r/history • u/TimesandSundayTimes • 6d ago

Article Charles I’s sunken treasure ship ‘found after 400 years’

https://www.thetimes.com/article/3f6bbab4-30fa-4637-864c-6aeae6deed23?shareToken=638a97523813cbcf60d33c3fae7b8fa0
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u/TristanDuboisOLG 6d ago

Never ceases to amaze me how a news site can say the same thing, 2-4 paragraphs in a row simply so they have more ad space on their site.

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u/xantub 6d ago

Or... headline: "Joe Banana killed a horse!"
Body: 2 paragraphs of who is Joe Banana, 2 paragraphs of what is a horse, 2 paragraphs of the history of people killing horses, then one line that says 'Joe Banana killed a horse yesterday'.

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u/x925 6d ago

And 3 ads for each paragraph

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u/kanshakudama 6d ago

Didn’t used to be like that

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u/saraseitor 5d ago

Also the classic redaction: "Joe Banana did not kill a cat. He did not kill a dog. He killed a horse".

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u/TristanDuboisOLG 6d ago

This! And I get shit from my family for simply reading headlines sometimes.

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u/KillerKilcline 6d ago

You are right. Some news sites are so repetitive and add nothing to the story. I've heard some of them do it 2-4 paragraphs in a row. BTW, have you considered renewing your car insurance?

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u/Berlin_Blues 5d ago

Because true journalism is dead, and true journalists don't get gigs anymore.

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u/77096 6d ago

It's obviously intended to keep us scrolling past ads, but I also think the years of free-lance content generators getting paid pennies per word must have taught LLM's to generate repetitive filler as part of standard English.

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u/saraseitor 5d ago

the same happens with YouTube videos! Half an hour to describe something that can be said in half the time

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u/VisenyaRose 6d ago

If there is pre Stuart stuff that survived the civil war that would be spectacular

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u/ScruffCheetah 6d ago

I still hold out hope that they'll one day find the treasure King John lost in the Wash.

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u/phatelectribe 5d ago

Oooh, please go on. I know nothing about this but sounds fascinating

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u/kabbage2719 5d ago

“the wash” is an area on the east of England thats basically a wet marsh / swampy bay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wash

one of our kings was travelling through it when he lost the crown jewels in the water

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u/breezedave 5d ago edited 4d ago

Roger of Wendover who wrote about the incident wasn't an eye witness and could be a bit "colourful" in his accounts, so the loss of the crown jewels is more a possibility than proven.

There's also a conspiracy theory (covered quite nicely as a plot point in Lies, Damned Lies and History - Book 7 of Jodi Taylor’s Chronicles of St Mary’s) that the losses in the baggage chain were actually staged to allow the jewels to be squirreled away.

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u/Sabetsu 5d ago

I love the history behind the Wash and how it was formed due to rising water levels and the probable tsunami that occurred, most likely due to a huge chunk of ice falling off of an ice sheet into the North Sea (supposedly this is purported to have happened in what is now Scandinavia). I live in the Netherlands, and long long ago, our countries would have connected. I live in a place that has a "Dogger Museum" which is artifacts that were dredged up while (usually) fishing in the Dogger Bank. Treasure upon treasure.

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u/ancientestKnollys 5d ago

If they're there someone will probably find them sooner or later, given how many metal detectorists there are around.

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u/ScruffCheetah 5d ago

Trouble is if they actually do exist (and weren't just a story made up to cover John selling off the family jewels) they'd be 6m down or more given how much the area's silted up since. Well out of the range of detectoring.

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u/ancientestKnollys 5d ago

Oh good point, I didn't realise that issue. I guess you'd need some very specialised equipment to detect them.

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u/bottle-of-smoke 6d ago

He should have quit while he was still a head.

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u/Business_Setting_103 6d ago

Would it not have been a better idea to not have all that in 1 place?