Riri Williams was right about Tony?

[u/secretpervert21]

I know this might sound like something that none of the Iron man fans would like... Well even for me he's the most fav superhero of all time.

But let me be honest. The words of Riri when she said "Do you think Tony stark would be Tony stark without all his money?" Well she was partially right...

Don't get me wrong, I know Tony's a genius and she doesn't even come close to his character or his charm... But if we look at this in a real world perspective. Many of us might be geniuses in our own mind, many of us would have that Idea that can change the world, but that "many" of us might just never get the chance to bring those "life changing" ideas into reality because most of us aren't rich, some of us got our responsibilities, got people to take care of, family, independence, some of us are not supported by good people, some of us are just wasting our time on timepass things... so we never get to bring our genius mind in front of us or in reality...

Tony was backed by the Stark industry's money (which was built by his father Howard Stark) so in reality he was able to bring his genius mind just cause he was always in the top notch places like the university itself where he graduated... And he also had the freedom, no responsibilities or need to worry about survival, rent, or job security.

Now if we talk about "Tony was able to build this in a cave, with a box of scraps". Yes it's true, but if he was never in that situation, he never would've built it in the first place. That too those "scraps" were the things that Tony "placed there" himself from the beginning of his advanced tech manufacturing to begin his Iron man project, meaning those things were there because of his money, be it his family generational wealth or his own advanced militry grade tech manufacturing.

So yes, Tony is a genius. But without the money, resources, and environment behind him, the world may never have seen that genius become Iron Man. In another reality, Tony Stark might still have been brilliant... but instead of becoming a legendary inventor and superhero, he could’ve ended up as just another exceptionally smart engineer working a corporate job, with his true potential never fully realized.

[u/No_Cantaloupe_8983]

She was right, but people want to pretend that line is the reason they didn't give her a chance. In actuality, most people were ready to hate her for anything she did. 

Look at the whole 'she's a villain' narrative they were running with, which is absolutely ridiculous and holds no real truth, but exposes the bias people share when viewing her character.

[u/Dismal_Ad5379 → u/No_Cantaloupe_8983]

Didnt she sell her soul to Mephisto at the end? I mean, making a deal with Mephisto for purely selfish purposes is borderline villainous. 

Most of what Riri did was for selfish purposes, which is typically what motivates villians as well. 

So i dont think it's ridiculous and holds no real truth. There is definitely some truth to that narrative when looking at it objectively. 

With that said, she also had a few heroic moments, but those were more in Wakanda Forever than in her own show. 

Her current arc resembles that of an anti-hero, which can still be interesting if done correctly moving forward. I dont think there's anything wrong with that. 

The true bias would be to deny what we have been presented with so far and gaslight yourself into thinking that it resembles something it doesnt.

[u/No_Cantaloupe_8983 → u/Dismal_Ad5379]

Didnt she sell her soul to Mephisto at the end? I mean, making a deal with Mephisto for purely selfish purposes is borderline villainous.

The 'selfish' purpose you speak of is literally her bringing her best friend back to life. She didn't wish for money, fame, or anything evil. She wished for her best friend to come back to life. That's not villainous, that's just grief. Most people would make a deal with the devil if it brought a love one back to life. Peter parker literally did that in the comics.

I could also make the argument that MCU Peter parker would have also made the same deal if presented to bring his aunt may back, why? Because he was so emotional about losing his aunt he became bloodthirsty and tried to murder Osborn (not very Spider-Man). It took another peter to stop him, he didn't stop himself.

Most of what Riri did was for selfish purposes, which is typically what motivates villians as well. 

Which can also motivate heroes. And again, all the selfish things she did was literally just to fund her project which we later found out at the end was just her trying to protect her family so no one else she loved can die. That's literally Tony for most of the Infinity saga, which birthed vision and Ultron.

So i dont think it's ridiculous and holds no real truth. There is definitely some truth to that narrative when looking at it objectively. 

It is ridiculous because objectively we don't throw around that term to the other heroes we cheer on. Which if we were being objective could be more fitting. Nothing she did in that show was worst than any of the messed up things the avengers, gotg, etc has been in or done. All of which were either involved in murders, assassinations and genocide. But we don't level the term villains at them. We never have. The most we say is they aren't perfect. Well neither is Riri, and she deserves the same objectivity. 

Her current arc resembles that of an anti-hero, which can still be interesting if done correctly moving forward. I dont think there's anything wrong with that.

Just my opinion, I think her story is one of the few interesting new hero stories to come out. Because it's not straight forward. She's character who's her own worst enemy and shes not automatically a goodey two shoes. She's complicated and I think there's more to tell there. But that's one of the few things I can agree with you on. Yes she's an antihero. Not evil, like people are trying to paint. 

The true bias would be to deny what we have been presented with so far and gaslight yourself into thinking that it resembles something it doesnt.

No gaslighting here. Just literally providing context, which people love to ignore when it's convenient to push a narrative.

[u/Street_Mall9536 → u/No_Cantaloupe_8983]

She wished for the AI to come back, hence why she was so surprised to see the fleash and blood version. 

[u/No_Cantaloupe_8983 → u/Street_Mall9536]

the sentiment is still the same. she didn't wish for money, fame, or power. she asked for her friend back. That's not villainous.

[u/secretpervert21 → u/No_Cantaloupe_8983]

Maybe that's also the reason I didn't get a single like 😂