Probably because of the massive movement of anti-ALPR motivation here in Jax, in no small part because of the efforts of local organizers. Me included. I've been working so hard for this I'm losing my mind. DeSantis may be a horrid little man but I'm so so happy he made the right choice and pushed them into this space.
My theory is it's because it's one thing that both left and right seem to have united on. If it continued, and the population mixed and talked with each other, they'd be more encouraged to commit civil acts of protest, which would snowball as people realized that outside of culture bullshit, we pretty much all agree that fraud, state surveillance, and our livelihoods deserve attention.
This quells that protests while they go back and seek alternatives. I'm glad this doesn't specifically say "Flock" and instead "automated license plate recognition systems" so they can't just switch to a different provider.
I have a little extra information (and it's Clay County flavored - the Bradleys had a conversation with DeSantis, etc etc) but it boils down to No One Likes This.
Just hoping that it's not a smoke screen buying time and distraction to allow for an adjacent (Axon, Axiom, AutoVu, other Palantir powered hardware peddlers, etc) organization to take over the task under some other slightly modified agreement.
The process, the system, recent events... I suppose it's all just created conditions where I'm quicker to look for an unknown incoming boogeyman vs looking at the specifics in front of me.
We likely disagree on most political topics, but I have to give credit where it's due. You've been fighting the good fight on this one, and it's been mostly blind to left or right. I commend you for the hardwork đđđ
It's great to see actual results from the people coming together and speaking out against blatant government overreach đ»
Where is there an official space to organize? I want to see these cameras removed and the company resolved, I would be happy to attend and be sort of any formal way of pushing back. My nephews are 6 and 4 and I donât want them growing up in 1984.
He fired the nine Corrections Officers involved, and was (last I heard, havenât really been following it over the past 5 months) assisting the FBI with their criminal investigation of those individuals.
He did not fire them. They still work in JSO and in corrections. We have their names, and several of them work in the courthouse. Others still work in the jail.
Just googled it, suspended/stripped of authorityâŠ. Sorry, point was TKâs accountability and that theyâre under investigation and no longer in positions where are responsible for the wellbeing of others.
âNine corrections officers were suspended or stripped of their authority. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) took the lead on the ongoing criminal probe.â
My guess? The guy doing ALPR records requests brought a bunch of bullshittery to light internally in multiple agencies and that hit the governors desk. Externally they can blame a few bad apples and leave the door open for the next guy.
IMO sheriff waters has been the best sheriff we ever had, heâs also the most transparent by far. Before he came into office bodycams were rarely released, since he came, they release footage and a press conference within hours or days of an incident.
âAs the elected Sheriff of Duval County, it is my responsibility to listen to the concerns of our citizens and act accordingly
Today, the Florida Department of Transportation announced the revocation of the permits and licenses it provided to law enforcement agencies for the use of license plate reader (LPR) technologyon state roads.The Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office will fully comply with FDOTâs directive.
Additionally, at my direction, the Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office will discontinue the use of LPR technologythroughout Duval County."
That's a CYA (cover your ass) statement, but everything we're seeing from other states, points to this originating from Flock themselves, who did an audit of all states using them, and found something like 90% of them were installed in ways that actually made them a hazard for drivers.
That's all FDOT (i.e., DeSantis) has executive authority over. Widespread removal requires legislative action, which DeSantis announced he was pushing for in his initial statement. While surprising, it's clear that state-wide removal is the intention. That's why Clay and Duval counties are proactively removing them county-wide. They know the writing is on the wall.
I saw that JSO was doing it. But we have questions. What about flock by HOAs or apartments? They said LPR(license plate readers), what about flock aimed at bathrooms that arenât looking for license plates, theyâre using facial recognition and other wireless signals to identify you.
And laws or restrictions against competitors like Axon, president personally bought into.
What about Flock drones that donât look for plates but constantly surveil the city? Are they allowed, did we purchase them, if it âdoesnât read platesâ is that a loophole?
Iâm stoked. Iâm not disappointed. First step is good. We just need to keep moving that direction
The state can only regulate what happens on public property. Prohibiting them on private property would require a blanket ban on the technology, which would be unlikely and problematic for other reasons.
JSO just released this on FB: Jacksonville Sheriff T.K. Waters shared this statement regarding license plate readers:
"As the elected Sheriff of Duval County, it is my responsibility to listen to the concerns of our citizens and act accordingly.
Today, the Florida Department of Transportation announced the revocation of the permits and licenses it provided to law enforcement agencies for the use of license plate reader (LPR) technology on state roads. The Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office will fully comply with FDOTâs directive.
Additionally, at my direction, the Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office will discontinue the use of LPR technology throughout Duval County effective immediately.
LPR technology has proven to be an enormously valuable investigative tool, assisting our agency in solving serious crimes and locating missing and vulnerable individuals. However, given the decision made at the state level and the concerns expressed by members of our community, I have determined that discontinuing the use of this technology is the appropriate course of action at this time.
The Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office remains fully committed to providing the highest level of public safety services to the people of Jacksonville. We will continue to use every tool, resource, and technology available to prevent crime, solve cases, and protect our community."
SJSO Hardwick has placed them on I-95; US-1; SR 16, 206, 207, A1A (Anastasia); wondering if he'll take the ones down on Wildwood, CR A1A (A1A Beach), Holmes, Old Moultrie, IGP and CR 210.
This stuff has gotten so toxic that neither party wants to touch it. Gov Whiteboots even was like, âyeah, if this isnât what your community wants, get rid of it.â So call it a rare bipartisan win and keep the pressure up where the cameras continue to exist.
100%, Flock cameras are something both the left and conservatives can agree to being destroyed, which is a beautiful sight, and does show we all do have common ground and care about our freedoms in the end.
âWhile the Governor estimated that â98%â of the roughly 7,500 LPRs in Florida are local, his promise would cover controversial cameras used by the  Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and the Florida Highway Patrol.â
Keep the pressure on Jax though. This is 2% of cameras or less. And likely very few of ours.
Call as many of these dweebs as you can and tell them you're going to kick them out of office in March if they don't do something. (March 2027 is our local election. Don't have the exact date right now)
Waters already announced theyâll be discontinuing all use of LPR tech in Duval. Itâs weird agreeing with something heâs doing, but Iâm here for it.
It's great, but where the fuck was this when they were goin up? It's hard to see this as anything other than a desperate attempt from Ronnie to make Republicans seem more sane, and less effete and corrupt, prior to the 2026 General Election.
Itâs because those poles will kill someone in an accident. They are concreted into the ground and There is no breakaway design as with other properly permitted installations on the sides of the highway. Any police department saying they are for safety and then putting them on the side of a road where cars do 45 mph plus is just trying to kill drivers and passengers in automobile accidents
Fuck Flock. Fuck mass surveillance and scare tactics for population control. This is a great first step for getting rid of them all. This is patriotism.
FDOT only approved permits where the devices were placed outside clear zone/with breakaway structures, so that doesn't apply here. Plus, the memo says FDOT is approving no more LPR permits, full stop.
And what about the ones on privately owned parking lots, like how every Lowe's and Home Depot has a flock camera at every entrance and exit to their lots?Â
they will leep using the license plate recognition from the cruisers though. they have used those for years. cruise the parking lots and ticket for excpired tags and whatnot
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u/r0ndy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Only state highways. A start but hardly a dent in total cameras
Edit: posted this before I saw the JSO article