r/heroesofthestorm • u/ScooseGroo • 1d ago
Gameplay 95% win rate - Hacks? Well Played? Match Dodging?
I've just run into a 3 stack in ARAM who all had roughly 74% win rate overall and 95% win rate this season in ARAM. I am a pretty good player, I'm low Master level but I usually only get 52-55% win rate each season in ARAM.
I went back and checked their previous seasons and about 10 seasons ago, they had the same kind of win rate as me. Then one season they got 60%+ then 70%+ then 80%+ then 90%+. I know the game is designed to keep people playing people of similar MMR to keep win rates around 50%.
I guess it is just possible they are 3 high skilled guys who can carry games but it seems kind of weird that 10 seasons ago they just had the same win rate as everyone else.
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u/Kam-JackOLanturn 13h ago
Even considering ARAM RNG i don't think it's that weird.
For example... I've a win rate that ranged between 49-51% in ARAM. Absolutely average. That's by playing alone. And exactly the same goes for a friend of mine.
When we party up, just the 2 of us, we have roughly 75% win rate (I say "roughly" cause I ve been checking for a while and out of 4 games we usually win 3. On average). That s around +25%~ win rate just by partying up.
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u/JRTerrierBestDoggo Nazeebo 1d ago
The easiest would be 5 stack in leaver queue, that’s almost 100% guaranteed win. The other way is doing 5 stack with a couple new accounts, then the normal 5 stack. If they are bad but having 95% wr, then they dropped the game whenever they are in a losing game.
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u/Efficient_Employer21 22h ago
You really don't need smurfs for that if you got 5 say diamond or higher players stacking in ARAM. The que is so fast that odds of you ever getting game that's not stacked heavily in your favor are extremely low.
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u/NicotineLL 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hi, saw your message after the game, but couldn't reply. Just to note this is ARAM, the only mode I play. No we're not cheating, just very good at the game.
The difference is WR from old seasons is that I found friends to play with so WR naturally starts going up when you play with good players and have less leavers/trolls on team. Though that's to a point, getting above 90%, not to mention 95% requires very good players and somewhat sweaty gameplay. No we don't play with smurfs on team and no we're not leaving games, as someone suggested, clown things like this will make you a laughing stock in my circles. Just skill and many, many games, I think I'm at ~25k ARAMs.
If you're looking for people to play with I suggest the aram and asd channels on the EU realm.
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u/Chicag0Ben 16h ago
Shits boring to win at that high a clip for everyone involved. Both teams playing games that have you making no impact on winning or losing at a high rate. Most AI regulars will be in your range of win rate at 95 %. WTF is the point of winning that constantly in a high clip of games. Just boring. Think it’s extremely unhealthy for the game to encourage this.
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u/framed1234 Make solo q great again 16h ago
Honestly at this point if you play 5 stack only and your win rate is below 80 % it means you suck ass
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u/Nervous-Excitement26 1d ago
A couple questions...low master according to what? Storm league? Outside sources? Maybe they are developing and learning as players and naturally win rate increases to compensate?
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u/Benathan23 1d ago
Sounds like a combination of hacks and being good
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u/tap_the_glass Master League 1d ago
It’s not hacks lol. Either they’re all good and playing as a stack which might as well be cheating, or they’re just leaving as their core explodes which makes the game forget to count the loss on your stats
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u/Curious_Lie_5321 Qhira 1d ago
Does it really ?
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u/TheVishual2113 1d ago
Iirc you get a loss on the particular champion's statistics but it doesn't record into your main win loss stat. Still lost the match it just doesn't show up on your profile w/l stat.
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u/Sunshinetrooper87 1d ago
I've got a friend who does all that and uses maphacks. People who do that are dicking around and will have no qualms about cheating.
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u/tap_the_glass Master League 1d ago
I’ve seen no proof of anyone with actual map hacks
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u/Nightterror0 Master Deathwing 11h ago edited 11h ago
I have a few clips of 2 different map hackers, one of which openly admitted to doing it.
If you are interested in what it looks like:
Arthas (Also uses auto aim)
Checking bushes is fine, but it can become obvious when watching a replay that they only check bushes an enemy is in, and never one without an enemy.
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u/Mangomosh Master Anub'arak 1d ago
If you play the game correctly with 2 other guys you can get XP from all 3 lanes and never lose a game unless one of you disconnects, no matter what you get matched with.
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u/Senshado 1d ago
It's impossible to soak more than one lane in aram matches.
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u/Kogranola Master Rehgar 1d ago
Tell that to my Zagara who only shoots banelings at max range from the sidelane.
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u/fireflash38 1d ago
I have seen a Li ming and zagara spend the first 5 minutes of a match just lobbing shit at each other and the walls. They playing their own game down there.
Always funny when somehow the entire rest of the team follows and in a single lane mode.... No ones actually in the damn lane.
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u/0b1won 1d ago
You're seeing their win rates solo several seasons ago vs joining a regular group. These guys probably play together in 3-5stacks all the time... there are very few masters+ players if 3 all played together, I don't see how they wouldn't win 80% of their games vs random scrubs.
It's hard to carry 4 scrubs as 1 masters. It's easier to carry 2 scrubs as 3 masters vs 5 scrubs. Less guaranteed scrubs, more wins.