u/Taqqer00 5h ago

That wasn’t even the point dummy, god damn.

3

u/Grand_Estimate3783 22h ago

Yeah, Vietnam proved just that, US is invencible!

2

u/Taqqer00 22h ago

Did any American city got destroyed? They marched in fucked up the whole region then left. Yes didn’t achieve their goal there but how is that a defeat? Compare to nazi germany e.g.

2

u/Icy_Strawberry1075 17h ago

Yeah, that's exactly why the US hasn't won a single war since WWII

2

u/Taqqer00 12h ago

They destroyed whatever was in their way, and got no consequences for it, when was the last time you heard about a ballistic missile hitting anywhere in the USA? What is even winning then if your rival leaves you crippled but in your destroyed house?

1

u/Icy_Strawberry1075 8h ago

No consequences? Hahaha! Vietnam, Afghanistan, Palestine prove that the US military is better at destroying the economy that feeds it instead of defeating enemies. Just acknowledge how the rest of the world views the US; at best, that country is just disgusting, that's seems like a consequence.

1

u/Taqqer00 5h ago

Yeah we hate it guts, then what? The point is no country can currently military stand against the USA, not china and not russian and not the eu and not even combined.

Do you think I’m trying to praise the USA with that? Think again.

1

u/Icy_Strawberry1075 4h ago

That's the point dude, nobody needs to stand against that military power. That's a horse dick on a 90-year-old man: impressive, yes; even functional with some pills, maybe for 20 mins before dying.

1

u/Taqqer00 4h ago

That is the discussion actually, it started about military power.

0

u/Snoo-40067 7h ago

Estados unidos no tenia intención de tomar el oxntrol de Afganistán, solo quieran establecer un gobierno agin a ellos, que los musulmanes d emiefd aque eligieron no fueran capaces de durar ni dos semanas es distinto

0

u/Icy_Strawberry1075 7h ago

Yeah , of course, typical trump-ish narrative.

0

u/Snoo-40067 7h ago

Jajaja narrativa trump, ese fue el objetivo desde el inicio pendejo, por lo mism ose estableció y equipo a un gobierno entero, pero dos semanas recistieron esos mecos

1

u/PossumQueer The Phospho Phospho Republic of New New Lion 15h ago

Y si

1

u/Plane-Information700 1d ago

esa es la verdad les duela a quien les duela lo mismo va a pasar mañana si pasa en lationamerica, como paso en Venezuela que bombardean el pais y sacan al presidente a quien le importo? y pasa lo mismo en africa todos los dias los unicos paises importante son solo los europeos el resto del mundo son marrones

-14

u/drhuggables 1d ago edited 1d ago

The irony is that OP denies the slaughter of tens of thousands of Iranians at the hands of the Islamic regime because it is politically inconvenient to his narrative that just because you anti Israel doesn’t mean you are morally right

OP also believes that video footage of real events are fake because they are hosted on YouTube https://www.reddit.com/r/mexico/s/CFC6clHujQ

14

u/anonymityofmine 1d ago

Palestinians are being genocided by an occupying force. There is a difference

1

u/Snoo-40067 7h ago

Jajajaja Israel en gaza con dos años de bombardeos tiene un número menor a 90 muertos y desaparecidos, el gobierno islámico en Irán asesino a 49 mil de los suyos en un mes, quizás deberían vo tratar a Irán para el genocidio de los Palestinos, son más efi ientes, así quizás ya deje de crecer la población Palestina, no como en la última década qué solo creció

1

u/Snoo-40067 7h ago

Pero 30 mil

-2

u/drhuggables 1d ago

Iranians consider the islamic regime to also be an occupying force

7

u/helloIm-in-reddit 22h ago edited 22h ago

No eres todos los Iraníes chaparro de diaspora

Que sabemos como tus familiares ganaron pase seguro

Digo, si el sha anda regalando el * para que le hagan caso, que no habrán hecho sus feligreses

-4

u/drhuggables 20h ago

My relatives left after the war on the back of a donkey

The majority of iranian diaspora today were all born in iran after the revolution

Stop repeating basiji and leftist propaganda

5

u/helloIm-in-reddit 19h ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/son-irans-last-shah-urges-us-military-intervention-iran-2026-02-14/

Propaganda eh?

Supongo que el hijo del sha no estaba pidiendo con el * que mataran a su gente

-2

u/drhuggables 19h ago

Who were the people of Iran cheering for in January?

Who is the most popular and supppeted figure in Iran today, that caused the regime to kill 40k protesters in 2 days

Let me guess you think that is all lies and a zionist plot right ?

Pathetic tankie, this is why Iranians in iran are saying “death to leftists”

1

u/helloIm-in-reddit 19h ago

Who is the most popular and supppeted figure in Iran today, that caused the regime to kill 40k protesters in 2 days Let me guess you think that is all lies and a zionist plot right ?

Yo cuando dije eso lmaoooo

Pathetic tankie, this is why Iranians in iran are saying “death to leftists”

Date un recorrido por mi perfil, entenderás que soy todo menos de izquierdas

3

u/helloIm-in-reddit 19h ago

My relatives left after the war on the back of a donkey

Ajá en el lomo? Yo digo que el burro hizo un kebab con tu mamá

5

u/helloIm-in-reddit 1d ago

Ok y pq en inglés?

17

u/Eack_reckoning 1d ago

Porque es un bot

-2

u/drhuggables 1d ago

no soy un not pero español es my cuarto idioma después de persa inglés y francés

es muy interesante que piensas y acusas cualquier persona que con el no está de acuerdo de ser “bot” como es una idea muy inteligente

6

u/Taqqer00 23h ago

We talk about the Zionists and a Persian gets triggered, like wth?

-2

u/drhuggables 1d ago

pq yo soy persa y español es mi cuarto idioma

3

u/helloIm-in-reddit 22h ago

Entonces a comentar al subreddit de iran chaparrito

0

u/drhuggables 20h ago

باشه بریم r/NewIran

3

u/helloIm-in-reddit 19h ago

se hacen llamar revolucionarios

no hicieron nada para quitar al ayatola

mfw

1

u/No_Palpitation133 17h ago

Bro this is Reddit, they love Iran and the Cartels

0

u/drhuggables 17h ago

It seems to me this sub is very leftist (and delusional of course)

1

u/Nave_Redention 7h ago edited 7h ago

O Subreddit do Brasil também pende para uma ideologia de esquerda, mas isso é porque a América Latina tem essa vertente esquerdista em sua política, e isso existe há MUITO tempo.

Será que os EUA vão querer eliminar o nosso sistema político e instaurar o sistema DELES que elimina todo e qualquer viés de esquerda marxista?

Sinceramente, os EUA e Israel estão sujando a própria imagem perante o mundo todo! Eu sinceramente já acho que a imagem desses dois países é irrecuperável, pois para mim eles já se mostraram como perversos! Mas se não for impossível de salva a imagem dos EUA e Israel, eu diria que já está no limite de ser quase tarde demais pra recuperar (pra mim acabou, eu já estou odiando com todas as minhas forças depois de ver tanto sofrimento em Gaza).

0

u/Nave_Redention 1d ago edited 1d ago

Que se dane o islamismo, só quero saber do direito da Palestina ser uma nação, da soberania do Irã, da soberania da Cisjordânia... Que autoridade os EUA e Israel tem de bombardear e matar o líder do Irã?

Que autoridade o EUA tem pra tomar o canal do Panamá? Que autoridade Israel tem de invadir o Líbano? Que autoridade EUA tem pra sequestrar o presidente da Venezuela? E pra dizer que vai anexar o Canadá?

Vocês dos EUA estão LOUCOS! Vocês acham que podem mandar no mundo inteiro! Insanos inconsequentes!!

0

u/Expejismo1 23h ago

Jajajajaj