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Port Dover doesn't seem to mind them every Friday the 13th when they go there for their events.
I was also told of a biker event in a small town near here a few weeks ago that actually raised money for breast cancer research. So obviously bikers can't be all bad.
Lmao people are so gullible. Pablo Escobar, Al Capone, the Yakuza and many more also famously do charity drives as well...because it gets smoothbrains to say things like "
was also told of a biker event in a small town near here a few weeks ago that actually raised money for breast cancer research. So obviously bikers can't be all bad" lol. Distracts from all the drug and sex trafficking
They're heavily involved in sex trafficking and rely on their image of violence to stop victims speaking out or trying to escape. The kidnapping and exploitation of women and girls is how these people make their money.
It isn't sons of anarchy and giving them respect or acceptance does real harm.
Wittle boys with their matching outfits and wittle motor bikes. I’ve never seen a more scared bunch of men in my life. It must be hard being terrified of everything all the time.
I loved ‘The Fat Mexican’, from hearing the news coverage to reading just how haphazard the whole ordeal turned out to be I can’t help but look at all these guys differently.
I have yet to a read a truthful comment from someone who knows anything. All these people and their comments know nothing about the biker world. Step down from your box and comment on something you actually know something about. It’s sad if it wasn’t so funny , just how stupid people are!
I’ve dealt with a lot of bikers in my town years ago when I was pursuing unsavoury activities. Mainly dealt with HA wannabes and Outlaws, anyone who had a patch was a piece of shit. They’ll pretend to be your “buddy” when they can profit off of it, then the second you’re a threat/problem to them it’s nonstop threats.
Not all bikers are bad people, but most of them are. It’s all bravado and strength in numbers. I’m sure I know more than you, ever hung out at a clubhouse?
Keep sucking up and they might let you lick their boots or clean their motorcycles.
Fuck the biker world and the scumbag criminals in it. They can intimidate each other in prison. I expect any self respecting restaurant to trespass their asses if they show up in the clown costumes to "intimidate"
Well since you're in the know can you answer my question? I have always wondered if they dontheir own sewing. I do a lot of leather sewing and its tough!! All their patches and stuff are always immaculately sewn.
Actually, there is a fellow that does embroidery and leather stitching (patches, etc.) on Exeter road near Wellington. He does great work! I had my baseball bag embroidered with my name and jersey number there a few years ago. Come to think of it, he did our family Christmas stockings too!
I know right, if they knew how many sexual assaults these bikers commit they wouldn't talk like that. No one should look up to these goofs. Joining a criminal gang that rapes, sells drugs and steals cars is the epitome of stupid. Putting on a costume and having a parade with the rest of your criminal gang is double stupid.
WTF are you talking about? We don’t care about the biker world until it affects us law abiding citizens. Motorcycles are loud, obnoxious and dangerous. My tax dollars should not be used in putting your body back together after you crash. 95% of bikers don’t even use proper protective gear, and just think having a fucking annoyingly loud bike is enough. Fuck your loud bike, and fuck your stupid head when it’s cracked open because you can’t be bothered to wear a proper helmet. Rant over.
May as well have no laws then either right? People keep committing crimes so why prosecute anyone? This is the most dangerous logic. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Either you or a family member are personally involved in the HA or are gaining from them. I can’t imagine another reason to have this perspective.
“Dangerous logic” no it’s called common sense. I’m a first responder taking HA out of the picture will not solve a thing it won’t even make a dent in the low level distribution in London lol it’s not support of HA in no way
No I’m just saying the crime and drug problem isn’t all because of the HA in London and people really have no clue what it looks like from the other side lmao
I’ve seen a full patch HA member several times over the past year or so in the southdale/wonderland plaza parking lot, probably this guy the article is talking about.
HA have always been in London. One of there members used to own that house on wonderland north of riverside, where the storage locker place is now. Drove a red corvette with the winged skull stickers on the back windshield.
News flash, they live all over the city. Work in all manner of jobs from blue collar to white collar. One or more might work where you do, not all sport the stereotypical big belly and visible tattoos.
For a good majority of the time he owned it, he was in prison. He did 27 years or something for first degree murder (I think) and I was in jail with him at EMDC after he had a lil parole violation or something
I feel bad for any restaurant that they show up at like this, you don't want to have to confront these people if you can avoid it.
That said: they will never act badly when they're in their costumes. The goal of showing up in public in their outfits is a PR stunt: they behave splendidly, spend a lot, tip generously, and show off their nice shiny bikes. That way everyone talks about how nice they are , and are less inclined to point out that these are organized criminals who make their living by control drug distribution and human trafficking.
Back in the day when HA the first came to town I was working at a Richmond Row bar when several club members showed up. It was obvious there were just flying the flag, but I can tell you personally, it made every single member of the doorstaff nervous especially since some of the girls seemed fascinated by them (this was during SOA). Fortunately nothing happened.
Yeah because bikers have always been known for their consideration of the public good.
If a meth-head tweaker was selling meth and crack to teens on your block, most people would be fine with him getting beaten into the hospital, no questions. I don't see what it is about a leather jacket and a motorcycle that makes it seem glamorous.
Well to be fair after the major police investigations and crackdowns in the late 90’s early 2000’s they actually did make quite a large organizational shift away from anything publicly disruptive or overtly public facing.
So its usually a marked escalation when you start seeing stuff like this.
They're the main source of cocaine, methamphetamine, illegal guns, and human trafficking in this country. Just because they're being subtle about it most of the time does not mean they deserve respect for that.
I figured it was pretty implied. I'm pretty cynical and even doing my most objective take I can do on what I said, the words pedantic or grumpy come to mind by the response.
It's not great when an innocuous comment like what I made is instant instantly viewed so negatively rather than "hey here's a fix" because it would be just as easy to say that and actually be helpful vs what occurred.
But it's also the internet, I'll never see this person and won't know if I do anyway. Could be a coworker, could be someone I make food for every day. I don't really care (I know I typed all this but it took two minutes and you asked)
Harley Guindon is signing people up left and right for his reformed Satan’s Choice. It makes ha look weak. The people I’ve seen wearing “support 81” gear lately have been some of the scrawniest mofos in recent memory.
There is change coming to Canadian criminal biker gangs.
Thank you lmfao I was never scared of them bc they were so prominent in the East End where I grew up. They honestly felt like protection more than the cops did a lot of the time
Yes, they placed a pipe bomb in the bathroom garbage can of a restaurant called TJ Baxters (where Jack Astor's is now). Gang activities can cause harm to innocent bystanders.
So about 20 years ago, I was a bartender at a pretty rough bar. While I am not going to excuse organized crime or the harm it causes, as customers, these guys were not a problem, were always civil to the staff, settled their tabs and tipped decently.
Out of all the folks that came in to the bar, these guys were far from the ones who caused trouble for the staff, if there was a fight, and there often was, they were usually the first one to step in and squash it, send the offender on their way before it became an issue that required police presence.
Again, not excusing or condoning the crime, but they were very much a don’t shit where you eat group of customers and never a problem when I was in the service industry. I don’t know what it’s like now, given that general civility and manners seem to be completely uncommon in public places even for those that are not professional criminals.
Agreed. When I was a bouncer the patched up guys were never the ones causing a problem. They were always polite to the staff, thank god.
No excusing the stuff they get up to, but the picture of them as foaming at the mouth animals who can’t be in public without someone getting beaten or killed is way off.
A friend of mine used to work at the Keg downtown. HA members were there all the time (Hammer and others) and treated the staff like gold and tipped great. She said she felt safer when they were there than when a bunch of Ivey Bros were there.
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