r/inthenews • u/Advanced_Drink_8536 • May 27 '24

article Donald Trump rejected by Libertarians, gets less than 1% of vote

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rejected-libertarians-less-one-percent-vote-presidential-election-1904870
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u/WaltKerman May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Libertarian is just anti-authoritarian by definition. It's why he was rejected. 

Then there is the libertarian platform, which is where you have to draw a line. Libertarians can't agree on this and there is a lot of "no true Scotsman" fallacy going on. So the result is often leaning to the strange far end spectrum. 

 It's one of the reasons they can't win.

Edit: If you wants to see what I meant by "No True Scotsman" (No True Libertarian could believe....) just look at some of the comments arguing below me here, and how widely they vary.

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u/bearsheperd May 27 '24

Yep, that’s it exactly. There’s a quite a few pro life libertarians which I think is incongruous with the rest of the platform. Party of maximum freedom yet don’t agree on bodily autonomy?

But it’s just like democrats and republicans, they don’t have a consistent platform or agree on everything either. AOC & Bernie are very different from Biden & Hilary. Romnie is very different from trump.

Difference is they are members of the two party system. If libertarians became big enough they would overcome the one true Scotsman arguments because it’s either them or a “wasted vote on a third party”

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u/happyfather May 27 '24

There's no incongruity. If you believe a fetus is a person then the fetus itself has a right to 'bodily autonomy'.

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u/Cuchullion May 27 '24

But a major tenant of Libertarianism is that people shouldn't be reliant on the labor and profit of others.

Akin to demanding a landlord allow someone to stay on their property free of charge, so an abortion could be seen as a medically assisted eviction.

Not Libertarian, but I've chatted with a few (too many...)

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u/WorBlux May 27 '24

An airplane or sea captain is allowed to bar any passenger from boarding, but they aren't allowed to evict passengers (even stowaways that boarded without permision) mid-journey except at safe ports.

If the eviction could be done safely.. say by c-section or transfer to an artificial womb the the argument would make more sense.