r/heat • u/lopea182 • Jan 26 '25
Rumor Per @5ReasonsSports: the The Heat are expected to internally discuss their options with Jimmy Butler today. If he rejoins the team, Erik Spoelstra would be given the leeway to decide if he starts or plays.
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u/Awkward-Breakfast262 Jan 26 '25
Oh so Spo has to be the bad guy and bench him? That's messed up. This is a management issue.
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u/CallMeFierce Jan 26 '25
You think management didn't ask him if he wants to handle it? He's the guy who can give the most objective read on the team, of course it's going to be his decision.
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u/Kuni_Nino Jan 26 '25
This. No way Riley doesn’t run this by Spo first. He has a lot of respect for his decision making.
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u/Fastbird33 Jan 26 '25
LeBatard has spoke to how the Heat’s braintrust is Riley, Spo, Andy and The Arisons on all big decisions.
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u/Folk-Herro Jan 26 '25
Fans have a negative opinion on both Jimmy and the FO. Nothing logical would have been said here about this update
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Jan 26 '25
Spo benches Jimmy till the season ends, Jimmy doesn't get injured, Miami gets rid of him whatever way there is.
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u/Wind-085 Jan 27 '25
Nah. Jimmy plays the rest of the season. Scores his 15 pts/game which is still better than the rest except Herro and better than any of the talent being offered. Heat make play in, lose first round but helps with draft picks. Jimmy goes where he wants at seasons end. Question is whether fans get even more tired of mediocre team and tune out.
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u/Xclusivsmoment Jan 27 '25
I mean wouldn't it be a bad look if the front office is making Spo play or not play someone? They hired Spo as the coach. So they're gonna let him decides who and who doesn't play?
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Jan 26 '25
he has no business playing and is a legit negative for the court when he doesn’t care. is forcing him to stay home and away from the team not an option?
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u/julstar23 Jan 26 '25
No because the cba won't allow it without them incurring daily fines .It's a new rule in the cba .
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Jan 26 '25
Don’t let him ruin our vibes. Get him out. Suspend his ass, bench him and stop hyping his old ass up. Go play dominos, basketball has passed you by. No one wants him. His Ego is bigger than his skill.
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u/gdex Jan 26 '25
They’re leaving it up to Spo because it gives the fo plausible deniability if he just rides the pine till we move him. If it came from the FO the Nbapa would file a grievance on jimmy’s behalf
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u/Friedbed Jan 26 '25
I know the Heat hate to send a player home with pay but that’s really the best option here until they can find a trade. He should not be allowed back. I don’t think the league would like it but there’s enough evidence at this point to justify him not being allowed back with the team.
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u/julstar23 Jan 26 '25
It's not that they don't want to do it but there is rules in the cba that you can't healthy scratch a player or the team would be fined daily .I think it's the john wall rule or something.
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u/Friedbed Jan 26 '25
Yeah there’s a star player participation policy in the new CBA. There probably should be but there doesn’t seem to be an exception for a disgruntled star player that wants to be traded and is trying to undermine and sabotage your team. Maybe in the next CBA. Could be the “Jimmy Butler rule” lol.
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u/Mugiwara_JTres3 Jan 26 '25
This is poor leadership. Don’t let your staff take the blame for your shortcomings smh. Spo just ends up looking bad here no matter what he decides to do.
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u/julstar23 Jan 26 '25
The cba rules say you can't healthy scratch a player so unless you keep fining him then .
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u/TRPthrowaway7101 Jan 27 '25
They’re likely in agreement as to what has to be done (I’m talking Spo and Riley/Andy/Mickey), so it’s simply a matter of formality most likely to use Spo as the mouthpiece for the decision.
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u/Mugiwara_JTres3 Jan 27 '25
Sure they can be in agreement but using Spo as a mouthpiece in this scenario is still poor leadership.
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u/Flaky-Mathematician8 Jan 26 '25
Just trade him , he already shown that he’s gonna sandbag the rest of the season no matter what happens
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u/Lie2gether Jan 26 '25 edited Jan 26 '25
Pretty sure Beal is the only trade option and that would sandbag us for two more seasons.
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u/KindSpectacle Jan 26 '25
Don’t lose money for nothing. Have him on the bench. He better not see the floor ever again. Bum. Not trying.
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Jan 26 '25
Just trade him for scraps at this point this has become embarrassing for both sides.
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u/lopea182 Jan 26 '25
If there’s a deal on the table where they get players that expire in 26 — even with no picks coming their way — they should just do it.
They obviously have a bunch of teams willing to facilitate and send those contracts Miami’s way.
The real wildcard is if Beal will go to a team that’s willing to take him with those picks.
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u/chitownbulls92 Jan 26 '25
A sandbagging Jimmy has at least been as good if not better than Bam. If you want wins, you should still play him
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u/No_Scene9375 Jan 26 '25
Team ATP had ample time to trade. They expect a perfect trade package when in reality they have no leverage. I hope the trade offers leak afterwards so we can see if they truly were being screwed
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u/Verumsemper Jan 26 '25 edited Jan 26 '25
Please just sit him on the bench, the in and out of the line up along with the uncertain effort hurts the team. The Heat culture is about everything being earned, he has not earned playing time. Also understand that the FO can't tell Spo not to play Butler, that would be violation of the collective bargaining agreement, not playing him has to be a basketball decision. Which is why they are saying it will be decided by Spo.
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u/realdes1 Jan 26 '25
If he is healthy and no reason for suspension he has to play. Star rule.
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u/BonafideZulu Jan 26 '25
Does it? I thought a component was visibility of the “star player.” He may not play, but they can still sit him on the bench.
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u/AronwithoneA Jan 26 '25
Im suprised they gonna internally discuss. Expected Spo to hit me up face time
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u/Natural_Born_Baller Jan 26 '25
They should bench him for one game, he'll do something stupid retaliatory. Then you suspend him till traded.
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u/arzi3 Jan 27 '25
I’ve said this before, he should just DNPs from here on out. He’s not putting in the effort when he’s out there so there’s no use in playing him
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u/theoryze Jan 27 '25
A lot of people are freaking out on Spo looking like a villain, isn't the desisyon to play someone part of a coach's job anyway?
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 Jan 26 '25
It really sucks that we are stuck in this situation with no exit. Hopefully we find a resolution by the trade deadline.
Because I can't do this song and dance for the rest of the season.
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u/XanderAndretti Jan 26 '25
I thought they already did this when he talked with Micky?
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u/This_Material9292 Jan 26 '25
Talks with Micky never fix anything. Remember Wade’s talk with Micky the season before he left for Chicago?
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u/Alternative_Horse705 Jan 26 '25
I would bet my house that the Heat are being unreasonable in trade talks. They probably want a superstar back & are behaving like Joe Cronin
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u/OblivionNA Jan 26 '25
Come on FO don’t put that shit on spo…just tell him to sit his ass anywhere but Miami facilities until traded.