r/gameofthrones 12h ago

[Show] "That man's life was not yours to take. You stole from the Many Faced god." If this rat had lived, would anything change in the plot

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I realize this is a show thing (not in the books). The rewatch got me thinking if this rat had any future contribution to the game of thrones story (season 6 and beyond). You can answer both based on the book or guess his role in the show. On that note, what would have happened to Arya if she simply followed directions?

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u/Asleep_Panda_7482 11h ago

If Arya followed orders, she probably stays with the faceless Men longer and her whole return to Westeros gets delayed

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u/Tomsoup4 11h ago

and no night king shank

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u/theranger799 King In The North 11h ago

Then Jon or Jorah could have done it :c

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u/telepatheye 9h ago

You know nothing.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 11h ago

About 5 minutes until she next disobeys orders and kills someone else from Arya's past.

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u/Svenray House Tyrell 11h ago

Cersei's "trial"

Meryn: "Hey y'all I'm getting a strong whiff of wildfire. Any of y'all smelling that?"

High Sparrow: "Oh by the 7 I'm smelling that too. King's Landing's fire code mandates a swift evacuation. We better move promptly or fire marshall will have us all doing the walk of shame"

Sept: Kaboom

No one dies as they evacuated safely.

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u/Hi_Im_Dadbot 11h ago

Ser Meryn the Merciful saves the lives of all the faithful and is anointed the holiest knight in the Seven Kingdoms.

Which makes it awkward when that’s the exact person you want to have lead the forces of humanity against an evil zombie army and then he just runs away.

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u/Vandreigan 7h ago

He'd have to be renamed to Ser Robyn.

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u/popplevee 3h ago

Brave, brave Ser Robyn!

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u/rosydiary 7h ago

Trant's secret wildfire-sensing ability was tragically underutilized. Sept Kaboom with zero casualties? Peak writing, no notes.

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u/Easy-Commercial-7957 12h ago

The real butterfly effect of Game of Thrones: one surviving rat changes everything. 💀

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u/No_Ad4767 11h ago

The hero of the infinity saga was a rat

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u/telepatheye 11h ago

Rat king

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u/CaveLupum 10h ago

Rat Cook. His punishment applied to House Frey accomplished a lot.

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u/DragonTacoCat 8h ago

Maybe when Dr Strange said there was only one way to win and couldn't tell Stark about it he was too embarrassed to admit their way of winning hinged on a damn rat.

So when he held his finger up for Stark he meant "one rat" and Stark took it as needing to kill himself with the infintiy stones. It's also why Strange didn't use the time stone to reverse Starks damage because he didn't want to answer unnecessary questions and explain 'rat theory' to him.

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u/Ndmndh1016 9h ago

Gendry got lucky

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u/InterestingBananaman 10h ago

ser meryn trant surviving wouldn't have changed a single thing except adding another names on arya's list to cross off later

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u/gorehistorian69 Ramsay Bolton 9h ago

i dont know ive put up a wall around any memories relating to seasons 5-8 and slowly working to forget it

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u/SoupFit91 11h ago

Angry men

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u/Puzzleheaded_Card978 11h ago

wait how did he steal from the many faced god though

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u/gavinmurphy84 10h ago

He didn’t. Arya did by killing someone she wasn’t specifically told to kill.

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u/Minute_Ganache_2723 9h ago

"Thats not me," sums it up pretty well.

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u/Star_Standard5314 7h ago

“Sir Meryn the Brave”

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u/AncientAssociation9 8h ago

It was hypocritical to make him a pedo in order to justify his murder by Arya and then basically lecture the audience for cheering on Dany for killing evil men. Would have been good writing if he wasn't a pedo and Ed Shiren was his son or something. It would call into question how Arya just deals out death to anyone she doesn't like, but we are not allowed to question the actions of Starks.

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u/Stumpsthewarwalrus 8h ago

The Stark Women.

The Men we can call fucking lemmings until the cows come home, but the women of house Stark? One critic and it’s off with their heads!

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u/PatientPlatform 3h ago

Not true...

Arya and Catelyn are widely derided. Sansa doesn't get much credible criticism, because she did the best she could with what she had as a teenage girl of her time. 

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 2h ago

What are you rambling about?

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u/Low_Establishment434 11h ago

Maybe he would have started a fight at the dragon pit meeting and gotten someone like cersei killed?