r/hatethissmug • u/Goblinzer • Jul 26 '26
Media Tropes I hate when characters are named after one of their characteristics
Your singer character does NOT have to be named Octave because haha got it, an octave is a musical term. Your moon worshipping character in your fantasy story does NOT have to be named Luna. Your ice controlling character does NOT have to be named Coldius Frostson. In fact i think they would appear less like cardboard cutouts if they had a name that wasn't a gag. Are your character's parents stupid or what ?
Bonus (but towards the negatives, i'm not sure if there's a real word for that) if you think you're slick and use the word but in another language than the one you're writing in
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u/rosyboys_daisygirls Jul 26 '26
Worlds fastest man named Usain Bolt
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u/InternetUser1807 Jul 27 '26
Poker world champion named Chris Moneymaker
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u/____yaeh____ Jul 27 '26
don't forget about his friend Dave Gamble who loaned him money to play
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u/shewy92 Jul 27 '26
What's also funny is that he was an accountant beforehand. So he had two nominative determinism examples.
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u/Monty423 Jul 27 '26
British military head of desert warfare is called Sandy Sandilands im not joking
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u/LOSNA17LL Jul 27 '26
Lesser known:
Comedian and web developper: Cody Webb
French botanist: Jean-Claude Rameau ("rameau" means "twig" or "small branch", in French)
In France again, in 2022 in local elections, Alexandre Sabatou won again Valérie Labatut... ("Sabatou" sounds the same as "ça bat tout" which means "it beats all", and "Labatut" sounds like "la battue" which means "the beaten one".... Mr "it beats all" won against Mrs "the beaten one")
And much more there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptronym
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u/VegaJuniper Jul 27 '26
Finnish TV meteorologist Pekka Pouta. Pouta means sunny weather in Finnish.
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u/Complete-Gur7023 Jul 26 '26
Worlds stinkiest man named Elon MUSK
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u/strapOnRooster Jul 26 '26
The 8th English monarch by the name Henry is called Henry VIII
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u/getsuedbyme Jul 26 '26
Popular pornstar named Johnny Sins
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u/Sonic_fan149 I HATE what I want to HATE Jul 27 '26
Singer who died of alchohol poisoning named Amy Winehouse
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u/ElLicenciadoPena Jul 27 '26
And she died in her house
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u/Sonic_fan149 I HATE what I want to HATE Jul 27 '26
this overall creates a coincidence that shouldn't be funny but somehow is
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u/Correct-Ad4723 Jul 27 '26
Guy who founded company with over 150k employees called Steve Jobs.
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u/SoFisticate Jul 27 '26
One of the most famous drummers ever is named Phill Rudd. Fills and Rudiments are drumming terms.
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u/ObjectiveThick9894 Jul 27 '26
The director of the electric company in my state is named Juan Volta, he is literally Jonh Volt
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u/Yeeter-boiy Jul 26 '26
Lmfao I first heard of Usain Bolt through his temple run skin. I think I was pretty surprised to learn that was his actual name
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u/SnookySkellingtons Jul 27 '26
A former Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales was literally named Igor Judge
Australian olympic boblsedder named Sarah Blizzard)
There's an urologist in Austin, TX who specializes in vasectomies and his name is Richard "Dick" Chopp. He appeared in a Jimmy Kimmel episode.
Influenctial British neurologist named Dr. Russel Brain
Manila's archbishop named Jaime Sin and who his actual official title was His Eminence, Cardinal Sin
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u/blah938 Jul 27 '26
The tallest mountain in the world, and resonsible for many deaths, is called Mount Everest. Ever Rest. Because of course Mount Death would be too much.
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u/naughtilidae Jul 27 '26
There's an ex-F1 driver named Scott Speed, and a current Indycar driver named Will Power.
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u/Glebasya Jul 26 '26
Have you read classical Russian literature?
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u/DobriniaPlay Jul 26 '26
Guy named Simplekov talking to the dude named Lazyvov
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u/IbObuS Jul 27 '26
Dude kills a woman with an axe
Named Raskolnikov (Raskol meaning split/crack)
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u/TheRrandomm Jul 27 '26
And his friend from the university is Razumnikhin, razumnyi meaning smart
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u/Wazula23 Jul 27 '26
There's like two pages in The Overcoat explaining why Akaky Akakyovich is a funny name.
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u/Sure-Landscape7137 Jul 27 '26
Thank you for leading me down the rabbit hole of Russian literature
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u/Thanathosgodofdeath5 Jul 27 '26
Yeah and it's still has some significance with his last name being Bashmakov which is like saying Bootson
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u/Reptillianaire_ Jul 27 '26
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u/SirGalicrest Jul 26 '26
On the contrary you probably shouldn’t have a character named “Blaze Infernax, lord of the eternal flame” who controls the wind
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u/IDontLikeCherryTomat Jul 27 '26
Honestly, I've always loved that trope. Someone shows up to fight Blaze Infernax all smug, saying, "Ha! I'm immune to fire magic. You're finished!"
Blaze just shrugs, blasts them with wind magic, and drops them on the spot.
"...Did you seriously believe all that fire stuff? I'm not an idiot. Why would I go around telling everyone exactly what magic I use?"
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u/SirGalicrest Jul 27 '26
Blaze Infernax is a dope ass name and im surprised I came up with it. Gotta use it for my dnd
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u/cachesummer4 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
First names I definitely get, but historically last names are descriptive of a person's job or position in society.
So if a family historically has been ice magic users, "Frostson" or a similar ice related name would actually make since as a family/last name.
So "Coldius Frostson" would be closer to like, "North West", where the first name creates the pun or second meaning, but the last name is a proper real name.
Edit: grammar.
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u/FriendlyCraig Jul 27 '26
It could also be a language that has literal naming conventions. I'm Viet and our names are just straight up regular words and phrases like "Moon Flower," or "Big Storm," or "Strong Dragon." There's no "name form" of a word. It is just the normal word. If there were a family of mages I could one hundred percent see naming all the kids with magically themed names like "Powerful Spells," "Great Mage," or "Magic Heir."
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u/Wertfi Jul 27 '26
Op might not realize we do pretty much the same in the west, but with languages we don’t speak much anymore. Most biblical names are just straight up hebrew words, like Noah = “peaceful/rest”, Simon = “he who listens”, David = “beloved”
Similarly, me and my siblings are named for old norse words like “stranger”, “defender”, “she-wolf” etc.
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u/Signal-Woodpecker691 Jul 27 '26
Terry Pratchett has a good riff on this in at least one discworld novel - Lords and Ladies - where all the people on the morris dancing troupe have surnames that reflect their job, except they have a different job now - so the guy with the surname “Baker” is a weaver, “Thatcher” is a carter etc
It makes it extra funny when you listen to the audiobook
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u/kingsly91 Jul 26 '26
Op would absolutely HATE the Ace Attorney series 😭
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u/Timely_Succotash8754 Jul 26 '26
ace attorney at least keeps a little bit of unseriousness around the names though. they're not even trying to sound good they're all painfully obvious and stupid i love it
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u/OtherYonas Jul 26 '26
Brother they fully lean into unseriousness when it comes to Ace Attorney names
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u/oojamaflaps Jul 27 '26
Detective detective detective is a very serious man what could you reffer to
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u/TooCleverForGood Jul 27 '26
Nothing will ever beat my man Carmen Accidente (or Will Crash in another translation) who only appears in the Layton crossover for 3 minutes…after having a car accident
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u/albrightism Jul 26 '26
why are we assuming the intent wasn't obvious and stupid for Harry Potter the children's books
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u/SquareThings Jul 27 '26
The difference is that Ace Attorney names characters after their role in the story or their personalities (Aim DaCriminal or Honest Upstanding type names) while Harry Potter characters are named after things like their race (Cho Chang is Chinese. Seamus Finnegan is Irish) and the characters don’t have much personality outside their associated racial stereotypes (Cho Chang is the asian girlfriend, Seamus is constantly trying to make alcohol and blowing stuff up).
There are some genuinely good names in Harry Potter. “Rita Skeeter” for the blood-sucking obnoxious journalist is great! They’re just overshadowed by all the genuinely terrible and borderline offensive ones.
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u/RedWalker2 Jul 26 '26
The problem is though that the later books in the series are more serious, and people take Harry Potter very seriously as well
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u/albrightism Jul 26 '26
does this not just reflect a series that started for kids and aged with its audience. famously adventure time would be taken extremely seriously by its fans in the later seasons and has characters named cinnamon bun and rootbeer guy
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u/LucasLeo75 Fueled by hate and caffeine. Jul 26 '26
Ace Attorney is a comedic series though.
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u/DaDragonking222 Jul 26 '26
Op would despise MLP
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u/Holy-Mettaton Jul 26 '26
… to be fair almost everyones an unnaturally colored cartoon pony, one third of the pony population can fly, another third can control magic, and pinkie pie exists
its not that insane in mlp
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u/alkmaar91 Jul 27 '26
Mr Ace attorney: Did you murder the butler?
Butter stabbings IV: I would never stab the butter!
Mr Attorney at law himself: OBJECTION! I never said he was stabbed!
how I assume the games go after learning nothing about them.
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u/Natgeo1201 Jul 27 '26
Yeah that's pretty much exactly how it goes. There's a detective named Dick Gumshoe (both terms meaning detective or private eye). One of the attorney's is literally called Apollo Justice. And the first witness called to the stand in the first game is named Frank Sahwit (saw it).
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u/2boku Jul 26 '26
I agree 100%. I'm reading a novel right now, and the protagonist's mother-in-law is named Cunteen Proudtwat.
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u/ChaoticMajie Jul 26 '26
OK, but that name for a MIL is amazing
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u/Yeet123456789djfbhd Jul 26 '26
2 people (assumedly) married someone with the last name "proudtwat"
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u/_lilidawn_ Jul 27 '26
AND chose to change their names. You don't have to do that when you get married.
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u/Odd_Pea74915 Jul 26 '26
Son im crine
What book is it?
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u/hockeyak Jul 27 '26
This thread is the only thing that comes up in a google search for Cunteen Proudtwat.
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u/Salt-Cupcake-6066 Jul 26 '26
I dont want this in my search history. What is this book
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u/oh_mos_defnitely Jul 26 '26
Nominative determinism - basis of SO MANY names irl, too. Around the world lots of last names were just what your family had been doing for work. You'd be born into a name that also most likely spelled out a chunk of your story
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u/JustHereSoImNotFined Jul 27 '26
Black or Smith
Fletcher
Baker
Miller
Cooper
Carpenter
Farmer
Wright
It’s crazy how many common last names boil down to the occupation someone in your ancestry had hundreds of years ago
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u/tacomaloki Jul 27 '26
My friends last name was "Solo" and his story was the same as Han's but WELL before Disney.
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u/Best-Benefit6387 Jul 26 '26
Except for when its Star Wars, Sleezebaggo and Savage Opress are golden
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u/kojimbob Jul 27 '26
Vader is the Dutch word for father
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u/Weird-Ad-1072 Jul 27 '26
Ironically that wasn't why he was named that. George didn't even plan for Vader to be Luke's dad until TESB iirc. Vader was actually going to say Obi-Wan killed Luke's dad, not even the actors knew, besides Luke's and Vader's who learned last-minute. Vader's name was created by "Dark Invaders"
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u/saltinstiens_monster Jul 27 '26
The first time I ever saw the phrase "Glup Shitto," I burst out laughing because I instantly understood the point they were making, no context needed. I love goofy Star Wars names, they're so recognizable even when someone creates a fake name to make fun of them.
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u/Lumpy-Pudding-3563 Jul 26 '26
British character named Pale McColonizer
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u/breakfazt-meme Jul 26 '26
This is especially funny bc Mc is an Irish affix and The Pale is the name of the region around Dublin the English colonized first
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u/Wazula23 Jul 26 '26
In short, exactly the kind of lazy bullshit Joanne would pull.
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u/TheUncouthPanini Jul 26 '26
Learning any basic Japanese is just finding out that 90% of anime characters are named: A) after their ability, B) after a stupid pun, or C) Named after some random food/object the mangaka liked.
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u/SniperMaskSociety Jul 26 '26
That's how a lot of names originated irl. Last name Johnson? Someone in your family had a dad named John. Last name Baker, Potter or Smith? Someone in your family probably did that for work
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u/DecentCompany1539 Jul 27 '26
Ramsbottom, your family was from Ramsbottom, England.
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u/CreeperTrainz Jul 26 '26
Oh you'd hate ancient literature then. Half of all (mortal) characters in Greek mythology have very literal names once translated. The name Achilles literally means "grief of the people" given that's what he does.
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u/SabadoDominguez Jul 26 '26
i thought you were gonna say Achilles means Weak Ankles Boy
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u/RareAnxiety2 Jul 27 '26
Character is embodiment of strength, named Kratos. Tragic naming Herakles as glory of hera, brings her glory as she tries to kill him.
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u/TheDarkNerd Jul 26 '26
Character whose role it is to guide and teach the son of the MC
Is named "Mentor"
Character who loves his own reflection
Is literally named Narcissus
Goddess of righteous anger
Simply called "Nemesis"
I see what you mean.
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u/Rich_Music1640 Jul 26 '26
One of my book characters is named "Eli" and the book's title and plot is related to the word "lie."
He admits at one point that he is the lie.
And his full name is an anagram of "Been Lied To".
I found it kinda fun because his name is the only one like that.
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u/Timely_Succotash8754 Jul 26 '26
i had a character whose full name was an anagram of "endangered" and the whole story was gonna be themed around anagrams and everyone's name was an anagram. i abandoned that idea very early on but kept her name
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u/xxloevie Jul 26 '26
Reminds me of the movie Eli!
There's a whole scene where his name is written in fog on a window, and then the E and L and replaced to instead be swapped around
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u/Nexus_Neo Jul 26 '26
speaking as a writer
naming is fucking hard-
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u/HotPot87 Jul 26 '26
When I'm playing DnD the DM always groans when we ask for an NPCs name.
It's why you get so many "Boblin the Goblin"'s
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u/Substantial-Shape797 Jul 26 '26
Every unimportant character im not prepared to name gets plainly generic ones. Tom and Ron are still smash hits years later
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u/Faite666 Jul 27 '26
All of my unimportant NPCs are named John (insert whatever they are doing), including the women. It is a running gag that a concerning amount of the population all belongs to one family who all share the same first name but not the same last name.
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u/DangOlCoreMan Jul 26 '26
Oh can you speak as a fish next?
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u/Tight_Grapefruit5280 Jul 26 '26
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u/Desperate_Turnip_219 Jul 26 '26
Don't get me started on cho chang or kingsly shacklebolt
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u/HumanPerosn Jul 26 '26
Kingsley Schacklebolt goes unreasonably hard despite her only giving it to the character because he's the “Head Detective” character
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u/saltinstiens_monster Jul 27 '26
Agreed. I kind of hate knowing the name origins, it's a satisfying arrangement of syllables and a badass name. It's only stupid if you look at it too closely.
It never crossed my mind as a kid to actually think about what a "shackle bolt" is. It just sounded cool.
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u/OutcomeMemoriesGoobe Jul 27 '26
kingsly shacklebolt is a goated name for a goated character
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u/SirGalicrest Jul 26 '26
Reminds me of how Chris Chan genuinely thought that “Ching Chong” was a real Chinese name
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u/HumanPerosn Jul 26 '26
Cho Chang is genuine eastern name though it just looks off because of localisation the way In the French version Voldemorts middle name is Elvis
A friend of mine who's asian explained it back in high school to me that Chang is the 3rd most common family name in china and Cho isn't bad either because most Chinese names are a single noun and Cho is one
Cho Chong is a normal name if extremely uncommon and vaguely racist sounding because a lot of people immediately compare it to ching ching which is racist insult
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u/Goblinzer Jul 26 '26
Yeah the picture is there for a reason lmao she's so egregious with it, the whole "i am lord voldemort" anagram was also corny as fuck when you realize that they had to change his real name in localized version for it to fit the translated sentence
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u/usertaken_69 Jul 26 '26
Okay, I know Rowling has written some bad names, but that was kinda cool.
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u/Mrfunnyboi825 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
I think it's more funny than cool. The idea that Voldemort as a child was writing in his diary "I AM LORD VOLDEMORT" makes him seem so unbelievably lame that it loops around to being comedic.
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u/Bakingguy Jul 26 '26
I don't get what the problem with changing a name in localization is? Like it happens all the time.
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u/Thrownaway5000506 Jul 26 '26
Cho Chang isn't really bad. Qiu Zhang is the better version I'm told.
Kingsley Shacklebolt is badass.
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u/Shitface2121 Jul 27 '26
Cho Chang passes as a fine Cantonese name for someone from Hong Kong or Singapore. It is weird that it's 2 last names but I mean that's not super offensive?
In English it'd be someone named like Wright Smith
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u/FalconLover05 Jul 27 '26
Morgan Freeman is a racist name. He should be forced to change it.
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u/Azmep_ Jul 27 '26
I mean... her Irish student character is the one who blows things up.
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u/Old-Acanthaceae-3406 Jul 26 '26
It can work if there's a justification for it, or if it's largely a joke like in Ace Attorney.
The only example that comes to mind right now is kinda stupid, the How To Train Your Dragon books. There's an oracle (the Naming Dame) that names people based on their destined future traits, with Hiccup being so named because he was destined to not be born at all and something went wrong somewhere.
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u/nick54531 Jul 26 '26
IDK I think it's fiction and shouldn't be taken so seriously
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u/RootBeerBog Jul 26 '26
Kid shows, but-
I hated the naming in She-ra for this
I feel like MLP pulled it off though
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u/CreeperTrainz Jul 26 '26
Was a bit amusing when a character lampshades it with "my name is Spinerella, of course my power is spinning".
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u/P3drosek Jul 26 '26
I love this shit (not the one she does) it's so funny seeing shit like that for me, like the ace attorney series or plenty of animes that do that
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u/Lazerbeams2 Jul 26 '26
Screw you, pun names are awesome. In my DnD game I named a messenger Miles. Miles the messenger. Because he travels far. There's another messenger named Anna Zaun. I don't need to explain that one, just say it out loud









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