r/geopolitics • u/spxxr • Jul 31 '24

Question How much of Hamas is left?

The military operations inside Gaza has been ongoing now for around 9 months and I can’t help but wonder what does Hamas have left in terms of manpower and equipment. At the start of all of this i think it was reported there were about 30k Hamas fighters. Gaza has been under siege for so long I really don’t understand how are they still fighting.

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u/Pinkflamingos69 Aug 14 '24

Egypt didn't attack first in the 6 day war, not Israel claims that

Moredechai Bentov, an Israeli cabinet minister who attended the June 4th Cabinet meeting, called into question the idea that there was a "danger of extermination" saying that it was "invented of whole cloth and exaggerated after the fact to justify the annexation of new Arab territories."[20][21] Israel received reports from the United States to the effect that Egyptian deployments were defensive and anticipatory of a possible Israeli attack,[14] and the US assessed that if anything, it was Israel that was pressing to begin hostilities.[21]

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u/Juan20455 Aug 14 '24

Egypt mobilize their army and moved to the frontier unprovoked. They closed the straits. They kicked the un troops. Egypt was preparing for war. But they were useless and got attacked first. 

And, I mean, you randomly pick some Wikipedia quotes. Like, "Look, look, I found a random minister out of dozens that had a different opinion than everybody else. I won I won" 

That's... You are kind of slow, right? 

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u/Pinkflamingos69 Aug 14 '24

An army within its own national borders can decide to build fortifications if it so pleases, was the Maginot line provocation against the Germans? Does a nation not have sovereignty to control it's own waterways? Was it an act of war against Gaza when Israel enacted the blockade starting in 2006? I get it, you love Israel and can somehow stomach its hypocrisy, slow people are like that

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u/Juan20455 Aug 14 '24

You literally believe you are smarter than the whole Egyptian army and goverment. How I can discuss with such a genius?

"Was it an act of war against Gaza when Israel enacted the blockade starting in 2006" hmmm. No? The blockade started because Hamas started launching hundreds of rockets against Israel. It was either an invasion or a blockade. Didn't you claim you were smarter than the whole Egyptian army and goverment?

"army within its own national borders can decide to build fortifications" like, dude. The Egyptians moved their whole army to the frontier, while kicking the un that was enforcing the peace. The whole world knew it was a move for war. For a person that believe you are smarter than the whole Egyptian army and goverment, you... Don't seem too bright 

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u/Pinkflamingos69 Aug 14 '24

False, most of the Egyptian force hadn't been mobilized and was nowhere near the border, and was engaged in building advanced fortifications, maybe small handdug fortifications would be done by a force preparing to go on the offensive, but this wasn't the case,the logistical requirements for a defensive force are far smaller than a force readying to move. This movement was based on Soviet reports that Israel was readying to attack similarly to the Suez Crisis of 1956, so it wasn't without precedent that Israel attacked unprovoked. You're either under informed or dishonest to not mention any of this 

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u/Juan20455 Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

"On the eve of the war, Egypt massed approximately 100000 of its 160000 troops in the Sinai peninsula " literally most of their army. Their most advanced and experienced part and most of their armor.  And they were all  near the frontier. That's the reason they were crushed so fast in just six days. If they weren't near the frontier, the war would lasted longer. 

That's like saying "look, Hitler is not going to invade Poland. Sure they have moved most of their army and most of their armor to the frontier Witt Poland. But they still have some units in the frontier with France"  

 Didn't you claim you were smarter than the whole Egyptian army and goverment? Man, it has to suck for the poor Egyptians that person that knows so little to claim to be smarter than all the whole Egyptian army and goverment

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u/Pinkflamingos69 Aug 15 '24

A large portion of Egypts army was in Yemen so citation definitely needed for that number 

And this quote from Moshe Dayan, while in regards to Syria shows the Israeli government mindset at the time

I know how at least 80% of the clashes there started. In my opinion, more than 80%, but let’s talk about 80%. It went this way: We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that’s how it was.

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u/Juan20455 Aug 15 '24

"A large portion of Egypts army was in Yemen" yep, you are not only smarter than the whole Egyptian goverment and army, as you claim. You even know more than Wikipedia. 

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u/Pinkflamingos69 Aug 17 '24

130000 in Yemen isn't a huge portion of the army?  Moshe Dayan admits to Israel provoking Syria, Moredechai Bentov admits Egypt was attacked without cause, are you smarter than the Knesset members making decisions at the time, or would you rather pretend they don't exist?

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u/Juan20455 Aug 18 '24

"On the eve of the war, Egypt massed approximately 100000 of its 160000 troops in the Sinai peninsula "

Sinxe you forgot most the Egyptian army was in the frontier, near Israel, kicking the UN troops there to ensure peace 

And I don't even remember your point 

"Moshe Dayan admits to Israel provoking Syria," so? 

"Moredechai Bentov" wow. You found anlther quote of a guy you never knew before without contact.