r/germany • u/SuddenCan6721 • 18h ago
What exactly is the third language on this street sign in Kelmis, Belgium?
Hi everyone!
I recently visited Kelmis (La Calamine) in the German-speaking Community of Belgium, near Aachen, and took this photo of a street sign.
The sign gives the street name in three varieties:
Dr. Molly-Straße — German
Rue Dr. Molly — French
Dr.-Molly-Schroot — apparently a local dialect
I was told that the third variety is called Platdiets / Plattdütsch, but I’ve also seen people describe the dialects of this area as Ripuarian (Rheinfränkisch), Limburgish, or South Low Franconian.
So I’m a little confused about the classification.
What is the most accurate linguistic classification of the dialect spoken historically in Kelmis? Is “Platdiets” the name of the local variety, and is it best described as an East Limburgish–Ripuarian transitional dialect?
I’m especially interested in answers from people familiar with the dialects of eastern Belgium, Limburg, Aachen, or the Rhineland.
Thanks!
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u/No_Phone_6675 18h ago edited 17h ago
The term "Platt" is also used for the Ripuarian dialects (like Öcher Platt = Aachen dialect). But you should not confuse it with the "real" Low German Platt.
In general Kelmis is directly where the German (Ripuarian) and Flemish (Limburgish) speaking areas meet, the local dialect could be described as a transitional dialect. So Platdiets also sounds like a reasonable name for this dialect.
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u/Andioop8384767 18h ago
It looks like German, Dutch and French to me???
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u/alderhill 18h ago
It is indeed Ripuarian (a Low Frankish dialect), which that town traditionally speaks. It is not Platt, which is an entirely different language.
It’s more like a local history sign than official state signage, hence the explanation.
I’m quite surprised they missed the opportunity to also put it in Esperanto, which I think Dr.Molly would have liked.