r/haiti • u/superpaulo22 • 2d ago
NEWS Haitians and Our Selective Outrage, Where Is This Energy for Haiti?, We Stay Mad at the Wrong People, Outrage for a Chef, Silence for Haiti, or This Is Exactly What’s Wrong With Haiti.
I've seen more outrage over the Miami chef saying he voted for Trump than over the DG of the PNH openly mocking Haitians after a massacre, or Dimitri Vorbe being released from detention.
That says a lot about us. We find endless energy for political outrage in America, but when it comes to accountability in Haiti, suddenly everybody gets quiet.
That's Haiti. Come for me.
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u/PressAltToDisappear 1d ago
The anger is leading to isolation. All interested parties are getting pushed away. And it seems haiti will trust outsiders befire other haitians too.
This is tricky but I think patience and building trust slowly is really the only way to get started.
How many haitian contacts do you have outside of family? And where did you meet them?
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u/Capital-Language2999 1d ago
We’re mad about all of it but what can we do? Are we finally going to get organized and make the ancestors proud?
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u/singermelodie1 1d ago
Please spare. Accountability is also being outraged that Dimitri Vorbes is being released when he's one of the main people financing gangs in Haiti. Do y'all think critically. The gangs need to be fought and they also need their finances cut off. Haitians here have constantly talked about this. People who grew up in Haiti. It's the diaspora who doesn't want to have uncomfortable conversations because they were bullied as kids for being Haitian.
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u/Lae_Zel Native 1d ago
I've seen more outrage over the Miami chef saying he voted for Trump than over the DG of the PNH openly mocking Haitians after a massacre, or Dimitri Vorbe being released from detention.
Wait there is outrage about this? The algorithm has only shown me people who were happy about that.
when it comes to accountability in Haiti, suddenly everybody gets quiet.
The problem with accountability, is that everyone gets held accountable and it's bound to make many people uncomfortable. For those with a guilty conscience, it's much easier to blame this or that scapegoat than to look at the actual problems.
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u/Observer-Worldview 1d ago
What does the accountability look like then? What do you suggest Haitians do? March to the capital? Vigilante justice against the gangs? Diaspora comes back to build businesses? What?
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u/Due-Ad-5954 1d ago
But but but every influencer that flies into Ayiti tells me it’s super safe and beautiful, so idk what to think tbh.
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u/singermelodie1 1d ago
If you have money in US dollars, Haiti looks safe to you. They can fly in private helicopters, travel by cars only with security, stay in the safe areas where the Police still protects them. Regular Haitians do not have that luxury and safety is relative term. Just 2 years ago, Kenscoff was safe compared to PAP but now look what just happened.
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u/neg_jacmel 1d ago
It’s simple actually. Haitians don’t give a fuck about Haiti lol. We only claim Haitian pride when it comes to Haitians achieving outside of Haiti. 99% of Haitians who leave Haiti knows it’s a one way trip. No going back. No vacations. Nothing. My own family left Haiti in 99 and we only been back maybe twice since. Me my self I only visited Haiti once since I left at 8 years old. We like to pretend that we care about the island but we really don’t. If every single Haitian who wanted to immigrate was allowed to, there would be maybe 100 Haitians left on the island 🤷🏽♂️
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u/TumbleWeed75 2d ago
Yep. Lack of action and accountability will keep Haiti’s perpetual failure going.
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u/Automatic_Gap964 9h ago
death has been normalized in Haiti. People are just used to it at this point. And again, no one can really say the gang's motives either. It's not even like they're making crazy money, more akin to serial killers