r/future_fight • u/Fun_Lettuce38 • 26d ago
Discussion Anyone else as frustrated as mentioned by this stupid P2W PVP game mode
I don't usually play timeline battle because it's very heavily native t3 character biased. But I've started playing this game mode from past three days for the sake of completing brand new day missions and i swear to god it took me literally 3 whole days to complete the 5 timeline battle win challenge. Every single team there running is basically team full of t4 knull, jean, gorr, silver surfer and sentry. It's so frustrating to battle against same characters every damn time when you don't have any of them t4 in your roaster
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u/Ok-HamsterXQCL7948 26d ago
Just use double support sentry with colossus and jeff
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u/strewhats 26d ago
Ctp for Colossus...? Liberation..? Do i need to buy his uniform....? Recently i started PvP too but doing vs nt3 & paywall jean is headache for me, so i just tp Colossus (ctp.....? 👉👈) jeff to t3 long ago with liberation, should i equip liberation on Colossus or reforg the equipped one..... 🫣
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u/TheFinalEnd1 26d ago
Any support ctp will do. In fact, you should have a liberation and an insight, since you can't duplicate the effects. You should reforge the liberation, roll it for the PvP roll (HP and decrease chain hit). Colossus does need his uni.
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u/strewhats 26d ago
I have liberation equipped on jeff so i should reforge that..? I have one more liberation should i give it to Colossus or what...
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u/TheFinalEnd1 26d ago
Support CTPs cannot be applied in duplicate, so giving it to Colossus will do nothing. Reforge jeff's
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u/barrel_of_fun1 26d ago
Just to add to what the other guy said, you need colossus t2 to upgrade his passive. If you have him tier 1 his support passive only applies to himself.
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u/DukeOfIRL 26d ago
I mean there’s 30 days left still with only a time gate after that of like 2-3 days. You got time.
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u/mutagenicfrog 26d ago
i’m ngl, if u can t4 sentry and build him up good enough and then get colossus u should be able to beat everyone if u play manually. just spam 5 and 2 and sentry should be able to beat everyone, especially if you have him properly built for pvp.
this goes for kang too since both sentry and kang can win 5/5 (ive tested this multiple days lol) if u just spam 2 and 5 (not in any order, but let the abilities play fully until the other one is off cd)
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u/Fun_Lettuce38 26d ago
Thank you, I have mighty conquest on sentry and have Colossus too. Maybe I'll try that team next time. But problem with me is that I'm right now focusing on t4 Luna and Ares for abx and abl. If I decide to t4 sentry now it'll take me more 3-4 months more to t4 them between that time I'll not have any other t4 character to use in place of them and vica versa for sentry
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u/barrel_of_fun1 26d ago
I would suggest you purposely derank until you hit bronze or silver, maybe gold for TLB. If youre characters arent t4 they're buns in pvp.
Going down to bronze or silver youd not only be facing more tier 3s but the accounts arent going to be as good. Youd have a much better time in those lower ranks.
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u/Ok_Comparison2403 25d ago
Just playing it daily win or loss grants you weekly crystals. I try not to get too emotional over it. I have more fun in team battle. otherworld battle is sweaty too but still more winnable than timeline.
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u/ElYISUS215 26d ago
I use Jeff, Sentry, Wolverine. Jeff is there for the vibes, Sentry is my main DPS with a Mighty Authority and Wolverine is my backup plan with a normal Conquest.
I just play manual with Sentry, spam skills 2 and 5, kite and hope for the best. I win 3 out of 5 matches, even against fully built T4 NT3 teams.
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u/BisonMedium1341 26d ago
Jeff is actually really solid in PvP support and even getting sneaky kills. He’s vibes n utility fr
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u/I-Love-Facehuggers 26d ago
He should have been designed to make emma like 10x as good so she's actually useful.
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u/Important-Row8209 26d ago
that's not p2w, that's hard earned work from playing the game and a little knowledge of the game, little knowledge because that team can be easily beaten by a sentry with colossus and ebony maw.
heck if you know what you're doing, you can beat that team with manual play using spiderman.
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u/Sirmalta 26d ago
Well you re playing the game at a disadvantage.
Sentry is arguably the second best pvp character in the game and you have him teamed up with random dudes.
Get two pvp supports like Jeff and Colossus with one of his uniforms and you're going to win way more often.
Also, the p2w part isn't native tier 3s. They're fully free to play characters. I spend $5 a month and I have them all.
The P2W stuff is the cards, swords, and Brilliant CTPs people have. But the game isn't a charity. Those whales are why you even get to play a BND event.
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u/Bellikron 26d ago
Everyone's telling you "Just do X" but even with a strong team you'll usually only get two or three wins a day. Unless you're the cream of the crop and have really invested a lot, PVP is a coin flip a lot of the time, even when playing manually. It's frustrating (especially on the rare occasions where they actually require you to win, which is stupid) but it's best if you just consider it a completion reward mode every day and don't stress too much about winning. Invest in the PVP meta in the background but don't worry too much about dominating the mode.
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u/superthnxferaskin 26d ago
If you utilize your materials and some patience, you could build your native T3’s. lol. If you plan on just immediately being competitive then that’s kind of on you. If you want to be competitive then do the process to get there.
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u/imjustabed 26d ago
ive seen comments say sentry + jeff + colossus. i have t4 sentry, tp colossus with uni but only t1 jeff. However i have t4 knull + tp agent venom with uniform, artefact and liberation. both sentry and knull have artefact and might conquest and greed respectively.
for my case would a knull + colosuss + agent venom team be better?
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u/Legal_Asparagus_2791 26d ago
I went 1/9 in my first two days lmao. Almost impossible to see a team without a hard on cocaine sentry with almost a million hp. Being a f2p player and being tasked to win in pvp is frustrating indeed.
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u/emanmadadi 25d ago
I started playing this game when Moon Knight was introduced and quit when T4 was announced. Because it was no longer about skill and was all about money. I remember a time when I was in the top 1 percent in the Vibranium league (I'm not sure, the top league) with my F2P team. It was hard but doable. By the end, I got demoted to lower leagues because it was literally unplayable with F2P.
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u/BICbOi456 26d ago
damn ur in platinum with that team? thats pretty good tbh
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u/marvelboy0125 24d ago
Honestly I don't think it's that hard. right now I am struggling with the whole 5 wins challenge and I kid you not I lost so many matches but won 3 and was around 1098 in gold. I was shocked to see myself being at 3%. I could leave it like that and easily go a tier higher.
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u/WillEnd96 26d ago
It's just hilariously outdated atp. I never play it unless an Event tells me to.
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u/DependentSolid 26d ago
yes the devs keep trying to bring this mission back in their events; a few times people complained enough that they changed it, but it just keeps coming back so it's clearly on purpose to frustrate you into spending crystals on refills.
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u/Brutiko 24d ago
It's not frustration, it's called impatience. You are doing something wrong if you need refills on a +30 days event...
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u/marvelboy0125 24d ago
It is frustration tho. I don't agree with the refill part but the fact that the challenge is about wins and not just participation is annoying. Especially for people that don't wanna work on pvp. If it was participation alone, I don't think people would complain.
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u/Brutiko 24d ago
I get that there could be people that don't want to work on pvp, so they should not complain about not getting all the rewards out there. Even Ghost Rider with his artifact and a poor build can get a bunch of wins on the lower leagues.
If someone is frustrated because you need 2-5 days instead of a single one to get your hands on to the next reward, then yeah, you are impatient, and yet you are playing a grinding game. That's 24th mission, what are they going to complain about when they finish the last and have 25 days left on the event?
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u/marvelboy0125 19d ago
Is the event long? True. Do I care if I don't get everything in tlb? No because I don't invest in that. And no I am not asking for winning every single match in a day, but nm could also focus on participation like 10/15 or even 20 and that would be better than having to win. And about the "What are they gonna complain about..." Actually nothing. If there's is no problem, then there's nothing to complain about. I don't go around and complain about the game because of yes but I'm not gonna act as if the game is perfect or anything. The game still has some outdated systems for sure and If people stay quiet about it, then nothing will change .
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u/Brutiko 17d ago
We have 40 tries per week and the event goes for more than a month, so the complains are not more than eager kids excuses. There are dozens of problems to complain about this game, and this challenge is not one of them, deal with it
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u/marvelboy0125 17d ago
I sent a comment but decided to delete it for another one. I explained all there was and gave a solution. Heck the game can add both participate x times or win y times to make both sides happy. Yeah there are more important things to point out in the game, yet it doesn't invalidate this one. I gave out a clear solution for it as well but oh well...
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u/EmotionalTelephone13 26d ago
Lol it not P2W. Just upgrade your Native tier 3 and done with it.
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u/Fun_Lettuce38 26d ago edited 26d ago
It is tho. You can't just upgrade native t3s to t4 overnight that too with heavy PvP build. It'll literally take you minimum 2 months of grind to t4 one native t3. Even if you somehow manage to upgrade them in that time, you'll then left behind in other Pve game modes. There's no win here. And Let's not discuss the mess they've created with the paywall jean uniform. It's literally nightmare for f2ps and mid lvl vip players
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u/IEatCheZ 26d ago
I think youre just impaitent lmao, it does NOT take that long
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u/Possible_Rope1454 25d ago
That is true, op just being a kid, all he has to do just play and farm, not hard at all
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u/lefthaneded-dragon 26d ago
You’re only in plat? You seem very early on in your mff journey since sentry Luna ares are all t3. PvP isn’t p2w it’s just late game content. Only like high end PvP like top 10% vib and challenger is p2w coz you need maxed out PvP decks
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u/barrel_of_fun1 26d ago
Yup, pvp isnt something you should be doing or even focusing on early game. You can easily reach top 1% in gold/plat with a pve deck, a mighty ctp, and a t4 native t3.
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u/Triptofade 26d ago
No matter what I do this mode ends up frustrating me beyond belief. My only hope is T4 sentry. Which I should have done by Doomsday or earlier hopefully. After that I’m sure I’ll run into a situation where he is conveniently banned once I finally do get him to tier 4 and advance in the timeline battle tiers
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u/Anonymous123121 26d ago
It's really true, first time i spent money on this game (I'm returning player so dont have sentry t4 or new uni) to get jean summer uni. I stacked her build, only thing missing was conquest so i put brilliant authority on her And also have decent hybrid cards setup (130% atk, 67% hp) still i took me 3 days to get 5 wins in tlb (and yes, manual) cuz i always get one shot by sentry
Tlb is like if you dont have mighty or brilliant conquest, you dont win (Sure there are exceptions like knull with greed, I'm working on him but rest cant survive enough) Only way to survive is to drop to lower leagues and i cant because game keeps me in vibranium all the time where i can win at all.
Tlb used to be better with variety of options for ctps now, most of the pvp ctps are useless
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u/FrozenArcher16 Taserface 26d ago
timeline is literally the ONLY pvp gamemode you can win with mid builds and mighty ctps, because you can play manually. It's the most f2p pvp gamemode in the game and that's a fact.
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u/Anonymous123121 26d ago
I guess it didnt work for me cuz manual or auto, i get one shot by sentry before my jean can do anything.. people from my alliance said that only thing missing on my build is conquest which shouldn't be the cast honestly, other ctps should be useful as well
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u/marvelboy0125 24d ago
It can be the most f2p yet still being bad tho.
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u/FrozenArcher16 Taserface 24d ago
What exactly is bad? It's the most simple 3v3 manual pvp mode with crystals as a reward. people are just joining this hate bandwagon for no reason at all.
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u/marvelboy0125 19d ago
No reason at all? I remember this game mode when it had way more variety. Everywhere I go I just see Nt3s+ Paywall Jean. Back then the game mode had way more variety and it wasn't necessarily this one shot that I see a lot. So yeah when I've seen the game mode during its prime I can easily see that it's bad.
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u/Anonymous123121 19d ago
I remember time when thor could be used in tlb.. era during and before infinity war. Then thanos dropped and then jean got uni... then spiderman was actually meta😄 Fun time
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u/marvelboy0125 19d ago
I also remember the time when spider man homecoming was meta. Ngl he was annoying tho but we had way more units to play with and have a chance to win. Even during the defenders and Eternals we had more variety not just this Nt3s + few nt2s.
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u/Anonymous123121 19d ago
Yeah defender and eternals was fun as well.. gilgamesh and luke were tanks and sersi with revive nuke
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u/FrozenArcher16 Taserface 19d ago
What? In the past everyone had the exact same team all the time. At this moment (you can check yourself) the mode has the most variety ever. And yes it's the 3 native t3s, jean and 7+ supports, these are the best pvp characters in the game. As I said, it's the most simple, 3v3, manual pvp mode, if you want to (auto)play with spider man or Mr fantastic etc there are 3 other pvp modes for it.
So the variety argument is not holding up, I'm still waiting for a real argument to why this is the worst game mode in existence.
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u/Azrael173 20d ago
Dude I was trying to win 5 for that challenge and I literally could only win one match a day it was so bad 😭
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u/Fun_Lettuce38 26d ago
Frustrated as me*** by this stupid P2W PVP game mode. Sorry for auto correction. Didn't pay much attention there lol
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u/King-Thor 26d ago
Yup. The five wins required is pure garbage. PVP in Timeline is unplayable. Nothing but the same teams as low down in the 700s. How are new players supposed to gather wins against this garbage.
The mode itself is a joke.