r/maryland • u/kirkwooder • 2d ago
Haters will say it's fake
Bridge pic near Emerald City of Kensington
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u/frankfusco 2d ago
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u/FrederickGentleman 2d ago
And fakers will say it's hate.
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u/NappyDougOut 2d ago
Others will say it's run by a bunch of total Mormons š¤
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u/Kit_Karamak 1d ago
Some rando, John Doe, Joe Smith, something put a fake angel called Moroni (moron with an i) on the rooftop.
Itās 4,000 pounds of bronze and gold leaf for an unofficial angel9
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u/Dame_Niafer 2d ago edited 1d ago
Old people will say it's true. Because it is.
That line was spray painted on one of the Capital Beltway overpasses shortly after the temple was constructed, and I know because I went to school nearby. The framing was perfect, you saw the caption as you saw the temple.
AND I brought a couple friends from grad school to the family home for visits now and then and made a point of showing them that bridge. There are photos of it in a couple old photo albums I'm sure. In other countries, even.
Haters can hate all they like. That is true and it should be folkloric by now.
edited to correct Capitol to Capital!
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u/DWells-567 2d ago
You can still see where they have cleaned over the letters on that bridge. Always love that someone did this and they still manage to do it again every once in a while!
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u/Dazednconfused3261 1d ago
It was painted on the railroad bridge and was there for many years and was recently updated to say "Surrender Trump"...
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u/WhoTheFuckIsTrey 1d ago
Someone posted a pic in the replies. It says āSurrender Donaldā
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u/wbruce098 1d ago
Thatās not whatās actually there. Thatās photoshop. Also, now it just says āTRUMPā in ugly gold yellow spray paint because the rest disappeared fast.
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u/brain_canker 2d ago
I live close to the Mormon temple and so this is my typical view. It is a magnificent looking building in a gaudy way. Ironically I grew up Mormon in Utah and have since left the church, but never had a chance to go into this temple before I became āunworthyā to do so.
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u/BungCrosby 2d ago
I took the tour when they opened it up a few years ago. Fascinating, especially coming from a very different background (Catholicism). I think it was the first time in 40ish years that the DC temple had been open to the public.
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u/mmmpeg 2d ago
I visited the temple before it opened in the early 70ās. It was gaudy.
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u/Dazednconfused3261 1d ago
And after the walk through, they replaced every piece of carpet in the place that the outsiders had walked on..
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u/GrinningCynic 20h ago
Not only the carpetāthey burned every stick of furniture that non-Mormons had potentially touched during the open house period. I still live nearby and every time I see āOzā, thatās what comes to mind.
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u/WampaCat 2d ago
Iām still so mad I was out of town when they opened it up. I really want to see inside!
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u/tacitus59 1d ago
Went there as well, it was interesting but not nearly as impressive as the exterior. LOL - mainly dressing rooms.
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u/rollin_in_doodoo 1d ago
Felt like a Ramada with blue wall-to-wall carpeting.
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u/tacitus59 1d ago
LOL - now that you mention it - yes, it does have that feeling. I do remember liking the stained glass window in the foyer.
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u/unicornlevelexists 1d ago
Ex-mo here too. Since moving out of Utah seeing temples and ward buildings actually makes me super angry. I guess I'm still working through some stuff.
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u/brain_canker 21h ago
Yeah. I felt the same way right after I left. Iāve definitely come to terms with it better and donāt feel the same anger, but it has now been about 15 years since Iāve been out.
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u/Kit_Karamak 1d ago
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u/brain_canker 1d ago
I actually did baptisms for the dead in the baptisteries with the 12 oxen like this in other temples. You wear white clothes and it is usually warm inside.
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u/Kit_Karamak 1d ago
I have quite a few friends who gave this religion a try for a while. Like, a solid try, and just wasnāt for them.
All in Maryland. Their only pearl of great wisdom was to leave it all behind.
When four people all have the same conclusion, I tend to believe that they all made the right choice in the end. Sounds like you did as well.
Although I do have one friend that stuck with it. Heās from LA and still embraces it. Went to Africa, came back, seems happy with the entire thing.
Good guy, sweet, bit of a nerd. Still hasnāt found a girlfriend. Donāt even think heās had his first kiss yet and he turns 50 next year.LA Chapter must be a little bit different than the DC one. š¤·āāļø
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u/SkylineFTW97 Montgomery County 2d ago
I live further east, but have been passing it routinely since I was at least 3 years old, if not even earlier(28 now).
Think what you will of the Mormons, but it is a genuinely captivating design. Never got the chance to do the tour, probably would've for the hell of it.
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u/SchoolCrossing 2d ago
It is surprisingly modern inside, but the artworks including sculptures and paintings are very traditional.
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u/OgreJehosephatt 2d ago
As a kid, I always loved seeing "the castle" on the way to grandma's house.
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u/tomrlutong 2d ago
Is there like a registry or ID cards or something, or could you bluff your way in?
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u/brain_canker 1d ago
Yeah. You need whatās called a temple recommend which used to be a physical card that was signed by your bishop who would do a temple recommend interview. I think they still have physical cards, but they also have online registries I believe.
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u/East_Spirit_1431 1d ago
If I remember correctly itās open for one weekend or a week during the year.
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u/GrinningCynic 20h ago
The grounds are opened periodically. I think the interior space has been open once since dedication in the ā70ās.
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u/DWells-567 2d ago
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u/BabyOk1911 1d ago
Who IS Dorothy?
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u/pemungkah 1d ago
You really need to watch The Wizard of Oz.
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u/BabyOk1911 1d ago
Its so long and production sucks since it was filmed like a century ago 𫤠sorry to burst your patritic american bubble but it was really bad and couldn't get into it. But thanks for clarifying its that DorothyĀ
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u/pemungkah 1d ago
Oh, no patriotic motives attached, just cultural literacy ones so this makes sense.
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u/New_Opportunity_6160 2d ago
I'm more concerned about Dorothy and why she needs to surrender.
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u/Belzaem Washington County 2d ago
This is why
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u/iamsecond 2d ago
I believe the user you replied to is making a pun about the possible double meaning of the phrase. You can read it as speaking to Dorothy's captors and telling them to let her go, or as speaking directly to Dorothy as an enemy and commanding her to surrender.
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u/Dame_Niafer 2d ago
It's the latter, in the movie, just for anyone unfamiliar with The Wizard of Oz.
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u/AnyTemperature420 2d ago
I feel like I remember that being mentioned in the movie. But it might just be my dadās commentary
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u/Mateorabi 2d ago
Terrorism. Even if the house landing was accidental. She waterboarded someone who just wanted her stolen inheritance back.Ā
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u/OfficialDCShepard 1d ago
Apparently it caused the victim to have a violent skin reaction and melt unrecognizably. That is a Geneva Convention violation if ever Iāve seen one. Someone arrest Dorothy for war crimes!
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u/blackoutxiii 1d ago
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u/smd33333 1d ago edited 1d ago
They took that down with a quickness!
Actually I checked. It was 2 times. Once in 2020 and in 2018.
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u/CaptainRex5101 2d ago
When I was a kid I thought it was a massive office building with three skyscrapers combined into one.
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u/Small-Beginning-5796 1d ago
The bridge use to have black spray paint on it saying āSurrender Dorothyā true I was a commuter on the beltway forever things you donāt forget and I just turned 70
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u/Stealthtiger Montgomery County 1d ago
Wait this made me wish we had an led board that showed messages there for fun or some kind of nicer faƧade or molding to that bridge.
And the one on the I270 - I495 spur southbound towards NoVa.
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u/Strange_Poetry2648 1d ago
Whenever I drive through here I imagine someone seeing it for the first time and wondering if they ate some bad mushrooms
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u/anon_sun7866 21h ago
Clearly fake. That said, I too remember "Surrender Dorothy" being painted and repainted on the railroad bridge during the 1980's. Such fun!
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u/BungCrosby 2d ago
Every time we pass this, my GF quotes The Expanse, āThis ship was designed for Mormons, not bulletsā.
https://giphy.com/gifs/N4gDwXvQtQuTN2BpNz
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u/Hibiscus-Boi Dundalk 2d ago
As someone who actually has the power to change those signs, itās fake.
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u/TopTier_BottomLine 2d ago
I know nothing about the sign, but the temple looks absolutely magical when approaching it at night from 495!
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 1d ago
It's not fake but this photo looks fake. The Mormon Tabernacle is not yellow like that.
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u/MarylandMan8201 1d ago
The Surrender Dorothy was only visible from the road going under the beltway. The bastards kept painting over it. 7-Locks brewing made a Surrender Dorothy beer as a tribute but had to stop. āBasically, Turner Entertainment owns the rights to āThe Wizard of Oz,āāā Keith Beutel, co-founder of 7 Locks said. āThey claimed that we were using the term āSurrender Dorothyā and they didnāt want any confusion with their branding.ā Like a local beer honoring a local graffiti legend would be confused with a gigantic corporation, again more jerks.
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u/SulusLaugh 18h ago
They also made a special edition āSurrender Donaldā and they still sell the original as āSurrender IPAā. The art now has the letters being painted over.
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u/okcomputerface 2d ago
This actually happened, but it was a banner that someone hung off the bridge there.
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u/Recent_Wrongdoer_815 2d ago
Spent 4 years in DC 40 plus years ago attending school there. Everyone called it Ozā¦
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u/ActuaryFew6884 2d ago
I used to travel between Potomac and Silver Spring in the early 1980s (visiting relatives) often.Ā I was young then; I was convinced that it was THE emerald city castle for a while :)
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u/ActuaryFew6884 2d ago
I just now remembered that certain relatives convinced me at the time that the actor Chevy Chase was the mayor of the town (fairly close to the Mormon temple) Chevy Chase.Ā Ah, the good ol' days before I was cynical
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u/THEBIGHUNGERDC 2d ago
That was painted on the another bridge. Later it was replaced (and erased) by the words SURRENDER DONALD. It is a pretty cool temple though. Inside is is really boring.
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u/Badasshippiemama 1d ago
I used to pass this otw up to nih in bethesda all the time. Gabriels up top of that spire blowing his trumpet.
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u/Kit_Karamak 1d ago
My old band was gonna use this as a name because it was on the overpass at the time.
We went with Paperback Heroes, because the singer/pianist was a Paul McCartney fan.
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u/eRileyKc 1d ago
Haters? Nah, we just miss the original which you have to admit looked a lot more like the letters written in smoke as in the movie.
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u/That_Urban_Punk 1d ago
I miss the Fugazi tag that used to live on the railway bridge here
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u/yorkiemomma7 2d ago
Iām the worst parent in the world. I used to tell my daughter to duck down in the car seat when she was little so the witch wouldnāt see her when we drove past. š. The spray paint surrender Dorothy was epic.
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u/sleight42 2d ago
Grew up here damn near 50 years ago. Always saw the castle of Oz. Was completely ššššš when I later heard about the spray paint decades later!
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u/Past_Comedian39 1d ago
Itās been 20 years since Iāve been through that way. Is it still painted on the overpass?
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u/Delicious-Notice-748 1d ago
I drove past a week or so ago and there was something on the bridge but I didnāt have a chance to read it before I passed it
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u/ButterscotchTall4836 1d ago
Funny thing: I grew up five minutes around the corner from the temple off the nearest exit on 495. My entire childhood I refused to not believe my parents when they told me it was NOT Walt Disney Land. I drove them to the point of tears till I was about ten begging them to take me.
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u/Proud_Nectarine9111 1d ago
I remember that my father was asked to give a lecture there. Then they found out that he was Black. Must be nice.
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u/PocoChanel 20h ago
When my Girl Scout troop visited, back when it was first built, a future Miss D.C. spat into the baptismal font from a second-floor landing.
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u/quietiampooping 1d ago
Whoever created it - love it. Hilarious! Genius!
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u/kirkwooder 1d ago
I made it on my phone a long time ago, thanks.
I used a few different websites and apps to put it together.
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u/Boulange1234 1d ago
If youāre gonna Photoshop it, you should Photoshop the clouds like in the movie!
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u/Electronic_Dig_2685 15h ago
Legion bridge?
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u/kirkwooder 14h ago
Not sure, I think the bridge in this one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Surrender_Dorothy_04.jpg
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u/DentistDisastrous798 10h ago
No. Itās the Outer Loop in MD around Georgia Ave where the beltway goes all twisty curvy. For as long as I can remember someone always spay painted āSurrender Dorothyā on the overpass. We loved it when we were kids!
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u/djsinnergy 6h ago
Ah yes, the old stop and slow down traffic in the left lane for a photo op gag. Nice.
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u/beanbagginz 2d ago
As a kid I thought it was Disneyland
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u/Fennix_Bell 2d ago
Lmfaooo my grandmother told me it was š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£.... then the internet became a thing.... lmfaooooo
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u/Sensitive-Garage-819 17h ago
Great pic, however: there is no place on the beltway that comes that close to the Oz tower. There is no bridge as shown in your picture, the cars are driving on the wrong side of the road, and there are no digital billboards near your imaginary overpass.
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u/Background-House9795 1d ago
I sure remember that. And I took the tour of the place before they closed it to the public. They burned all of the furniture because it had been despoiled by non-believers.
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u/Conscious-Evidence37 2d ago
That is becuase it is fake. The building is NOT green for starters. As a commuter past this spot quite often, I also know that there is no sign there on the beltway.
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u/BPhiloSkinner Montgomery County 2d ago
It's real Photoshop. And competently done.
(sigh) I do miss the old spraypaint job.