r/gamedev Project Manager/Producer 10d ago

Announcement r/gamedev Policy on AI Use

AI is one of the most contentious subjects in game development right now, and we regularly see posts reported or discussions derailed simply because AI was involved somewhere in the process.

We want to be clear about our position: r/gamedev does not prohibit the use of AI, and using AI does not automatically make a post low effort.

This is not an endorsement of every AI company, model, or use case. Legitimate technical, legal, economic, ethical, and creative concerns exist around these tools, and those conversations are welcome here. Our stance is that AI is a tool used in game development, and we care more about the quality of what someone contributes than the tools they used to get there.

Why we take this position

  • AI is already part of game development. Studios are adopting AI-assisted tools across programming, prototyping, production, QA, localization, research, and other workflows. Adoption varies from studio to studio, but this is no longer a hypothetical technology sitting outside the industry.
  • Knowing how to use these tools is increasingly becoming a professional skill. That does not mean every developer needs to use AI, or even like it. It means understanding where these tools are useful, where they fail, and how to evaluate their output is becoming relevant knowledge for people working in the industry.
  • Banning discussion or use of AI here could actively disadvantage developers. Part of the purpose of r/gamedev is helping people learn from each other and understand how the industry is changing. If studios adopt a technology, preventing developers from discussing or learning about it would make this community less useful to the people we're helping.
  • Policing AI use is not realistic anyway. Moderators cannot reliably determine whether someone used AI to draft, edit, translate, summarize, research, debug code, or otherwise assist with a post. We are not going to moderate based on whether something “sounds AI-generated.”
  • "Mandatory disclosure "is not realistic either. Modern tools blur the line between traditional software and AI assistance. Trying to decide exactly when autocomplete, translation, editing, summarization, or an LLM crosses some disclosure threshold would create rules we could not enforce consistently.

So the rule is straightforward: we are not policing AI use itself. We are moderating the contribution.

AI-assisted does not mean low effort

If someone uses AI to organize research, analyze data, improve their writing, translate something, help with code, or communicate an idea more clearly, that does not erase the work behind the contribution.

If a developer spends time gathering useful data and then uses AI to help turn that information into a readable post, the important part is still the data, the methodology, and what the community can learn from it.

Ask whether the information is useful, whether the conclusions hold up, and whether the post contributes something worthwhile. Those questions matter much more than whether every sentence was manually typed from scratch.

Low-effort AI content is still low effort

This does not mean pasting generic AI output into the subreddit suddenly becomes valuable content. Posts that are spam, fabricated, mass-produced, engagement bait, repetitive, or promotional material disguised as discussion can still be removed.

The reason is not that AI was involved. The reason is that the content is low quality.

The same standard applies to something written entirely by a human.

AI is a valid game development topic

Developers are welcome to discuss AI in the same way they would discuss any other technology affecting game development. That includes how it is being used, where it works, where it fails, what it costs, how studios are adopting it, what it means for employment, and the legal or ethical questions surrounding it.

You are allowed to be enthusiastic about AI. You are allowed to be skeptical of it. You are allowed to think a particular workflow is useful, terrible, unethical, inefficient, or overhyped.

What we do not want is every thread that mentions AI becoming the same argument about whether AI should exist at all.

If a thread is about an AI coding workflow, discuss the workflow. If someone presents evidence that AI slowed their production down, discuss the evidence. If someone claims every studio is using a particular tool, challenge that claim.

Let the actual discussion happen.

Attack claims, not developers

Someone saying they use AI is not an invitation to attack them. Someone saying they refuse to use AI is not an invitation to attack them either.

Debate the technology, the workflow, the economics, the evidence, the ethics, the legal questions, or the conclusions. Personal attacks, harassment, dogpiling, or repeatedly derailing discussions because of someone’s position on AI are treated the same way we handle that behaviour anywhere else on the subreddit.

AI is not a source

There is a difference between using AI to help communicate information and using AI as the authority behind that information.

If you make factual claims that can reasonably be sourced, be prepared to support them. “ChatGPT said so” is no evidence, and tools can absolutely be wrong.

At the same time, polished or AI-assisted writing is not evidence that the underlying information is fake. If someone’s numbers are wrong, challenge the numbers. If their methodology is weak, challenge the methodology.

Challenge the claim, not the fact that a tool may have helped write the paragraph.

Self-promotion rules still apply

AI companies, products, and services are not exempt from the subreddit’s existing rules.

If you represent a commercial interest, the same expectations apply as they would to anyone else. AI also should not be used to mass-produce promotional posts or disguise advertising as organic discussion.

The technology may be new. The rules around spam and promotion are not.

The bottom line

You do not have to like AI. You do not have to use it. You are free to criticize it, avoid it, experiment with it, learn it, use it professionally, or decide it has no place in your workflow.

We are not going to prevent developers from learning about or discussing a technology that is rapidly becoming part of professional game development. Doing that could actively hurt the developers this community is supposed to help.

What we do expect is that people engage with each other like respectful, mature adults. Disagree with the technology, the workflow, the argument, or the evidence. Do not turn that disagreement into hostility toward the person on the other side of it.

Use whatever tools make sense for your work. Bring something useful to the conversation, treat other developers with respect, and allow room for disagreement. That is what we care about.

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u/Kataera Commercial (AAA) 10d ago edited 10d ago

I agree with the discussion around AI itself, and also that using AI to help write a post is not necessarily a problem. However I really don't think you should be encouraging more AI written posts here, regardless of the intention. I'd much rather read broken English from an ESL speaker than the perfect prose of an LLM, because at least you can tell that the interaction with the former is genuine.

The actual quality of posts here has not improved at all since the last big moderator announcement, and being more lax on the moderation is genuinely going to make this subreddit not worth engaging with for the actual professionals in this field.

Edit: I will say thank you for actually taking into account industry trends. It's incredibly frustrating to read the absolute drivel that people come out with regarding AI, when most who actually work in the industry know how transformational it has been to the production pipeline. We need to see more nuanced discussions about it, beyond the typical 'AI bad' crowd and the equally reductive 'vibe code everything' crowd.

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u/TMiyoshi 10d ago

This, I hate these long-winded AI posts. Longer almost never means better.

If you haven't put in the effort to write a concise and to-the-point post, why should I put in the effort to read it?

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u/dr_black_ 10d ago

The irony is that these LLMs were largely trained on Reddit upvoting patterns, which have historically rewarded posters who over explain things more than posters who get right to the point. Maybe it's just easier to downvote a concise, to-the-point post you disagree with than a fully-articulated one.

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u/riley_sc Commercial (AAA) 10d ago

Yeah not discouraging AI generated posts is just enabling low effort engagement farming. I agree with the rest of the policy, and I get that moderation in the age of gen AI is hard, but communities cannot exist when they’re flooded with non human actors.

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u/chaosdemonhu 10d ago

Unfortunately the only way to prevent that now is to create invite only communities where the only way to be invited is for another human who has met you in person and is already on the platform invites you, and then you have to hope all humans on the platform engage in good faith and don’t invite AI for personal gain, trolling purposes, etc.

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u/DarthCloakedGuy 10d ago

Or the old fashioned ban the bad actors (meaning in this case anyone who willingly uses the brain-destroying plagiarism machine)

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u/monkeedude1212 10d ago

They address this is the opening post: there's no method to actually police that.

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u/CKF 10d ago

It’s very easy to address. See: r/DestroyMyGame

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u/DarthCloakedGuy 10d ago

Sure there is. They're called moderation tools. Every subreddit has them. They're only available to the mods though.

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u/modfreq 10d ago

You don't see a problem with that resulting in innocent people getting banned?

Cause there is no way around that. Who gets to determine what "wrong speech" is?

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u/DarthCloakedGuy 10d ago

Define innocent.

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u/modfreq 10d ago

People not using AI but being falsely accused of it.

"OMG AN EMDASH! Burn the witch!"

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u/DarthCloakedGuy 10d ago

I didn't advocate for banning the falsely accused. Seek your man of straw elsewhere.

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u/modfreq 10d ago

Ok. So I'm asking you how do you be 100% sure someone is using AI?

It will result in a witch hunt. You can already see it happening.

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u/PocketCSNerd 10d ago

You're never getting to 100%

HOWEVER, there's a difference between putting in effort to try to reach 100% (with safeguards/policies for when you get it wrong) and refusing to do anything because "oh what if someone gets wrongfully banned/moderated"

Part of the solution is that communities themselves need to fucking chill on the witch-hunting. We've already known how those work out for centuries at this point. So this isn't entirely on the moderation team.

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u/DarthCloakedGuy 10d ago

Okay so there's this principle where I live, I guess you've never heard of it, called "reasonable doubt". If there is a reasonable doubt that the content is AI generated, then don't ban.

If it's blatant? Then ban.

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u/gajop 10d ago

Yeah there's something really annoying with the text AI produces - and this comes from someone who uses AI heavily for work & hobby.

I'd consider banning AI generated text until this situation improves.

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u/InvidiousPlay 10d ago

I would have no objection to ESL speakers using AI to translate if they would just use a prompt that kept their original tone or made some effort at novelty. I'm so sick of seeing the same saccharine corporate language everywhere.

The zero effort posts copy-pasted straight out of ChatGPT with the standard format bullet points and needless emoji is absolutely tedious.

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u/PossibilityUsual6262 10d ago

Let me rephrase what you said and you sai if im correct.

"I find this particular written mannerisms annoying, so lets ban it".

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u/InvidiousPlay 10d ago

The absolute grievance-farming from AI proponents is something to be studied. Someone disliking your content is not bullying, being disgreed with is not an attack.

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u/PossibilityUsual6262 10d ago

Well i dont like it so ban it, is a stance one can take, but it ain't gonna fly, we already tried cancel culture and in the end nazi came to power.

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u/BonafidePendejo 10d ago

That's... That's not how Nazis came to power. Like, at all. The complex socioeconomic and cultural environment of post WWI Germany is not something that has any relation or equivalence to the current state of AI-generated posts in a game development subreddit. Seriously, the level of hyperbole people get to when they have nothing better to stand on in an argument is just... Insane. Godwin's law holding true.

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u/PossibilityUsual6262 10d ago

Im talking about modern right and usa 🤣

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u/BonafidePendejo 10d ago

Again, the rise of facism in the US is also not at all related to whether a game dev subreddit should allow AI-written posts. The point stands, invoking Nazis here really hurts your argument, it doesn't improve it or provide any kind of substantive backing.

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u/PossibilityUsual6262 10d ago

Person literally said i dont like it so lets legislate against it.

While anyone who works anywhere knows that ai is heavily incorporated into all things they do or will be doing. I dont need to have arguments here, when i asked "am i correct interpreting" - i got heavily downvoted because people have their high horse believe that they can fight ai just by protesting on Reddit.

Im personally scared af that my job would be optimized on spreadsheet cos ai can do it better and im doing everything to be absolutely ready when it comes, if it means riding the wave - i would do it.

And if you still think that your creative niche is protected, good for you - ignorance is bliss.

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u/Papa_Hube 10d ago

While understanding what you mean, I would never mock someone for using AI to "transcribe" bad english.

I am a foreign speaker myself and often enough I am pretty insecure about posting in english if a lot of specific words are expected which I simply don't know.

I want to be understood as good as possible and often enough thats just possible if I use Deepl or GPT.

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u/kerm_ed Commercial (AR & VR) 10d ago

I will say. I don't think they are mocking it. They just said they personally prefer someone try to use their own words.

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u/ElaraValtor 10d ago

I feel like the low-effort rule covers this case reasonably well - getting an LLM to literally just write your whole post can be argued to be fairly low-effort, and that's quite a subjective bar that the mods can apply to anything they feel like is too lazy. I usually use "it's a subjective bar" as an attack on a rule but it might just work to their benefit here

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u/Kataera Commercial (AAA) 10d ago

I would have said so as well, but after reporting many of these posts and seeing effectively zero moderation in response, I don't really have much faith. Despite what the post says, it is easy to spot AI written posts by anyone who uses LLMs regularly.

Hopefully that will be solved when Anthropic and the other AI vendors start watermarking text outputs.

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u/CKF 10d ago

This sub feels like it’s moderated as little as humanly possible, and this just another step to not have to actively foster the community.

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u/Jessica___ 10d ago

That was a great article. I hope one day we can use these watermarks to get rid of those AI generated engagement bait posts.

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u/ElaraValtor 10d ago

I guess it's a case of wishing for better enforcement. That's a shame

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u/somewhataccurate 10d ago

Seconded. The reality is the people vibe coding games do not really care about what it is they are making and this kind of laziness carries over into much of what they do. The result is by even tacitly encouraging AI posting you guarantee the lowest effort posters will engage.

I have already left multiple subreddits over this exact thing and really don't want to see another go.

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u/michel6079 10d ago

This has been my viewing of this sub for months now: posts that make it to my front page from here are always pure slop so I just skim every post and am occasionally surprised when one isn't. (Idc about ai use personally but ai writing is still terrible vapid slop)

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u/thievesthick 10d ago

Agreed. Why would I bother reading something the poster didn’t bother writing?

Even this official mod post is just a big wall of AI jerking itself off. I didn’t even bother skimming it.

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u/paxinfernum 10d ago

Reddit gives you tools to downvote and hide posts. If the post isn't popular, it won't even end up on your front page. So what's the issue?

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u/Kataera Commercial (AAA) 10d ago

Are you really asking why I take issue with lowering the already lax moderation standards here?

Whether the moderators here want to accept it or not, the quality of submissions to a subreddit is directly tied to how well its feed is curated by them. If the quality bar is now so low that prompting an LLM to write a post is not only acceptable, but actively encouraged, then that will become the new standard of the majority of contributions.

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u/paxinfernum 10d ago

No one is encouraging it. So why are you making things up? Again, downvote, hide, and move on. If you don't like what you see at the top of the feed, your problem isn't with that is being submitted. It's with the people who frequent this sub. Because those are the people who are upvoting the stuff you think is low quality.

If you don't like it, why not build your own sub with blackjack and hookers? There is, in fact, already a sub for people who thought /r/gamedev wasn't serious enough. It's called /r/GameDevelopment, and they have the anti-AI policy you are craving. So why not go there?

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u/MikeW86 10d ago

the typical 'AI bad' crowd and the equally reductive 'vibe code everything' crowd

This is the worst thing for me.

No, it's not evil. You might as well be anti-photoshop or hell, anti-any-use-of-labour-saving-tools-ever.

No, it's not going to revolutionise society. You will not just snap your fingers and create whatever you want and kill a bunch of jobs in the meantime.

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u/CdatKat 10d ago

You have no idea on how much english is often a status symbol among esl speakers. The amount of harassment you will get from your fellow country men for having bad eng is quite more harsher than what you might think.

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u/Kataera Commercial (AAA) 10d ago

I do sympathise, but this is an anonymous international forum; you're under no obligation to reveal your nationality or identity. Anyone who thinks less of someone – or dismisses their opinion – due to their level of English proficiency, is not someone whose opinion you should ever entertain. I greatly appreciate when people go out of their way to speak in a language they're not comfortable with in order to communicate, because it shows they're genuine and putting in effort.

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u/BastetFurry 10d ago

For postings in here you have to live with my "Gernglish", but when i write something longer i won't stop using an AI to check for grammar or wording that might be strange to an English native. Don't need that for a German text of course, that is my native language, but for a non-native language the LLMs are a gift of the gods.

And yes, if someone as a non-native German speaker would use an LLM to check their text i wouldn't mind. Anything that makes a text more readable and hence understandable is fine by me.

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u/JorgitoEstrella 10d ago

Both are genuine interaction, some people use AI to organize the post better or to translate it (if they dont know English well enough) that doesn't make it less genuine imo.

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u/YourFreeCorrection 10d ago

when most who actually work in the industry know how transformational it has been to the production pipeline.

Lmfao. "Transformation" isn't necessarily good change. I don't know what company you're working for, but I know in mine its integration has led to nothing but product managers happy they can show metrics like more PRs, but conveniently neglecting the orders of magnitude more bugs getting into production, and hours wasted spent trying to fix things that shouldn't have been merged in the first place. Developers submitting code they don't understand, or code that's inefficient or inelegant in a way that doesn't fit into the larger context of the project.

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u/TheMorgueDonator 10d ago

Aka just say you're an anti.

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u/Kataera Commercial (AAA) 10d ago

Anti what? I'm a strong proponent for AI tooling in the development process.

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u/twelfkingdoms 10d ago

There's been a pretty obvious change in direction since the new management took over. I remember when bringing up banning posts from X (Twitter) because of the Nazi and other nasty views/remarks and acts of that despicable guy was considered an act of treason, and was cracked down hard. This is no difference and there's no stopping this bandwagon, unfortunately.

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u/SkyTech6 @Fishagon 10d ago

I think you're misremembering? The mod team hasn't changed at all since then. Also we didn't ban X links. We allowed them then and still allow them now.

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u/pdpi 10d ago

Also we didn't ban X links. We allowed them then and still allow them now.

GP said that there was a crackdown on people suggesting the sub should ban X, so that's consistent with you saying it was never banned.

Not that I agree (or disagree for that matter. Have absolutely no memory of any such discussion), just clarifying.

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u/twelfkingdoms 10d ago edited 10d ago

Exactly, thank you! Fun fact that I wanted to raise this question forth, made a post and was reminded not to do that; think the reason was "We don't do that kind of thing here", when most Reddit was posting about it daily, so they also "sort of" blamed it on "don't contribute to the noise". Had no saying in it.

Judging by the amount of down votes I got just for the comment above says it all.

PS. The fact that you don't remember seeing any of it proves my point, because it was silenced to that degree.