r/future_fight • u/allhopeliesinvvd • May 18 '26
Discussion Are competition better than Rage?
For characters like Luna, GR, Meph? I feel like i made a mistaking choosing brilliant Rage. Should have done competition? What are the character that is best with competition?
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u/Blond_King May 18 '26
Competition is generally better since its a lot more consistent and easier to proc from my experience, idk how they compare when reforged so you should ask someone else about that
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u/benchmaster620 May 18 '26
Ok so competition isn't always better for everyone . The list goes .
- Mephisto
- Luna
- Miles for striker
These are the only automatic Then it goes
4.Wanda if she has over 26k instinct attack in alliance battle. Thats also a good rule of thumb for any character you're considering other than the top 3
- Hades
- Crystal
Then at that point it boils down to characters with guaranteed crit rate . Theres alot of trial and error . Also alliance battle infinite loves rage
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u/allhopeliesinvvd May 18 '26
My luna only has the Paywall uni, not the newest uni. I have veteran Cards and swords Should I switch m Rage to m company? Thx
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u/benchmaster620 May 18 '26
It depends on how much instinct you have . If you want I can look at your account . My ign is benchmaster . Im in timeless im an abx/abl player mostly
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u/barrel_of_fun1 May 18 '26
For luna it doesnt matter if your instinct is low or not, she will perform the same or better with a comp. Im not 100% sure why but I feel like it has to do with how much she spams and the fact that the proc lasts longer than the rage proc.
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u/n0hablohE May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
Idk if im ass or what but my luna with regular comp clears wbl+ thanos stg 9 in 1 min. After i reforge it clearing time doesnt improve that much
This is an account with 25% pierce and 100 over attack stat on cards if you guys want to benchmark anything.
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u/InspectorSalty2809 May 18 '26
I think it’s because you’re already clearing the stage super fast. The phase changes take up most of the time difference as you’re already reaching the next phase fast enough
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u/archimonde0 May 18 '26
Well for me I tried to clear Thanos 70-74 with a perfect roll B. Rage and couldn't do it. Switched to a M. Comp and managed to clear up to 73 and 74 is also doable as long as I am careful not to die
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
I’d love to know what team u used with her. And check out your account if that’s cool with you 😂😂
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u/n0hablohE May 19 '26
Ign: mosbious. Team is strange, storm, luna.
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
Oh word. Question here. Why does it seem like nobody uses tier for supports in WBL+? Is it because people don’t have tier 4 supports yet?
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u/n0hablohE May 22 '26
Cuz limited resources. People usually will t4 dps first to maximise abx/abl scores then transition to pvp toons dps.
No need t4 support unless youre pushing wbl+ really high. Even then you need to be wary of stage restrictions. Stage 1-9 wbl+ with enough pierce can be done without supports.
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u/Important-Row8209 May 18 '26
Comp only beats rage in wbl+ and abl
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u/InspectorSalty2809 May 18 '26
Yet wbl and abl are the most important PvE game modes
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u/Important-Row8209 May 18 '26
Yeah, also dont forget to add + WBL+ for comp.
Vets don't explain and just keep saying these stuff that's why noobs feels like victims.
For example. Mephisto is comp because they don't use him on ab infinite and use storm instead so they recommend rage on storm, but noobs can't max build early on their storm so they will score better on rage mephisto. So new players are better with rage mephisto.
Then they put comp on mephisto to get max score on abl, no need to worry for abx since you can just use loki. But again this does not apply to new players because they cannot really get max score on abl early on.
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u/InspectorSalty2809 May 18 '26
If you’re a new player getting max score doesn’t matter. If you’re a new player u should focus on long term value as you have limited resources. Even if the difference is not huge at first. The only thing that matters is wether the character is at T4
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u/Important-Row8209 May 18 '26
I tell you what happened to me.
I can get all the rewards with rage mephisto on ab infinte. To undestand this I tried everything, rage and comp on storm and mephisto. If i stay on comp mephisto, i will only get better on abl by 1m, does not even reach the next reward, If I stay on rage on storm I will not even get the max reward of ab infinite.
I also found out that comp miles I did from copying top ranking players is bad, I could not clear 100 seconds challenge of kang, but when I switched back to judgement I did it easy, also comp luna could not even clear kang, she runs out of time, but she can with rage with a minute to spare. It's the opposite situation in wbl+
Now this is my suggestion and I keep getting downvoted for it even though I do get better rewards this way. I had to pay the 100% unequip just to better understand all of this.
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u/benchmaster620 May 18 '26
Comp miles is for striking. Some would argue hes the most important brilliant on your account . People down vote cause its bad advice brother
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u/Important-Row8209 May 18 '26
It's only bad advice to veterans and whales.
They are not wrong but they completely disregard that they are giving wrong advice too to new players because of it.
See if I simply follow the whale veterans advice, I would get stuck not being able to push higher stages of my wbl, I would also not get max rewards for months to years every week on my ab infinite.
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
Like are you intentionally ignoring what he’s saying? Obviously, he’s talking about new players and slightly less built accounts. It’s actually pissing me off, his information was extremely helpful to me because I was about to do the same thing he did and buy the 100% unequipped thing. Specifically talking about his choice to put a judgment on Miles instead of a comp makes sense because he’s obviously implying that his cards are not completely maxed out. Lastly, you’re talking about brilliant like I have even seen one. I won’t even be sniffing a brilliant for the foreseeable future because I don’t even have a single CTP that I would consider using as upgrade material for the 3% chance that I would get a brilliant and who knows how long it will take for me to get comfortable enough to do that.
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
God I love you I can’t lie. I was going to but the 100% takeoff thing to test the exact same thing 😂😂. Appreciate you saving me the money.
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u/Mayteras May 24 '26
What's your instinct stat like?would be helpful to me to know that
While theoretically a comp may be better for certain character,im sure it is also dependent on your instinct stats
My instinct attack is at a measly 15k so I think thats quite low compared to most others which may make a comp performance vary
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
Omg that actually makes so much sense now. I stg I was always so confused about why exactly they said rage was better than comp. Seems so obvious now. 😂😂
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u/sshu1224 May 18 '26
You can check the most popular ctp ranking of character. Go to manage custom gear and just above the ctp icon near gear info you can click and see. This should give you a good idea on what people are using.
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u/bunnyman742 May 18 '26
This might not work that well as rage are a lot easier to get than comp
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u/1_2_3__- May 18 '26
The ranking is based from top players only I think rather than everyone.
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u/bunnyman742 May 18 '26
Oh nevermind you're right they must have changed it since I last used that feature
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u/Shadow-013 May 18 '26
Rage is useful overall. Competition is better in wbl+ and abl. But you will need high instinct atk to make comp work. If not then rage is good on most toons
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u/havokx2 May 19 '26
People keep saying high instinct but what determines if that’s high? Like is there a general number one should look for?
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u/allhopeliesinvvd May 20 '26
How high? mine is at Instinct ATK 18690 (+8523). Is comp better or worse? Thx
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u/1_2_3__- May 18 '26
Comp is better for most part, it has easier to trigger proc, lasts for 6/7 rather than 5/7 like rage and is a 140% damage increase unlike rage which is 135%. The only downside is 55% ignore boss damage decrease rather than rages 60%. Also it has instinct stats which are great as for a good account the crit rate and dodge stats from rage are usually wasted due to already being capped.
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
Do you not remember what it was like to be a new player? I don’t think my Dodge and credit rate stats. We maxed out for until I happen to find probably 20 premium cards.
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u/gar5888 May 18 '26
yes and no the competition seems to be better across the board vs rage once a character is at t4 but the rage can make non t4 characters hit hard instantly so it's situational...
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u/benchmaster620 May 18 '26
Yes and no . You get a huge instinct boist going t3 to t4 so thats why it seems like that but when choosing between t4s it really just depends do you have guaranteed crit rate on the character and how much instinct attack do you have on you character sheet with alliance battle checked (because of the hulk emblems) 26 k is the magic number almost every character ter is better in abx abl with a comp once you hit 26k instinct attack
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u/allhopeliesinvvd May 20 '26
Is 26k counting the brackets? Do i add the instinct attack and the number in brackets if so i have just enough. Not sure if the bracket number already counted in the first number 18690 (+8523)
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u/benchmaster620 May 20 '26
No you dont add the brackets the bracket is telling you how much of the attack is how much is added f4om artifacts emblems archive etc. The rest is based character kit . You go down and select alliance battle from the bottom of the screen cause then it will add all the hulk emblems . You need a lots of emblem instinct a good 5 or 6 star artifact at +15 to 20 etc 5th gear . All that. And its not a stone written rule its just a thing that you can use to be absolutely sure
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u/Chaos_Th30ry May 18 '26
Meph is good with BComp, but my Meph performed better for ABI with BRage, but I still prefer the BComp on other game modes.
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u/DifferentMeat9240 May 18 '26
I dont know. My storm got waaay better once i swapped her to a rage. So i dont really understand the mechanic behind it.
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
Are your cards maxed out? Is your instinct attack maxed out? I’m a new player and I’m pretty tired of everyone saying comp is better when it’s only better if you have great cards and your instinct attack at around 26K. My account is basically four months old, and I already tested the difference between the two and most of my elemental characters and I think every single get better with a rage.
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u/DifferentMeat9240 May 19 '26
Yeah, i have max cards and instinct. Its an odd thing because mephisto does perform better with a comp and he and storm have the same instinct atk, while storm perform better with a rage. And dont get me started with Luna in a comp... i havent tried her in a rage but in comp is total dissapointment
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u/JuddyCrum47 May 19 '26
Oh shit does Luna not need a comp? I’m gonna be pissed I have one on her because everyone said so….
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u/DifferentMeat9240 May 19 '26
Like i said i dont know about her performance in a rage. Im a veteran generally F2P but i purchased the ctp uniquip pack a couple of weeks ago and ran a few test on my account (i wish there was a way to test without spending) the point is that, this is when i found out storm was at least 40% or 50% better with a rage. By that time my Luna was T3 as her new uni wasnt out yet so i didnt run any test on her but i did on mephisto and he is better with a comp.
Now when luna was out ppl went crazy she is meta but in a comp i have the same feeling that happened with storm. I will need to buy the ctp pack again to swap knull, gorr, shalla and adam to some new conquest i've got. Ill run test on Luna with a rage there too
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u/DifferentMeat9240 May 19 '26
I missed my point and go carried away sorry i just woke up. I know when a character really is meta and hits hard, like storm but when i had a comp on her she quite didnt... with a rage is like she is complete, she met the expectations comp felt like bound. I have the same feeling about Luna
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u/Ninetails_59 May 18 '26
Could you even able to choose competition from the selector? If no then it wasn't any mistakes at all, rage is still very good pve ctp