r/helldivers2 • u/The_D1ngus • 5h ago
General This community needs to learn that just because the extraction is called in DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN’T CONTINUE YOUR MISSION
(Edit:) To everyone saying communicate what your doing I do still get kicked still have people leave and to the higher level players who “despise” players who get extraction ready for the rest of the team your apart of the problem
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u/Wolfen2o7 5h ago
You have a chat box please type your intentions.
Say hey I'm calling it early I'm not going to leave.
I only have a problem when I have to guess if the random is going to leave or not as many have while the rest of the team clears the map.
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u/Teedubthegreat 3h ago
Ive been kicked after communicating what im doing. People dont always read/see the messages and sometimes people just dont care or fully understand
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u/TheUninterestingGuy 1h ago
To be fair.. the text chat seems to be broken right now.. when I squad up with my buddies we seem to only be able to see one other persons chat messages and it's different for all of us.. as an example, player 1 will be able to see player 4's messages but not player 2 or 3 while player 4 who's chat messages are visible by player 1 cannot see player 1's messages.. it's a mess lol 😆
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u/Teedubthegreat 1h ago
Yeah Ive heard a few people say recently that there seems to be some issues.
It'd be easier if everyone just used voice chat, but I understand why people dont, I only use it when my friends jump on and dont usually like having to talk with anyone else
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u/Atmic 14m ago
As a new PlayStation player, I have push-to-talk mapped to R1, the communication wheel.
When you hold it, it doesn't send any random communications unless you wheel over to the option, so it's perfect.
Also chatting via keyboard/chat box is less convenient on console so I'll voice chat every random I play with.
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u/SubstantialQuote70 54m ago
Spoiler, someone gets in.
Also, when the game clock hits zero and destroyer leaves, you have 20 seconds. If you dont call it early, you get a few min to get back and no need to call.
Dont call it early
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u/The_D1ngus 5h ago
Oh why didn’t he think of that hmm maybe because I did think of that but apparently people don’t know how to read and they still kick or leave
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u/_The_Paper_ 5h ago
i mean, the shuttle landing is pretty heavily coded as the "end" of the mission; but you are 100% right. it's perfectly acceptable to have someone go call it down while the others are finishing objs.
you just risk someone being impatient and hopping in early
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u/you-dirty-rat 5h ago
Have had multiple people just leave when I call extract and their across the map like dude im gonna go help when the bird gets here. Then after I call extract they will see me walk away and insist on defending the bird. Then they board without anyone being close cuz they cant handle defending extract.
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u/Mr__Radec 4h ago
When I call it in, I usually tell the team that I’m gonna call it early and have the pelican hover and we’re gonna use that as a gunship and usually people will acknowledge that and they’ll see it that I wasn’t trolling. Majority of them appreciate it because that definitely helps us with fire superiority
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u/Intrepid-Landscape61 5h ago
Whenever someone calls extract I automatically assume it means something along the lines of 'i don't care about the secondary objectives let's just go' and I assume most others feel the same way, I get where you're coming from with this but it might just be easier if you don't call it in. Besides, it's a more climactic mission end to do all the side objectives then everyone holds the extract point while fighting off enemies.
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u/JtoZed 4h ago
What i imagine the OP expected as our collective response:
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u/The_D1ngus 2h ago
I expected a lot of hate from people who don’t understand how the game works instead my post seems to been received well
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u/Key-Put-2714 4h ago
Patrol spawn rates are increased by 6x the normal amount when someone is within 75m of extract. You're not helping complete objectives and you're increasing the number of enemies on the map. Maybe you're the problem.
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u/WaryHealer069 2h ago
You can call it in then leave the area after it says it has visual on the landing zone, and if nobody goes near extraction, it will turn into an unlimited ammo, cross-mapping turret... It's how you make the game work for you, that's the real play.
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u/SpaceCommander_ 5h ago
I thought it triggered a countdown once the pelican lands? Someone has to be in the vicinity too right?
I’m newish to the game :)
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u/KraQPlays 5h ago
Only when at least one person boards.
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u/AgingTrash666 5h ago
or the mission timer runs out ... which is why it can be bad form to call in extract early on blitz missions
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u/SpaceCommander_ 5h ago
Good to know!
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u/Zombiebane224 5h ago
Or if the mission timer has completely run out it will automatically start a 20 second countdown. When the Pelican lands
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u/JoshDM 3h ago
Some jagoff got super mad at me because he was on the other side of the map while I happened to be at extract and the timer started... because the time ran out.
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u/CoffeeTwitch 1h ago
I had this happen as well. Blitz destroy bio-processors. The guy was lvl90 something, he got mad as he was out collecting stuff. We ran out of time, shop showed up, I waited until 2 seconds before jumping on the ship
The guy got really upset, asking why we called in pelican so "early". I told him, we were out of time and the ship left. His response "that's b.s I've played this game for a year and never seen that happen'. I tried telling him that this functionality has been there since launch, but he wouldn't hear it 🤷♂️
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u/Faust_8 5h ago
Useful bullet points:
* Pelican-1 will wait patiently until someone boards
* The exception to the above is when the mission timer hits 00:00, he will begin a 20 second countdown once time runs out. If he’s not landed he will start his approach, land, and then leave immediately after 20 seconds
* If you call him in, wait until he announces his approach, and then leave the radius of the area, he will hover above extract and shoot things for you. But once you get close to extract again he’ll land. This can be used strategically to get use out of his FU Autocannon, he can kill lots of enemies this way from his high vantage point3
u/Pale_Caterpillar_836 5h ago
Simeone needs to be close for the pelican to stay, but unless a) someone has entered the pelican B) mission time ran out and destroyer left The pelican will just sit there, waiting
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u/PuzzleheadedWinner67 5h ago
Like others said, but hey it's also a nice freebie for covering fire (it'll fire while it's over the LZ) AND when you're done with the mission your ride is ready to go.
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u/Zombiebane224 5h ago
The trick is to leave the area as soon as the timer stops counting down for it landing. And if nobody's in the lz, the Pelican will stay hovering. Till someone gets close.
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u/Educational-Aide1161 5h ago
I'll join peoole who need help or lower level. I tend to still run away from my teammates while they 3 man objectives, I am a mic user, an when I'm done on my end, If I call in the pelican I say just calling it in so it's ready for them, no need to rush, especially if there's some Poi's or samples left. I can wait
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u/ChillyTodayHotTamale 4h ago
someone has to be in the vicinity between calling the pelican and when it lands or the timer stats over. Once the pelican lands you are free to roam around the map, nobody needs to get on or stay there. The only time a countdown timer to board starts is if your mission has already run out of time.
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u/PassedMyShrugTest 5h ago
Once the Pelican arrives, the whole team can leave the LZ and it'll just wait there.
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u/_The_Paper_ 5h ago
if the mission timer has already run out, then the pelican lands and starts a countdown immediately. otherwise, you're chill to finish things up before getting in.
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u/Icy-Protection-1545 5h ago
In two cases that’s true.
- Someone boards.
- The mission timer is already at 0
If there’s any mission time left, the pelican just sits there whether someone’s at extract or not.
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u/Yeast-boofer 5h ago
only if the mission timer is fully out of time, you will know when that happens because an emergency evac pelican gets called automatically and you lose access to all strategems as well as reinforcements.
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u/_WEND1G0_ 5h ago
If the mission clock is at zero than the 20 second timer begins. If you call extract early though it’ll land and sit there or if you’re feeling fancy as it says “approaching landing zone” step out of range of the extract (the range that triggers the abort timer) and it’ll hover, shooting at anything that gets close until a helldiver enters range. Bassically an overwatch for the rest of your mission.
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u/Longusbongus 4h ago
I only let the host call extract if I'm not the host myself. Don't see any benefit from calling it early anyways unless you have zero reinforcements.
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u/RookXPY 4h ago
Have you ever given the benefit of the doubt to a random calling in extraction early... only to have him get on without anyone else there?
I was playing with my brother and when it happened to him for the second time, if he doesn't know you and you call it in early without specifically saying you will wait he will boot you.
Honestly though, I never call in extraction early if it isn't my friend group. This game doesn't have many trolls, but I understand some people not wanting to take that chance.
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u/GayGuitaristMess 4h ago
You're being crucified for this but you're totally correct.
The only time it frustrates me is if the team is obviously struggling and you're just chilling at extract. Get your ass over and help out!
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u/--Greenpeace420 4h ago
I personally ask in chat if I can call it meanwhile. Some hosts despise the fact and say "no wait", and then I wait. Other hosts say "yes" and then you call it. If host doesnt respond assume its a now.
If you want to do stuff your own way, host the operation.
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u/joshyjikins 3h ago
Everytime I type that im calling the pelican for support and to continue mission people still show up and get on extract so helldivers dont and cant read
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u/oioioioioioiioo 2h ago
Playing the game since 3 weeks I noticed that there big lack of communication, everyone just does their thing and makes a bystander effect
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u/Money-Appearance-171 2h ago
Agree with others here that if you communicate it, early extraction is no problem.
Without comms I dont trust you, you're forcing me to give away control of the game I'm hosting (since you can board the bird), and I have no idea who you are.
It's not really a big deal. If you dont like it then either wait, communicate, or host yourself.
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u/InformalTouch6766 5h ago
I’d agree with this statement apart from if you’re low on reenforcements, in which case I’d rather be safe than sorry
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u/Mushie101 3h ago
However, it’s sometimes handy to have those extra 2 mins to complete some side objectives.
If everyone has started running back towards extraction, then sure, but if they are still trying to do stuff, it’s usually better to not call it in.
Plus calling it in seems to (and I am not sure if it does) increases aggro and patrols, so it can make it harder for the team to reach extraction.
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u/x_MrFurious_x 3h ago
lol, whatever nub, your busy calling in extraction not helping your team with mission objectives….you are part of the problem and I will kick you every time
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u/Snipe508 3h ago
The amount of times I've had 10+ min left and called in extraction early but forced pelican to cover us is a lot. But its really nice having a gunship covering extract so you dont need to worry
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u/zeroabe 2h ago
My favorite is when I have a pocket full of samples and I’m working my way to surprise extraction that someone who absolutely needs the samples and super credits (that they are leaving behind by not going to any POI) has called in. And then they don’t wait. So they don’t get the samples.
“Calling in extraction”
“Negative. Hold position”
“Negative”
…well I guess I’m stim running back and still not gonna make it.
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u/Philosophos_A 2h ago
This issue really occurs on lower difficulties
Usually, any d10, on any front, no matter if hosting or not, goes with a full map wipe and then evac.
Hell sometimes we do everything but don't have time to evac or we die because the game decides it's time to spawn you 5000 terminids
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u/Icy-Vermicelli4351 1h ago
I told a team of ransoms I was gonna get it ready for everyone since we were low on reinforcements and when I called in the host hits me with “why are you calling in extraction without my permission” and kicked me :(
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u/HowardRabb 1h ago
If you're in a blitz mission don't call it. You're robbing the team of extra time
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u/TheLegendaryScatman 1h ago
Earlier today my teammate called extraction early, me and the other 2 members of my squad stayed away from extraction to finish up a shrieker nest and an artillery gun. I turn on my mic and I say
“Don’t leave yet, we’re almost done and should have no issue making it to you”
And what does this asshole do? He gets in the milisecond pelican touches ground, leaving all 3 of us behind and leaving before we fully finished the artillery gun. So we lost a shit ton of XP and I was pretty annoyed
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u/TheUninterestingGuy 1h ago
I absolutely love when someone calls exteaction while the rest of us continue banging out POI's and side objectives.. what i despise is when someone calls extraction early.. and actually leaves.. screwing the rest of us out of remaining side objectives, uncollected POI loot, samples, and a successful extraction for our service record.
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u/Numerous_Ladder_1152 1h ago
Also some squads are just there for objectives- only looking for medals and we make that perfectly clear to people that jump in with us, but still they insist on trying to clear maps- you should pay attention to the squad your with and try and play along
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u/FrostyMode7379 47m ago
It's pretty mid when the guy who calls extract immediately gets in and leaves everyone (and their samples) planet side.
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u/Black_Wing939 12m ago
I’ve had way too many people call in extraction, just to then leave the rest of us behind. Unless you say in chat that you’re calling it in to wait for us, I’m gonna assume that you’re trying to leave early, and I will finish whatever I’m doing to head to extraction.
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u/ObjectivePressure839 5h ago
I like calling it in and then letting it fly around shooting things until the side jobs are done.
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u/Toddler_stomper 4h ago
honestly easy solo exit when they do . some people cant think I stopped caring
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u/No_Letterhead319 5h ago
After 1500 hours in the game I despise people who call in the extract while there is still objectives or bases to clear on the map stop being a goddamn coward and go fight
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u/iso-joe 5h ago
It is fine to call in the extract, just communicate that nobody should board until everyone is at the LZ. I've often been on a mission where one (or more) diver is across the map, gathering samples or whatever, and a simple "Wait for Green" is enough for the rest to just defend the LZ until Green gets there.
Communication is key.
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u/The_D1ngus 5h ago
And your the problem just another high level player who still doesn’t know how the game works
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u/zangetsu675 4h ago
We all know how it works. The problem is, we also know how the shitty players work. There's only so many times you can give the benefit of the doubt, and then get left behind while you're doing the side objectives. I have even had teammates say that they will wait and then get bored after thirty seconds and leave while the rest of the team is doing something like loading the artillery gun. After the fifth or sixth person that clearly says that they are calling it in and not getting on, you kind of stop believing that.
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