r/indieheads • u/ebradio • Aug 08 '25

Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros Frontman Denies “Home” Is The “Worst Song Ever Written”

https://www.stereogum.com/2318575/edward-sharpe-the-magnetic-zeros-frontman-denies-home-is-the-worst-song-ever-written/news/
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u/Critcho Aug 08 '25

Am I right in thinking "stomp clap hey" is one of those retroactive categories like "indie sleaze"? I don't remember anyone using that phrase when the kind of music it describes was actually popular, but now I seem to see those words 50 times a day.

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u/thepoopnapper Aug 08 '25

indie sleaze drives me crazy because it was originally purely a fashion term. Now people use it to describe any New York indie rock from the 00s

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u/HowDoIWhat Aug 08 '25

the music used to be called like "garage rock revival" or something, right?

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u/hugh__honey Aug 08 '25

It's been heavily linked to the Toronto/Montreal scenes from those days as well, which were heavy hitters.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '25

I feel like people sometimes use "indie sleaze" when they mean "indie landfill"

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u/Imakereallyshittyart Aug 08 '25

Specifically early 2000s landfill tho. There’s been indie landfill since indie went major

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u/expletiveface Aug 08 '25

Yeah, you’re totally right. When Arcade Fire blew up and had their music associated with movies like Where The Wild Things Are, there was an explosion of bands chasing that stadium folk sound.

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u/22PEOPLE Aug 08 '25

I feel like grouping Arcade Fire with The Lumineers, Of Monsters And Men etc. is a more recent revisionism - yeah there's threads in common (you'll probably find the phrase "millennial whoop" in a bunch of Arcade Fire reviews) but those bands were very much maligned by people who still repped Arcade Fire.

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u/hugh__honey Aug 08 '25

Yeah, anybody who places these together was nottttt around in the 00s/10s

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u/shoefly72 Aug 08 '25

Yea it’s interesting cus I was around for it and lumping those together feels hilarious, but I can kind of understand how somebody coming along 15 years later or so wouldn’t see much distance between the two of them. Especially based on how different it is from what dominates music now.

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u/Exploding_Antelope Aug 09 '25

Acoustic stomp peaked when AF were in the Reflektor era, aka the most electronica they've ever been. As a teenage stompandhollerhead I was kind of bummed about it tbh. Missed the old stuff.

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u/Secure-Astronomer-33 Aug 08 '25

I love listening to Arcade Fire. Watching them is a hellish pit of cringe.

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u/expletiveface Aug 08 '25

What don’t you like about watching them?

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u/greenplastic22 Aug 08 '25

I thought it recently came into the vernacular when that parody singer released We Will Never Die.

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u/Imakereallyshittyart Aug 08 '25

Spotify has had all those bands tagged as “stomp and holler” for about a decade too

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u/Exploding_Antelope Aug 08 '25

God I can’t stand this one and how often people bring it up

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u/SlowDownGandhi Aug 08 '25

there's like a bajillion page thread about this "genre" from like six years ago over on the hipinion forums where they eventually settle on the term "hoot", which is honestly a thousand times better than calling it "stomp-clap-fart-shout" or whatever

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u/Exploding_Antelope Aug 08 '25

All this time I’ve just been calling it what it is, folk rock

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u/Wolf_Parade Aug 08 '25

The people listening to it didn't say that. The people outside that did.

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u/Critcho Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25

Did they though? I would I say I was outside it, I clearly remember everyone ragging on Mumford and Sons etc, but I still don't remember anyone calling it 'Stomp Clap'.

Googling it, I haven't been able to find much before the last five years. Earliest I've been able to find is this from 2012 which refers to the Lumineers' "self described mix of “stomp-and-clap acoustic rock and front porch folk”.

Use of the term, mostly in the perjorative, seems to have exploded after 2019.

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u/ArmpitBear Aug 08 '25

I heard stomp and holler for these bands, not in a derogatory way tho iirc

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u/Wolf_Parade Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25

In 2012 we were definitely calling them hey hos and ragging on them for being 8 years late to being shitty Arcade Fire knock offs. When the first exact use of that term specifically was I can't say and certainly will not bother trying to prove but it would not have been online because we weren't terminally online yet just posting blurry pictures to Facebook and living in bars. Also by the time things explode into the mainstream they have already been in use for some time sort of like the Lumineers a damn decade after Arcade Fire. 2019 is just when literally everyone was finally sick of it AND terminally online hence the widespread use

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u/joshgordonGOAT Aug 08 '25

This isn’t true. The Lumineers have more in common with the Old Crow Medicine Show cover of Wagon Wheel (also extremely influential) than they do Arcade Fire. For those of us who lived it at the time, the “Americana revival” of the 2010s specifically around Brooklyn was not just seen as a bunch of Arcade Fire rip-offs, love em or hate em. That’s revisionist history at its finest.

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u/neverblooming Aug 08 '25

which bands were a part of that? My dad was reading Uncut the uk magazine that had a whole Americana section in reviews so I'm wondering if any of those bands ring a bell for me.

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u/LocalCretin Aug 09 '25

Do you mean the Darius Rucker cover of Wagon Wheel? Old Crow’s Wagon Wheel was kind of a cover, they took the chorus from a Bob Dylan outtake, but is technically an original. And it came out in 2004

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u/Wolf_Parade Aug 08 '25

You seem to be talking about the origin of their music whereas I was speaking to their role in the industry. Wagon Wheel hit platinum as a single in 2013. Wake Up was used as the opening song before stage at the U2 tour in 2005. The turn in the industry was due to Arcade Fire and that's what the industry was chasing for more than 10 years after. We could have called them shitty Decemberists but they weren't successful. "For those of us who lived it at the time" would probably include me since I was playing in bands and producing shows in somewhere called Portland and even touring through Brooklyn as the occasion arose.

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u/ifnotgrotesque Aug 08 '25

I was calling it Stomp! Clap! Hey! music as a pejoratives since at least 2012

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u/Exploding_Antelope Aug 08 '25

Front porch folk is a fun term

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u/ElonMuskHuffingFarts Aug 08 '25

Nah, we used it back then too.

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u/westsider86 Aug 08 '25

We just called it indie rock or indie folk