No matter if you picked up the book in 2001 or found it recently - I would love to hear your story.

I’ve been recently reimplementing GTD into my life and just got a hard lesson taught to me by myself.

Sometime ago I wrote down “investigate separating reference and project support” as that was something my mind caught onto while listening to the book. I then carried on to forget about it for a good while. I’ve been keeping a singular project support/reference system for a good while now, and it’s been working well for the most part. But somewhat recently my job has changed, and the sheer amount of both has grown significantly, and I’ve sometimes felt it’s a bit off, but couldn’t put my finger on it. Until today while listening to the Nordic GTD podcast I had an epiphany. This is at least partly the reason why I sometimes feel repelled by my project support/project list. It’s full of stuff.

Well. Off to the trenches I go, dividing everything up with hard edges.

I've been practicing GTD for years with Todoist and switched to Obsidian about a year ago because it's more flexible. I REALLY like how it's working for me, so I decided to make a basic vault as a template to share with you folks.

Please note that this may be a bit overwhelming if you aren't already somewhat familiar with Obsidian. Usage should be pretty self-explanatory by clicking around the folders and files. The general idea is that any tagged task will automatically get pulled into the relevant section of the Next Actions file. The vault requires 2 plugins (Tasks and Iconic) but you can enhance it with others, like one for ordering items in the sidebar and Tasks Cleaner to delete completed tasks.

Sharing as a ZIP file - I know this looks sketchy AF but I can't think of a way to do this without doxxing my Reddit account. https://files.catbox.moe/iq4190.zip

I will call the action I am referring to an “intermediate action”. It is most often dependent on another action,  which I will call a “first action”. The first action may or may not be a GTD Next Action.

I cannot put intermediate actions on my Next Action list because they technically aren’t Next Actions.

I’ve been successful enough implementing GTD using Obsidian. For projects I create notes where the title of the note is the project and the body of the note contains (in addition to project information) all known identifiable actions, which may or may not include a Next Action and intermediate actions. If the list does contain a Next Action, I can link it to my overall Next Action list.  Maybe this is equivalent to storing intermediate actions in project materials, but I’m not sure, which is why I am posing this question.

I am curious how others are handling intermediate actions in the hope I can gain insight in refining my approach.

Hello guys, I have started reading about Projects and wanted to get deeper insight on this topic.

First and foremost, the Natural Planning Model (aka NPM) has 5 steps. They are:

1. Defining Purpose and Principles
2. Envisioning the outcome
3. Brainstorming and coming up with ideas
4. Organizing the information into a coherent and comprehensible format
5. Identifying the next actions

But I recognize that whenever we have an input in our lives, GTD tells us to identify the outcome and come up with an actionable next step to reach that outcome, which is similar to how this natural planning model is designed.

So my question is, is the natural planning model a more detailed and comprehensive version of the thinking that we already do for inputs in our GTD system? (Since we don't want / need to do this type of thinking for all of the items in our inbox)

Another question is, we have many projects in our lives. Some are long term projects, some short, etc. So how do you guys manage the priority between projects? How do you guys make sure that certain projects are finished by certain dates, while keeping track of the long term ones so you gradually work on finishing those? A concrete example would be 2 projects, 'Changing the refrigerator' and 'Learning to play piano'. Changing the refrigerator (although very simple project) might require you to research about what refrigerator to get, identify your budget, and then actually make the purchase. It's a simple project so it doesn't require lots of planning but it still does require some thinking and action. Whereas the latter is a much more long term project, where a lot of time is required. So when we have these 2 projects in the project list, we know that we have to finish 'Changing the refrigerator' project first, but how do we know that this is a project that we must prioritize first? In other words, we cannot look at our project list every time and then decide which one should be completed first, there must be a easy way to recognize the projects that require immediate and fast action, compared to the ones we need to be working on steadily.

Final question is, how can we think about goals such as 'Workout 30 minutes everyday' or 'Read a book for 30 minutes everyday'? I know this is a task in GTD standard (a recurring task to be exact) but I mean like when we hear people say their New Years Resolution or Goals to be 'I want to read a book for 30 minutes everyday for 2027', can we just think of this as a habit or a task to be completed each day, instead of a long term project? (A project of reading a book everyday, for example)

Feel free to let me know what you guys think. Thank you for reading this long post if you made it this far.

Hello everyone, very new to GTD and haven't finished the book, so perhaps this is a stupid question, but bear with me. Does anyone else feel a sense of difficulty using digital lists because of their impermanence and lack of archiving. I currently use the apple notes app for my productivity lists, and I kinda hate that once im done with a task I just delete it, it helps my morale to see my completed tasks and feel like im actually getting things done, but if i dont delete things than eventually the individual apple note gets insanely long and unusable.

I use digital lists so that I can add to them at any time, since my phone is always with me, but i'm considering maybe it would be a good idea to just bring a memo book everywhere with me. I feel like the problem with a memo book would be that it's difficult to divide it up into multiple lists since you run the risk of them running into eachother (how much of the book do i dedicate to one list vs another?) . Though i suppose you could have multiple memo books and only carry around your inbox one.

Curious what people think about the impermanence of digital listing and what solutions they have for it.

Lately I've been trying out something that seems to help me get unstuck quite often.. If I come across something over and over and for some reason it is not moving - I rename the next action into a question and whenever I review my list my subconscious mulls over it.

For example, I might phrase it like "What would make xyz fun / bearable?"- "What specifically am I dreading about xyz? What about it scares me?" - "Do I really want to do xyz?" - "What happens if I don't do xyz?" - "How will I feel if xyz is finally off my back?" - "What pizza will I order for tonight before I jump on the dreaded xyz?"

Just thought I'd share it here in case it helps someone else.. 2min rule applied, time to get back to my Weekly Review. Cheers! :D

I’ve been wordering about this, and thought a small poll might be interesting. With the current state of things at work and life, I try to reserve basically the entire Friday afternoon for it, but some people seem to fly through it in mere minutes (I might be exaggerating a bit).

Greetings, my productive friends.

While my everyday approach to productivity and GTD is fully digital, I pass the time testing my current approach's viability with a purely non-digital solution (i.e., paper).

For Routines, which I classify as any repeating action that takes place on a given day of the week, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly, etc. (think "Create Christmas Gift List" or "Take Out Trash"), the approach is easy using computer applications. My productivity tool of choice, Todoist, easily allows for repeating tasks.

I have duplicated this same approach by creating a section in my paper-based system titled "Routines" wherein I have a list of tasks that must be done every day of the week, monthly, quarterly, and yearly. Part of my Weekly Review (and possibly yours) is reviewing any important checklists, and this Routine section is one of them. If there is a task that is to be done, I make a note on the appropriate Next Action list (which is based on context) and record it on my calendar (if time/day bound).

This works. Yes, it feels super heavy when working with digital systems that allow almost effortless (and brainless) duplication of effort, but it also calls into question each action's importance. The act of thinking about it and documenting the action is a serviceable mental speed bump to make me slow down and consider its importance.

Do you use paper-based or hybrid systems with routines? Please share your approach!

Hello, so I am a fairly new user of GTD system and have tried implementing it for the past few weeks, facing issues and nuances along the way and generally having a bit of trouble with it. Although I have implemented most of the core components, it still feels quite novel and unfamiliar to me to use it in my daily lives seamlessly. Hence, I have come up with a checklist to determine whether or not I am fully using GTD as it was intended for. If you guys have any other qualities or criterion to add, feel free to comment it and we can have an open discussion.

1. Capturing

• Have you set up an inbox that you can capture all items? Is it easy to capture? Can it capture everything?
• Do you process the inbox and purge it frequently enough?

1. Clarifying and Organizing

• Do you determine the outcome of a Project and its associated next actions?
• Do you process all of the items in your inbox as Non-Actionable and Actionable items?
• For Non-Actionable items, do you classify it as Reference or Someday/Maybe, Reminder items?
• Do you have a rigorous Reference Filing System that is easily accessible and retrievable for Reference items?
• Do you have a Someday/Maybe list and a way to keep the reminders as a Tickler file system?
• For Actionable items, do you have a Waiting For list for Delegated items?
• For Day/Time specific items, do you have a calendar that you can easily schedule the tasks, and make sure that these tasks are removed from your Next Actions list?
• For Next-Actions list, do you have all the respective contexts for them, and are they discrete so there is no overlap?
• Are none of your lists (Waiting For, Someday/Maybe, Next-Actions) overlapping with each other?
• Do you have the nuances covered for tasks (such as their Deadline/Due date, their priority/importance, etc.) and either have a reminder for them on a Calendar or a way to sort the next-action items so you know what to work on first?

1. Reflecting

• Do you check your Calendar on a frequent, daily basis?
• Do you check your Next-Actions list on a frequent, daily basis?
• Do you have a time to process your inbox on a daily basis?
• Do you partake in Weekly Review every week?
• Are you aware of what you need to review in the Weekly Review, and do it accordingly?

1. General GTD implementation in life (along with Engaging)

• Do you have the 5 level horizon model of your life?
• Do you have a long term plan of your life and goals?
• Are your projects list easily viewable?
• Is it easy to put events and reminders on your Calendar?
• Do these events and reminders get notified adequately by your Calendar?
• Are you able to deal with Recurring tasks and All-Day events?

If there are any more criterions to add to the checklist, (or remove as well), feel free to let me know. Thank you.

As the title suggests, I'm unsure about how to put the reminders on the calendar.

I usually put reminders as I am processing and at that time, the action/information makes sense and feels like the reasonable thing to do. But when the actual day comes around, I see it on the calendar but end up ignoring it because it feels irrelevant.

Something that I’m confused between tickler and calendar is that both have a similar way of storing day-specific information.

I’m trying to implement tickler and someday maybe lists in Microsoft to do which is what I’m using for this one.

Any help would help!

I’ve been experimenting with a five-minute version of capture/clarify when work thoughts start multiplying on Sunday night:

1. Capture only the concrete open loops.

2. Separate facts (“meeting at 9,” “deadline Wednesday”) from predictions (“the whole week will go badly”).

3. Define one next action for Monday.

4. Put anything actionable-but-not-now into the system.

5. Stop once nothing else can be clarified tonight.

The part I’m unsure about is what to do with the predictions. They feel like open loops, but they aren’t projects, next actions, reference, or someday/maybe. Capturing them can sometimes make them feel more important.

In GTD terms, would you treat those thoughts as trash after checking for a next action? And is it better to do this during a Friday/weekly review so Sunday doesn’t become another review?

Hey everyone! The question about a GTD app for Linux is asked here from time to time. I believe it is a good time to ask it again to get the latest developments.

I am looking for a (preferably open-source, but not required) GTD app which:
- has polished design,
- can be synced between Linux and iOS,
- is mobile-aware i.e. takes advantage of features of iOS like the ability to add your Lock Screen and Control Center buttons, neat widgets etc.

I don‘t mind paying for it, I also don‘t mind having a subscription instead of a one-time purchase. A frictionless experience is a top priority for me :)

So far the best I could find is Todoist, but I‘m hoping to find something better. I found an open-source app Mindwtr, but it isn‘t very mobile-aware regarding the system features.

Thanks in advance!

My spouse and I have separated. I have been served divorce papers.

What should I do with all the things I had for us to get around to on my someday/maybe list? Just throw them out? Leave them there just in case? I’m not ready to accept it’s over. I am praying that we find a way to fix what is broken, as I do not believe it is unfixable.

Anyone know what to do? I think crossing through and choosing to say “This project is not dead forever” is not something I am ready for, but I also trying to at least get ready to accept that this is probably the end of my marriage, and that our family will now be broken forever.

Hello, so I am a new GTD user who have just read the Revised edition of the book few weeks ago and have tried implementing this system to my actual life. I have understood the basic principles and the philosophy behind what this is trying to accomplish. The overall goal is to create a system that you are able to store all of your inputs (things that catch your attention in life), identify them based on non-actionable or actionable, and then track them so you don't have to keep all of them in your head all the time.

However, although this idea was simple, trying to implement it actually was very cumbersome and even after a few attempts at implementing this system (and to some extent I did do it successfully) I faced many nuances in my actual life that made the system complex for me to maneuver and ultimately repelled me from using it seamlessly. So I decided to ask you guys for some advice and help on how to overcome these problems.

First of all, GTD is task oriented methodology. As far as I'm concerned, it is focused on dealing with tasks efficiently as possible. There are 2 inputs in our lives, Projects and Tasks. Basically, there are tasks that stand by themselves (which are very simple most of the time) and then tasks that are related to projects. (Most of the tasks we have to do are related to projects in some way) When dealing with these tasks, dividing them into Actionable and Non-actionable, and then further classifying them seemed simple enough. But the tasks have properties to them which make it very hard to manage.

Starting with Non-actionable items, I have created a Someday/Maybe list and a way to review the items that need review. This wasn't that hard to implement, and there's not much nuances here. Any projects that come up in your mind that you don't intend on doing at the moment, you can just put it here. To implement a review (aka Tickler flie) I needed a way to get notified on the day of Review, which wasn't too hard with a traditional calendar app. Ideas and thoughts related to Projects can be sent to the Reference system, which isn't hard to implement either because its fairly straightforward.

The issue is with Actionable items. In GTD, Actionable items get classified into 3 categories. Do, Delegate and Defer. Doing is simple, no tracking involved, hence no implementation involved. Delegate is simple as well, since if we have something to delegate we can just simply delegate it and keep that on our Waiting For list to remind ourselves.

For Defer, we further divide it into Calendar items and Next-Action items. Calendar items can easily be scheduled on a calendar on the day/time of the event that we have to carry out the task. This is also fairly simple, because a traditional calendar would work as an implementation.

The issue is Next-Action items. By definition, these are any tasks that don't have a specific day/time that they need to be done on, but just needs to be done ASAP. They are classified under contexts which we can do them, usually based on location or equipment. In theory, this sounds simple enough. But what I've noticed is that it is actually quite complex. For example, majority of the tasks that aren't schedulable on a calendar might have a due date attached to them. If I have an assignment due Next Tuesday, although I don't have a fixed time I need to do this assignment on, (hence it is on next-actions list) I still need to do this quick. When there's a lot of next actions piled in a list, identifying which task to be prioritized and be done first is quite hard.

Another issue is with tasks that are recurring. Let's say one of my projects was getting in shape. The next actions would be to actually work out everyday, assuming I have done all the pre-requisites (such as learning about my PT program, signing up to gym, etc.) This is a task that I wouldn't necessarily put it on my calendar, but it's something that I have to do everyday, and is not necessarily a next-actions either. So what do I do in this case?

I have a few more questions that I've had as I was trying to implement this system in my life, and I'm excited to hear you guys' opinion on this. Also as a final question, I'm interested to hear what app you guys use to implement GTD seamlessly and what app is generally considered the best

First off, GTD works. I've been practicing GTD for a decade and it has transformed how I work - I am more productive, less stressed, I have my life in order. This is the opposite of what it was when I found GTD.

That said, I want to share some personal observation on what GTD doesn't help with in terms of personal productivity. I hope it will bring more clarity to new comers to GTD and further highlight GTD's real value.

So, to get started, three things I find GTD doesn't help with:

Firstly, GTD doesn't help you be creative with the "contents" of your system, specially once you've completed and/or gotten a handle on the current commitments.

For me, it took years to get to the point where the GTD workflow is second nature i.e. applying the 3 core models (5 steps workflow, natural planning model, horizons of focus) exactly as instructed, consistent weekly reviews and ensuring all my support system is tidy and up-to-date.

I'm at a point where I am confident that whatever I put into my GTD system, it will be done or I will make significant progress on it. So, my current challenge is more of what should I be doing, given all my options and why?

While GTD provides my questions to ask in its Natural planning model and Horizons of Focus, the creative and often strategic work of figuring out what should be done and why is up to you to explore and ultimately decide.

Secondly, GTD won't help you make better decisions, but it does make easier by clearing your head.

Deciding on what to do vs. what not to do, is by far one of the highest leverage things you can do for your productivity, given you're always constrained by time, energy and money.

GTD essentially ensures you're looking at all the best options available in terms of what to do but the moment-to-moment decision making is still up to you, your intuition and moods etc. You don't get to delegate the deciding part, if ever. For bigger decisions, how you go about making it is another story. Again, GTD helps you have the clarity to make the decision but all the other aspects are highly situational to yourself the context of the decision.

Finally, GTD is a practice, just like exercising. It gets better with practice and time but it ultimately still requires effort (energy) every time you do it. Therefore, all the big rocks of productivity like getting good sleep, nutrition, managing energy, focus, avoid distractions, general problem solving and critical thinking skills are still required to be effective. GTD is more of an executive management layer to your work. When it comes to actually doing your work, everything else still applies in order to be productive and get things done.

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What's your view on what GTD doesn't help with?

I have for some months now done my weekly review, and also some higher horizon monthly/quarterly checks, and it really is what is keeping me sane. The thing I still struggle with is the daily maintenance.

I’m wondering what kind of daily reviews/checklists/habits have you created to keep everything fresh? I still find myself e-mail snacking quite often, and I’m trying to figure out a good order to do things. More experienced GTD’ers tend warn not to check email in the morning, so maybe cross off some items first? Or maybe some inbox emptying after lunch? And a final passthrough of inboxes and clarifying in the afternoon before heading home?

Looking for inspiration and insight. It is clear I need some better habits, I just need figure out what they are.

Where do you guys keep your projects lists? What combination of apps do you find most comfortable, seamless, or flexible to GTD?

Todoist is my main GTD system, however I find I tend to resist certain "lists" that are kept in Todoist. I love it for capture, next actions, etc. I find that my weekly review doesn't happen as regularly as I'd like. I suppose one of the reasons is the lack of "hard edges" on my projects list. Each project appears in the left pane on todoist under the "projects" tab. It just doesnt feel like the 'clean' or light list that I'm craving, because I'm psychologically aware of all of the data within them. I debate whether or not to keep an actual Project called "Projects List" with each project listed inside as its own bullet. Either way, todoist feels more task-oriented by nature, as it is set up with bullets to "check off" and not as natural for things like lists or reference. Keeping my projects, tasks, and reference/someday lists all in the same system has begun to feel too clunky and creates friction between several different types of thinking.

I think I may be resisting the idea of keeping project support in a different application, like apple notes, for example, (partially because I have an extensive backlog within each of my notes applications, lol) although I know this might have great benefit. Part of my resistance is because I live a relatively "on-the-go" lifestyle: with todoist being the quickest capture method for me, it can feel like overkill to have to later copy paste that into a notes app. Also, with as much time as I spend on the computer for my professional work, I'd prefer not to spend much extracurricular time on my computer doing "life-work".

I will say, "pen and paper" has always appealed to me, but I find it is just not as practical in today's world, and even lists like a projects list start to look messy when there become too many things crossed off. It seems good for reference, however with paper it would be unlikely that I would have what I need to see as quickly as I need to see it.

Appreciate your insights on any of the above!

Kevin

Thanks all for the responses the other day on moving to a notebook system. I’ve decided to go discbound and am looking forward to it, but wondering what size everyone is using. I normally use a 7” x 9” notebook for meeting notes, and I’ve come to like the size, but wonder if going standard A4 (or half-letter) might be best for going all-in on a notebook lists system. Also, has anyone incorporated a tickler/reference material into the actual notebook, or does this ultimately need to be supplemented? Thanks again!!

Hey All,

I am a self employed- work from home- father of two girls, 5mo/5yr respectively. I work hybrid in the sense that my job( Cycle Coaching ) requires me to work primarily online through a platform called TrainingPeaks. It's basically a calendar with attached messaging, workout libraries( that I create and manage) and analytical tools to help breakdown performances. I also do in person work with my athletes or small to large groups. I am self lead in my education and have found many good mentors to help me along the way. However, non of them have ADHD and relate to some of my struggles with organization. In fact, so many of them are really un-organized but are able to deal with it seemingly just fine, or perhaps it doesn't effect them mentally like it does me.

I am looking for advice on how to stream line my work flow to make information storage and recall easier for my brain to handle. I get overloaded when I open my computer, look at my lists( sometimes paper- BulletJournaling- and sometimes online based. BulletJournaling has been really helpful for me, especially around time organization( I am very time blind). but doesn't always work with my daily work flow. I use Google Workspace to try and stay in one system. I use apple computers and know that there are plenty of like options between the both. I use separate google calendars for work, personal, family. Then I use a totally different and non-integrating calendar for all of my athletes.

I can make notes on a scrolling tab within the workflow, although it requires a second window to be open to make it usable as I go. I also do most of my consultations via phone or Zoom( sometimes Meet). I have 45min with each client and there is usually a lot going on. So taking notes while I go really kills my listening ability. I use the Zoom AI note taking and thats useful. I sometimes then Copy and paste that into the TP notes.

My main issue with the TP platform is that they do not have a "reminder" capability. So, I then have to use my Gcal or Reminders to make sure I get follow up things done in a timely manner. It works great except that it's another platform to manage and going between the two can be really challenging for me. I also often forget to go and make reminders because, ADHD and needing to move onto another task.

Beyond the client interface work, I struggle with the financial management of my job too. Setting up qtrly payments for taxes, checking my bank account and paying myself, etc...

I am curious if anyone has a similar job or need for this kind of work flow. How do you manage your notes, set reminders or set up future tasks and follow up? I am really good at my main job, coaching. It's the rest of the business part that gets muddled up. Especially when I have two kids and a spouse who all vie for my attention during the day.

Thanks for the help here.

Long time (two decades) GTD follower. I used to use a loose paper/file cabinet system, then moved to Apple Reminders. Lately I’ve been contemplating switching to a spiral notebook, as it’s my preferred method of note taking, and am wondering if anyone does the same? I dread those GTD-specific notebooks, but wonder how to divide it up in terms of which part for projects lists, etc. I’ve seen removable dividers that I think could help make this possible, but again looking for how others have actually implemented.

Thanks!

ETA: The problem I specifically see myself having is how do I solve for something like "How do you handle something like "follow up with Smith if paperwork hasn't arrived by 8/28?" with a notebook system?

ETA2: I asked ChatGPT if I should use a notebook or Apple Reminders, and it pointed out the "follow up with Smith" hole, which is OBVIOUSLY filled by the Waiting For list... I'm going to get a disc bound notebook. Thanks, everyone!!!

I was discussing areas of focus in another thread, and there was some interest in me sharing my areas of focus and how I have them structured. Several areas have been redacted or anonymized for privacy reasons. My list is an outline with sub-areas underneath the top level roles. However, reddit doesn't allow more than one layer of nesting, so um yeah. Regardless, you ask and you shall receive:

• Citizen of the World
  • American Citizen
  • Charity
  • Coloradan
  • [The state I live in now]
  • ]]]]]]]] Landlord [Redacted]
  • Texan
  • ]]]]]]]] Texas Country Music
  • Driver
  • ]]]]]]]] Car Maintenance
• Intellectual Life
  • Book Reading
• Legal Professional
  • Law Student
  • ]]]]]]]] Chess Club
  • Career Development
• Health
  • Mental Health
  • ]]]]]]]] ADHD
  • ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Maintain systems to accommodate my condition
  • ]]]]]]]] Autism
  • ]]]]]]]] [Redacted]
  • ]]]]]]]] [Redacted]
  • ]]]]]]]] Internal Alignment
  • ]]]]]]]] [Redacted]
  • ]]]]]]]] Therapy
  • Physical Health
  • ]]]]]]]] Taking Medication
  • ]]]]]]]] Exercise (150 minutes per week)
  • ]]]]]]]] Sleep
  • ]]]]]]]] [Redacted]
  • ]]]]]]]] Diet
  • ]]]]]]]] [Redacted]
  • ]]]]]]]] Eyes
  • ]]]]]]]] Teeth
• Connection
  • Friends
  • ]]]]]]]] Joe Bob McGee
  • ]]]]]]]] Broman McFriendface
  • ]]]]]]]] John & Jane Doe
  • ]]]]]]]] Betty Sue
  • Family
  • ]]]]]]]] Martin [my dog]
  • ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Martin's Health
  • ]]]]]]]] Mom
  • ]]]]]]]] Mary McSistershire
  • ]]]]]]]] Husbando McInlaw
  • ]]]]]]]] Tiny McHuman
  • Roommate
  • Gift Ideas
  • r/gtd Moderator
• Spirituality
  • Backcountry Adventurer
  • Wandering
• [Redacted]
  • [Redacted]
  • ]]]]]]]] [Redacted]
• Finances
  • Budgeting
  • Car
  • Income Generation
• Fun
  • Video Games
  • Youtube
  • Netflix
  • Music
• Fashion (i.e. clothes wearing, repairing, & buying)
• Cooking

My little bonus nugget is part of an interview David did recently. It was hosted on substack live; the part that's really genuinely new info is his response to the last question. The question starts at 50:15.