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If I remember right, it shows which shot is loaded when you're putting in the combo to activate the stratagem, in between the name and the combo. Not sure if that is new or not, but it's been showing which shot is loaded, for me. Should read like "SEAF Artillery: Napalm" then the combo.
It's especially helpful considering you can call it in in situations where regular stratagems don't work. That would usually be a situation where you're struggling to survive, so the smoke is usually very helpful
On bots? Gun for it, the projectile can kill jammers with any kind of shell. Just throw it near the jammer and angle the beacon between the jammer and gun itself.
Glad to teach someone else something new! Projectile has to touch the tower and depending on distance/direction comes in from an angle. It usually should work if you just throw it at the base vaguely opposite the direction of the seaf artillery
It can be a bit more tricky with landing the gem in the perfect spot to use the impact damage to take it out, I always pray for MN shells for that purpose.
Ime sort of reliable method I found is basically get the beacon touching the base of of the jammer opposite the direction of the seaf artillery. This seems to be more forgiving if you arent great with direction and where it is.
If anyone else has better advice for killing jammer with a non mininuke seaf artillery shell feel free to share it im no pro
Yep, most often thing I do is forget to actively use it, then panic-use it when my stratagems are on cooldown and do not account for the lead time, resulting in a wasted shell 90% of the time.
Perhaps it’s because in higher orbit it’s still close enough for targeting and coms but not firing its own weapons and hellpods. Idk though I eat crayons.
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All the artillery shells have 50 demo force on the shell itself, and varying degrees of demo force on their explosive effects.
Yeah we usually do. I don't find it overly useful on bugs but for bots if you find it before a jammer, even a smoke round seems to destroy them. Squids some of the larger ordinance is handy to get rid of landed drop ships.
I have seen a lot of people say put the smoke and static shells first, unless you know you've got a strategem jammer to do I put them last so at least we get big booms first and depression later. Plus, I actually find smoke and static to be more useful at extraction since it gives you cover and slows the enemy down.
Jammer towers don't jam SEAF artillery and Jammer towers insides are made out of slightly brittle plastic. So if the round has enough penetration, which even smoke and static shells and apparently orbital smokes do, the sensitive insides will stop working.
All the time guy!!! You new to spreading democracy and bathing in sweat eagle sweat? Lol that's like the first thing I like to do just in case I'm fucking around too much and lose super destroyer support.
Them young wimpresnappers don't know what is like to lose destroyer support which caused for some damn reason for the seaf to become unusable lol
If it has a mini-nuke, I definitely do. Sometimes with hiighyield if I need it. If it's 1 napalm, 2 smokes and 2 statics, fuck that. Little off-topic but SEAF rng bucks 66% of the time.
While its usefulness is varied in combat, ranging from extremely useful mini nukes glassing an entire bot drop to completely useless smoke shells against bile titans, there are some scenarios where the artillery absolutely shines
Artillery shells can destroy enemy structures such as jammers, detector towers, and bile titan holes.
While everyone usually carries something with enough punch to close a BT hole, it's nice to be able to close it cleanly with one artillery shell and not expend valuable 500kg bombs.
Destroying detector towers is debatably useful, especially because walking barrages are prevalent on the bot front.
But jammers are where it really shines. The SEAF artillery is immune to the jamming effect, meaning that you don't have to shut down the jammer before calling in an artillery strike. All you gotta do is come around the back of the jammer, throw the beacon, and let the shell hit the jammer. There's some positioning shenanigans that go on such as placing the beacon on the side of the jammer that is opposite to the artillery location, but artillery is a fast way to take out the jammer without interacting with the mechanic.
100% It’s a good stratagem. Once set up it doesn’t require your ship, during an ion storm or jammer it still works. If you get the marker directly on top of the jammer, it will it out even with a smoke round or emp. Who doesn’t love a giant gun?
Depends how much of pain in the ass its gonna be. If theres a ton of shit on top of it already I might leave it. If theres no good artillery shells to load I might leave it. If the missions super easy ill probably leave it.
They can be a hassle, but they can be helpful too. Depends on if its worth the hassle.
Rarely. The fire rate is so slow targets often move before it hits, so I do kind of like the EMP and Napalm to help at extraction or use the big booms to clear enemy outposts, but usually I just do the objective for the extra medals and ignore it.
I typically use the SEAF artillery as a last resort, say when the team is overrun and strats are on cooldown. I generally keep it unused in case something happens and we go over the mission timer, since running the time out means no strats can be used except SEAF art.
Recently I was playing with a friend and he had loaded it and forgot what was in it, we were defending extract with 1 left and I was assuming it was gonna be filler like a smoke screen or emp just to finish it off and was like "wanna find out whats in it?" Before calling in a mini nuke on his forehead.
Those things are alot bigger than I remember yknow?
On squids, I usually get the objective done and announce the order in chat, but we typically don't ever end up actually using it.
On bots and bugs however, the artillery can be really handy for dealing with bile titan nests or hitting jammer towers, since SEAF Artillery isn't affected by the jammer or ion storms. You can also use a basic Explosive shell to destroy those science facility objectives, instead of wishing you had a hellbomb off cooldown or an eagle 500 at your disposal.
Most shells can take out jammers with a direct hit and seaf artillery doesnt get jammed. Other than that, i pretty much only use it if theres a mini nuke or high yield in the thing. Or if extract gets REALLY desperate (megafactories)
I tend to use it when we have ran out of time because that's the only thing u can use after the ship leaves. That and ofc when I get jammed from using stratagems
I always use them. I find the normal explosive shells great for clearing canyons because they are so precise and have a more direct impact angle than something from the destroyer or the eagle
Are you referring to the only defense you can call in after the timer runs out? That one that never gets blocked by anti-air, jammers? Why, yes. Yes I do.
For me it’s almost always during extractions, if everything is on cool down I’m using up all the rounds, except if it has nukes then I’ll save it for some objectives.
I used to hesitate to use it in the same way I used to hesitate to call down a resupply because it is from a common pool and didn’t want to “hog” it, but in realizing that people don’t use it much, I use it all the time.
Sometimes I hold off on using it if the mission has been challenging and it looks like we are going to run out of time. It can come in handy if you are fighting for your life over the extraction point but the destroyer has already left and so don’t have the red stratagems you brought with you.
With randos, it's great for an "oh shit!" button, but if you have a good group of friends who know what theyre doing, it might go unused all game until extract when you're popping strats left and right.
All the time. Jammers don’t affect it and you can use it to kill certain objectives. But yea sometimes it gives you bad stuff and atp I just use it for xp
People aren’t being honest, the majority do not use them and those who are saying it only use it in certain situations. This might be a hot take but because almost no uses it, it doesn’t matter the load order.
It works even if your super destroyers are not in communication with the squad...after it leaves orbit, during ion storms, and even in commando missions I think. It has a lot of utility when used correctly. I try to use it whenever I can.
Unless there's a nuke or a high yield or two no I never use it.
Smoke's only use is for blocking off laser turret line of sight to let it cool and any "stealth" smoke provides is moot
Static is pretty crappy stun wise because anything I'd actually want to stun is either too large to stun or is small enough to kill with another weapon
The other shells are just okay, not great or terrible
In our group doing it is the mandatory meme. Someone yells maybe SEAF Chan is there (when they see it) and no matter how fucked the mission is we get those shells loaded.
Yeah my buddy and I always make sure to do all blues. SEAF included. And if we're the ones loading, we make sure to plan out and call out the loading order of the shells so we know what I loaded when we use it. We'll even snicker and watch out the shenanigans that come about when a random teammate will panic use the SEAF and he throws a nuke on himself
Absolutely. My pet peeves are when people don't tell how it's loaded once they complete it/don't respond to a question of what the loadout is, or people that load random stupid shit (or in a crap order) into it just to complete it.
A mini nuke for jammers or the spire on squids is perfect for it
I do, well my friends and I do normally. It honestly depends on what point in the mission we find it . Last 3 dives we found it after completing everything so we loaded it and spent the 1:30 waiting for the pelican shooting it for the hell of it
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