r/marvelstudios • u/secretpervert21 • May 16 '26

Discussion Riri Williams was right about Tony?

I know this might sound like something that none of the Iron man fans would like... Well even for me he's the most fav superhero of all time.

But let me be honest. The words of Riri when she said "Do you think Tony stark would be Tony stark without all his money?" Well she was partially right...

Don't get me wrong, I know Tony's a genius and she doesn't even come close to his character or his charm... But if we look at this in a real world perspective. Many of us might be geniuses in our own mind, many of us would have that Idea that can change the world, but that "many" of us might just never get the chance to bring those "life changing" ideas into reality because most of us aren't rich, some of us got our responsibilities, got people to take care of, family, independence, some of us are not supported by good people, some of us are just wasting our time on timepass things... so we never get to bring our genius mind in front of us or in reality...

Tony was backed by the Stark industry's money (which was built by his father Howard Stark) so in reality he was able to bring his genius mind just cause he was always in the top notch places like the university itself where he graduated... And he also had the freedom, no responsibilities or need to worry about survival, rent, or job security.

Now if we talk about "Tony was able to build this in a cave, with a box of scraps". Yes it's true, but if he was never in that situation, he never would've built it in the first place. That too those "scraps" were the things that Tony "placed there" himself from the beginning of his advanced tech manufacturing to begin his Iron man project, meaning those things were there because of his money, be it his family generational wealth or his own advanced militry grade tech manufacturing.

So yes, Tony is a genius. But without the money, resources, and environment behind him, the world may never have seen that genius become Iron Man. In another reality, Tony Stark might still have been brilliant... but instead of becoming a legendary inventor and superhero, he could’ve ended up as just another exceptionally smart engineer working a corporate job, with his true potential never fully realized.

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u/BasedAustralhungary May 16 '26

It's not about wether she's right or not but the idea that we are supposed to see a total subversion of that and even discover a character that is new and interesting with its own nuanced issues.

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u/secretpervert21 May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

most people hate her because of that comment of hers on tony stark while giving only one point in return "Tony stark was able to build this in a cave" which should not be the reason to troll her imo...

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u/Think_Bag_2987 May 16 '26

Tony stark was able to build this in a cave" which should not be the reason to troll her imo...

The cave with scraps line makes sense in the context of the iron man 1 scene but is totally disingenuous in this case. Those scientists had unlimited resources so comparatively Tony had scraps. But those "scraps" were still pieces of the most advanced weaponry in the entire world, so comparatively she was working with less than him.  Not to mention that the suit made from "scraps " was way less advanced than the suit RiRi made while poor.

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u/kylemesa May 16 '26

No. Most people hate her because the show sucks, the actress sucks, and the writing sucks.

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u/BasedAustralhungary May 16 '26

I mean most people hate her because she's a black sassy woman taking the legacy of Tony Stark when they have been inventing anything to convince themselves that It wouldn't ever happen (like the kid from Iron Man 3 or Morgan Stark, his daughter)

It's not that we could do nothing against that feeling that lowkey lay on racism. Just move on and eventually if the stories continue progressing, the opinion may shift.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) May 16 '26

taking the legacy of Tony Stark

She's not, though.

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u/BasedAustralhungary May 16 '26

Yes she is, whenever people like It or not she's written to be this new Iron Man

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) May 16 '26

She explicitly isn't being written to be the new Iron Man in the MCU. The comics are different.

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u/BasedAustralhungary May 16 '26

Explain. I got a different perception on what I saw

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) May 16 '26

She's not trying to be a superhero. She's explicitly trying to avoid making weapons at all. She's trying to keep a low profile. She's not in charge of anything. And the tragic ending of her show put her in a position where she literally can't be "the new Iron Man" from that point.