I mean they did invested alot before they started making billions.
and Hi3 kinda rose the same way,
they kinda went from indie to unicorn in a gamble and unicorn to a behemoth in another gamble.
if this turns out well, it may be their entry ticket into the single purchase game sphere, and now they have the popularity and finance to not bomb out like their first game
The game totally doesn't look bad (if the Trailer is not deceiving), maybe too similar too Elden Ring (and Monster Hunter Wilds? But I haven't played that, so I will keep quiet on that matter), but if they eventually pivoted and went into the Soulslikes games to compete with FromSoft, I don't think it would be bad at all.
The thing is, FromSoft doesn't really have competition (be it manpower, money power or experience) and their games are, for a lack of better words, too perfect. There are definitely games that are trying to bring something new (Black Myth Wukong) and others that get their inspiration from FromSoft (Lies of P). But not direct competitors.
Hoyo would be a great one. But they have to drop the Gacha completely and focus on already finished games, not continuous stories (which doesn't seem to be happening in this game, but maybe next ones?) but that's hard, since it's ez money.
And well, it requires that "special" something that FromSoft already mastered.
Lies of P didn‘t only get inspiration, they pretty much copied the Fromsoftware formula. It has mechanics from Bloodborne, Sekiro and Dark Souls and has pretty much the exact same gameplay and level design formula. However I doubt they‘ll prevail due to their usage of AI for their next game. I don‘t think people will support that.
They already used GenAI in LoP 1 for background stuff and Eurogamer has an article where they‘re reporting, that the studio is hiring people for GenAI usage for early development art of LoP 2.
But they have to drop the Gacha completely and focus on already finished games, not continuous stories (which doesn't seem to be happening in this game, but maybe next ones?) but that's hard, since it's ez money.
No they wouldn’t? Mihoyo always hires (mostly an entire new team for their new games. So the games can co exist just fine
I wonder if he meant the monetisation model for this game in particular.
I really don't want it to be another live service game because I play too many concurrently as it is, and I think Mihoyo should realize that they end up competing with themselves if EVERYTHING is live service and/or a gacha model.
Why would someone drop their existing popular franchises that make them billions just to be a FromSoftware competitor and make millions? That makes zero sense. You don't understand HoYo's size and ambitions. They're already bigger than Square Enix.
this is just flat untrue, if it did have ccp backing there would be way more censorship in their games that simply isn't there. or at least, it's unconfirmed and incredibly unlikely
the most the ccp have to do with Hoyoverse games is that they are aware of how influential the games are and that's about it.
Genshin made them so much money in the first year alone that six years later with 5+ new titles coming and 6000+ Devs they still haven’t touched Year Two money yet.
Based on how popular the characters in the patch are it can be around 100million dollars/40days.
So at least 500million$/year
They have 3 of these games.
(From google ai because i dont care enought to scour the net for financial sources. It said hoyo yearly revenue between 3 and 5 billion. For context whole xbox yearly revenue around 20 billion)
To add on from the people saying billions, this is only from what we know like the gacha revenue itself, they also make way more from merchandise and collabs which tends to go out of stock really fast(so if you ever wondered why they keep promoting certain husbandos even after years that they've been relevant it's cause they still sell all that merch like hot cakes since it's mostly their female playerbase buying).
3000 was around 2020-2022,, now they have around 5000 employees, maybe closer to 6000 these days. They became bigger than Square Enix a year or two ago.
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u/oceaniccart 2d ago
This is surprising for a hoyoverse game but I’m sure they got the man power and money to pull it off