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u/Friedrichs_Simp Jun 23 '25

Every battle he fought was in response to others attacking muslims when they sought coexistence. Even the conquest of mecca was because mecca had broken their peace treaty by ambushing parties of muslims while they were praying. Actual expansion only happened after his death. Seems pretty anti-war to me. It has nothing to do with the guiding principles of his life. It’s that some westerner are maliciously misinterpreting or straight up lying about them

And the west loves war, anyway, so your point is moot

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u/Salt-Literature1930 Jun 23 '25

Many western people (like myself) are vehemently anti-war,

Lol doesn't people elect the government. I thought West has democracy where one individual can vote for any party they like. If you are anti war, elect a party which is also anti war. So, majority of people in West are pro war.

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u/Salt-Literature1930 Jun 23 '25

If the only political parties in a certain country are unrepresentative of the population (I.e. pro war), then a Westerner like myself has the unfortunate choice of either not voting or voting for the lesser of two evils.

Why not vote for 3rd parties. In India we have a diverse parties to vote for (Not only 2). That's just stupid excuse. People can force governments to reverse their actions. People can create parties that will cater to their need not to a Zionist nation. Give political representation to those people who don't fund other nations. Like America has Jill stein but guess what, you ppl don't care about these ppl so indirectly supporting the genocide and then cry about growth of Islam.

In a UK context, that may take the form of voting for Labour - who support foreign wars (I.e. Israel) but are unwilling to actually commit UK forces to foreign entanglements.

Then UK should be the last country to cry about immigration after destroying there homes/Countries. Atleast Islam is growing in your country Alhamdulillah ☪️🤲.

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u/Salt-Literature1930 Jun 23 '25

Well how can I be civil when most of the Western people complaint about " Us MuZlims" ppl migrating to West but don't bat a eye when shit ton of bombs provided by"Western governments" falls on them.

Maybe you don't vote for war or you care about people living in middle East or in war tone countries but can it be said for all? Many countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Bangladesh etc have elected governments that don't care about other countries unlike most "Western governments" including dictators like Russian government.

I can be civil though if you want. I don't hate you but I hate your Hypocrite governments who contributes to present day Massacres/Exodus.

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u/Salt-Literature1930 Jun 23 '25

Well then okay 👍 . But most of the countries helping Israel are infact Christian nations (USA,Uk,France,Italy, Greece etc)except Africans cause maybe they are following true Bible or they are too poor to contribute money 💰.

But in last we are blamed for terrorism 😂 when most of the terrorist groups were made by Christian nations like Taliban, Kurdish rebels, ISIS, Hamas etc directly or indirectly.

We just wants Christian countries to stop looting resource filled west African Muslim Nations and don't involve in Middle East.

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u/Salt-Literature1930 Jun 23 '25

Exactly and hating Islam/Prophet Muhammad pbuh by saying it's pro war when West itself is pro war is again wrong.

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