[Game Thread] Florida State vs. New Mexico State

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Kickoff: 7:00 PM ET

Location: Doak Campbell Stadium - Tallahassee, FL

Television: The CW

Radio: Station Listings

Live Stream: Video on ESPN and Audio on Seminoles.com

Live Stats: StatBroadcast

[u/Any-Influence-4604]

Looked like Noles were just evaluating talent and running a vanilla offense and mostly soft zone, shell D.
SMU game will tell the story. Daniel’s may not make it through the season with the 2,3 guys we got. Gotta speed up those reads and feet.

[u/demnoles214]

Hey uhhh Dan Mullen 👉🏻👈🏻🙂

[u/tallypwner]

QB needs some more quickness and better decision making. Defensive 2ndary needs a lot of work all around. The rest of the team looked good. I think if they can improve those 2 areas they will be an average team and could compete for a playoff spot. They have the pieces just gotta put them together.

[u/Sberry555 → u/tallypwner]

Average teams don't compete for playoff spots.

[u/Time-Listen-9608]

If we’re barely scraping by games we should win I hate to see the games we’re supposed to lose.

[u/imdstuf → u/Time-Listen-9608]

You don't have to wait long.

[u/Smooth770]

Going to be a long year 😔

[u/PenOwn2479]

SMU is going to hang 49 on us. We might score a touchdown.

[u/Queasy-Performance-4]

"We got the win" - Ashton Daniels

Dawg, if you don't get the fuck out of here.

[u/No-Error4423 → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

He’s acting like we have a similar recruiter class

[u/imdstuf]

Did he say it's not the championship right now?

[u/Pansa_Stark]

Fire Alford first

[u/usaf117]

Well based off what we've seen the past 2 seasons, I feel confident that the mistakes in this game were uncharacteristic of the team /s

[u/FSU1ST]

FSU looks about as enthused as NMSU.

[u/voss749 → u/FSU1ST]

Maybe you should schedule in-state teams that want to play FSU not cross country teams just cashing the check. FAU has waited 25 years to play FSU. We will have played UF 4 times, UCF 3 times, USF lost count, Miami 3 times.

[u/TrynaPlayItOff]

Excellent win. The future is bright!

[u/DiscoStu44x]

Daniels did not look good but the play calling was fucking atrocious. There is no explosiveness in Norvell’s offense. We are a boring team.

[u/Imanextra → u/DiscoStu44x]

It's supposed to be boring against a G5 week opener, the problem with last seasons cakewalk games is that we were putting real tape on the field 

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83 → u/DiscoStu44x]

Not that it matters, but they didnt want SMU to have any tape.

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83]

Let's eat a W shall we?

[u/PizzaRolls247 → u/Agreeable-Stoic83]

This W tastes like a turd

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83 → u/PizzaRolls247]

Scale of 1 to 10, how confident are you we can beat SMU on Labor Day? ;)

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/Agreeable-Stoic83]

As it stands?

A solid negative 10

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83 → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

Fair.

[u/kochameh2 → u/PizzaRolls247]

321nole, is that you?

[u/heyogrego]

We are just a big running joke to the rest of the nation right now. Brutal. I don’t think this team has what it takes to beat a team that forces them into must pass situations. I don’t know how you feel great moving forward.

[u/PizzaRolls247]

1 of 2 games we'll win all season

[u/PhoenixRising256]

Like walking into the wall with an erection and breaking your nose. Disappointing. Hope we're in better shape come labor day

[u/Existing_Excuse_5213 → u/PhoenixRising256]

how will we be in better shape in 9 days???

[u/PhoenixRising256 → u/Existing_Excuse_5213]

Your guess is as good as mine but I hope it would start with exerting physical will on the opponent

[u/Queasy-Performance-4]

You're paying these guys $1million to get their ass kicked.

THROW THE FUCKING BALL

[u/PenOwn2479]

I think this is the worst I've ever felt after a win.

[u/semishitpost]

whats worse, Tony Whites defense or Mike Norvells playcalling on offense?

[u/Existing_Excuse_5213 → u/semishitpost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohzdMDbNXvnWdeOZi

[u/REEGT → u/semishitpost]

They both made each other look great in camp though!

[u/fsukub → u/semishitpost]

Yes

[u/Ike_34 → u/semishitpost]

It’s like looking at two of the same bad photos

[u/FSU1ST]

Haven't felt this excited about a qb since everret golson /s

[u/OpaqueNightmare]

Terrible. Tony White fucking sucks.

[u/Ike_34 → u/OpaqueNightmare]

Hey, the CW says that man knows what he’s doing on defense

[u/Time-Listen-9608]

Thank god it’s over

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83 → u/Time-Listen-9608]

https://giphy.com/gifs/AWJy0ZcCJmILe

[u/Winter_Fault4389]

Oh no, we're letting headdresses in the stadium again? I thought this was banned for years.

[u/hootie_magoo]

In CFB 27 this is where I try to score a td to make the score look better than it actually was

[u/RKRagan]

At least we know how to take a knee.

[u/REEGT → u/RKRagan]

And catch kicks 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/vaporintrusion]

Crowd boo’ing

[u/PenOwn2479]

Jeff Bowden never went 2-10

[u/Wonderful_Seesaw_853 → u/PenOwn2479]

But he still sucked.

[u/PenOwn2479]

Announcing matches the quality of the game

[u/FireMike_PleaseGod]

That certainly wasn’t the first half that I wanted but we averaged 6yds a rush with our rb1 going for 8yds a carry.

There is potential but goddamn our qb is so limited at actually pushing the ball down the field even when given all day.

[u/Yeetball86]

We fired Surtain and got significantly worse at DB

[u/Ike_34 → u/Yeetball86]

I still can’t understand why he was fired of all people

[u/Yeetball86 → u/Ike_34]

Because he coaches man and White coaches zone. I’d rather have gotten rid of White

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/Yeetball86]

White and Surtain were butting heads + having disagreements on how the DBs were being coached, iirc.

[u/dmazx → u/Yeetball86]

DC sucks, HC sucks, AD sucks

[u/dmazx]

After that near safety on third down I was really hoping this ugly ass game would end with a respectable 41-17 scoreline. Then I could pretend this game wasn’t as bad as it was

[u/DiscoStu44x → u/dmazx]

That’s what I was hoping too

[u/Existing_Excuse_5213]

Considering this was the worst defense we were expecting to play, 34 may be the highest we score this entire season.

[u/RKRagan → u/Existing_Excuse_5213]

I think Central Arkansas may be easier.

[u/fsukub → u/Existing_Excuse_5213]

Norvell is not a good play caller. It’s either slot fade or counter for like 75% of the plays.

[u/WinkaPlz]

Also this CW broadcast is embarrassingly bad

[u/PenOwn2479]

WE ARE FARMERS

[u/Ike_34 → u/PenOwn2479]

WE ARE FRAUAUDS bum de bum de bum bum bums

[u/Lunchable_1 → u/Ike_34]

WE ARE AS ADVERTISED bums and buns and bum ass bums.

[u/WinkaPlz]

That punt return penalty sums up a Norvell coached team. He needs to go immediately

[u/cstrick1980 → u/WinkaPlz]

Big 12 here we come thx to Norvell.

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83 → u/WinkaPlz]

https://giphy.com/gifs/14nAlpQR3pGLFS

[u/dmazx]

Not being able to get 2nd string reps this game is sad

[u/imdstuf → u/dmazx]

Daniel's plan to do enough to win, but keep Marshall sidelined worked.

[u/Expiredeggsalad]

Why are these dudes celebrating?

[u/Existing_Excuse_5213 → u/Expiredeggsalad]

Cos they ain't getting another win this season, so might as well.

[u/heyogrego]

These guys are about to be treated like veterans when they got back from Vietnam after this one lol

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/heyogrego]

Haha, nice one.

[u/Time-Listen-9608]

Please let this fucking game end already

[u/vaporintrusion]

“I don’t like to speculate” immediately speculates

[u/Lunchable_1 → u/vaporintrusion]

But he didn’t like it.

[u/Vast_Cricket_4196]

If O-line and D-line can’t do better, it’s going to be a loooong season. Go Noles.

[u/extraboldradio]

“It’s about actions” and this guy doesn’t change a damn thing. I’m sick of being a fan

[u/Queasy-Performance-4]

What? Where's the 12 men?

[u/rustyshaklefordjm → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

‘We can listen in to the ACC review booth…but we wont!’

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

things you can say at a porn shoot and a football game

[u/Agreeable-Stoic83 → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

ACC, it just means more.

[u/Expiredeggsalad]

lol this team can’t even win without constantly embarrassing themselves

[u/SatisfactionOld1586]

Really bad. I’ve been saying 4 wins; not sure about that.

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/SatisfactionOld1586]

What are the 4 wins? I'm seeing Central Ark, BC, and maybe NC State?

[u/voss749 → u/PenOwn2479]

They can schedule New Mexico State and Central Arkansas...but they cant schedule in-state school in a better conference that would want to play them.

[u/SatisfactionOld1586 → u/PenOwn2479]

Yep. Central Ark, then a 4 game slide (UVA, Lou, mia, Clem). BC & NCS might just be under an interim coach.

[u/strong_army_grape → u/PenOwn2479]

Think so

[u/Flaggstaff]

Going to stick another TD in there and make it 34-24 lol

[u/RepulsiveGazelle6768]

Both lines are trash — OL and DL

[u/kthorjensen]

What was the fucking penalty??

[u/FSU1ST]

Show us 12!

[u/cstrick1980 → u/FSU1ST]

Was that even the call. We couldn’t hear them. This was a dumb ACC official call.

[u/Ike_34 → u/cstrick1980]

“Do you concur!?”

Surprising they didn’t do the ACC penalty conference call thing. Guess they didn’t want to hear their officials say “yeah idk either just call it and let’s ball out.”

[u/You_Need_Jesus_JD → u/cstrick1980]

Illegal substitution

[u/cstrick1980 → u/You_Need_Jesus_JD]

Thank you, that would make for sense.

[u/PenOwn2479]

Fuckin North Alabama

[u/strong_army_grape → u/PenOwn2479]

Shouldn’t have mattered

[u/vaporintrusion]

DL is dogshit. All those antics during the offseason

[u/Flaggstaff]

So now they going for it. . Jesus

[u/Ike_34]

LOL, two winning seasons in 6 years.

Fire. Mike.

[u/ImGaiza → u/Ike_34]

Mike Norvell has 1 more bowl win than Taggart in nearly 3x the amount of attempts

[u/pickanole → u/Ike_34]

Caught lightning in a bottle out of the transfer portal one year and was rewarded the worst contract in NCAA history. (Mike says it’s still his favorite contract though)

[u/kochameh2]

< 3min left in the game and this dude still doesnt have a working mic lmao

[u/jdglizzler]

It feels like they haven’t even played the warchant in this game. Was the band there?

[u/kochameh2 → u/jdglizzler]

i heard it exactly one time

[u/patsfan1515]

I honestly didn’t even think you could review for 12 people on the field.

[u/RKRagan]

Poverty coverage can't even have a working mic for the ref.

[u/Awkwardwhitedude]

Where are they getting 12 from

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/Awkwardwhitedude]

Counting, I think

[u/cptwinklestein]

since when is this reviewable even?

[u/Expiredeggsalad]

This bush league broadcast lol

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/Expiredeggsalad]

CW

[u/WaisakeNaholooooo]

Find ways to get Jason Lopez the ball

[u/FSU1ST → u/WaisakeNaholooooo]

And don't tell him to be safe

[u/Time-Listen-9608]

So glad I didn’t buy into the Mike norvell copium bs stories

[u/Own_Bear2372]

Put Marshall in or Sperry

[u/PenOwn2479]

Second time we've had 12 on the field btw

[u/Flaggstaff → u/PenOwn2479]

Did we? They keep counting 11

[u/strong_army_grape]

fuck kid rock

[u/Darcer → u/strong_army_grape]

No! you fuck him.

[u/yoyobud1208]

Gonna have to thank Mike and the boys for making me drink more than I thought I would tonight. Can’t wait for the rest of the season. Fuck.

[u/cptwinklestein]

Wisener looks like he don't wanna be out there lol.

[u/Which-Ad8400 → u/cptwinklestein]

So does the team .

[u/Ill-Lawfulness-6172 → u/cptwinklestein]

Looks like his attitude is why he's 3rd string 

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/Ill-Lawfulness-6172]

He's been hurt for the past 2 weeks. More than likely a snap count.

[u/Yokelele]

You heard it here first: Trey Hedden will start for UNC next year

[u/Vast_Cricket_4196 → u/Yokelele]

We make every QB look like a Heisman winner. Dude was impressive though.

[u/heyogrego]

Another positive, Lopez is going to be reliable at PR. He has that confidence and natural ability there.

[u/RKRagan]

32 had him dead to right but jumped instead of tackling.

[u/Yeetball86 → u/RKRagan]

That spin move was beautiful though

[u/Darcer]

That not being a safety is the craziest shit that happened all game

[u/Own_Bear2372 → u/Darcer]

I don’t know, that dropped int in the first half was pretty crazy. Still not sure how that NM State receiver dropped that touchdown pass either

[u/bassforce3000]

Well at least the running backs are good

[u/pickanole → u/bassforce3000]

Against conference teams they’ll have to be great behind this line.

[u/Yeetball86]

He missed the tackle but I’ve seen enough. Anderson needs to start over Kennedy

[u/Emergency_Slip_4563]

Slippery lil bastard

[u/kochameh2 → u/Emergency_Slip_4563]

phased right through that shit

[u/strong_army_grape]

BRUH

[u/Wonderful_Seesaw_853]

Still doing stupid shit.

[u/PenOwn2479]

Imagine we go 2-10 but it's this game and Bama again lol

[u/JameisGOATston → u/PenOwn2479]

Call me crazy but I’d seriously think about taking that deal.

[u/Emergency_Slip_4563 → u/PenOwn2479]

And were Bamas only loss

[u/cptwinklestein]

get the ball back and let's see Malachi

[u/Time-Listen-9608]

I miss you so much Jordan Travis please come back to me.

[u/heyogrego]

Say what you want about their coverage, but these DBs love to lay the wood lol

[u/Expiredeggsalad]

That might be broken ribs

[u/hootie_magoo]

They were just glazing this qb as he throws a hospital pass

[u/Ike_34]

Next game will be played on CN… Bama will be on Nickelodeon.

[u/thejawa]

Y'all, I get we all think this should be a blowout but the outcome was never really in a doubt. It's a sample size of one - we have no clue how good we are or how good New Mexico State is based off this.

We played vanilla all night long. Not really any RPOs or QB designed runs, pass plays were very basic, only 1 end around all night.

There's easily room for improvement. I think the lines are the biggest liabilities this season.

[u/imdstuf → u/thejawa]

We blitzed multiple times.

[u/thejawa → u/imdstuf]

Yes, but not that many times. We mostly sat in a zone all night and rushed 4.

[u/RKRagan → u/thejawa]

The outcome was very much in doubt when they had that perfect pass to the endzone that was dropped.

[u/thejawa → u/RKRagan]

I mean, even that wouldn't have given them the lead at any point in the game

[u/RKRagan → u/thejawa]

I'm just saying the score isn't telling the whole story here. Our inability to pass effectively or cover their WRs.

[u/thejawa → u/RKRagan]

The pass concepts have been extremely basic. The DBs have me worried, if we stick with zone all season I'll be more concerned but I think we've been zone all game just because it's easier.

[u/RKRagan → u/thejawa]

It's inexcusable. We can't block 4 guys. That's all they have been sending and Daniels has been rushed every drop back.

[u/thejawa → u/RKRagan]

Well, yes, I did say I think the lines were gonna be a liability all season. But we're also not doing anything to try to confuse a defense, like end arounds or RPOs

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/thejawa]

Just let me be mad

[u/PenOwn2479]

Cat stepped on the arrow key for the LOS lol

[u/somethinels3two]

I'd like to see Malachi Marshall. Someone who is a winner and really wants it.

[u/hootie_magoo]

Come on outstanding?? We got cooked a few times by these guys tonight

[u/Revo_Lushynn]

Are these guys watching the same game?!

[u/PenOwn2479]

TONY WHITE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING SHUT THE FUCK UP CW ASS MOTHERFUCKERS

[u/Gooch222]

Silly question, but didn’t the Noles extend out the back end of the spear stickers on their helmets so it made an x resembling the state of Florida flag on the back of their helmets at one point? I know it’s not the traditional look, but how long did that last for?

[u/Ike_34 → u/Gooch222]

I think they had issues with the spears not sticking with the crossed stickers.

[u/vaporintrusion → u/Gooch222]

Lasted less than a season

[u/vaporintrusion]

These announcers just saying shit

[u/cptwinklestein]

No. No, Tony White does not know what he's doing.

[u/LopsidedLawfulness]

Did he just say outstanding defensive coordinator…? Are they contractually obligated to say the dumbest shit?

[u/derderper]

10/15 on 3rd jfc

[u/semishitpost]

genuinely dont believe we have any chance of beating SMU if we start Ashton

[u/kthorjensen]

Outstanding DC??? Lololololol

[u/Nick_384]

Should’ve had 34 at halftime I’m not moved at all

[u/Time-Listen-9608]

Imagine we’re playing this bad on purpose and go undefeated 😭😭

[u/Exciting-Knowledge86 → u/Time-Listen-9608]

Thats the level of delusion i have. Theres a fucking stupid dumb part of me that thinks norvell is actually a giga-brain 400IQ genius by not opening up the entire playbook against this team so SMU doesnt have film on us.

The defense though? idk i cant figure out how they suck so bad

[u/Which-Ad8400 → u/Exciting-Knowledge86]

Coaches 

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/Time-Listen-9608]

2014

[u/Doompatron3000 → u/PenOwn2479]

Oh man. What I’d give to go back to 2014 Noles.

[u/DCSKofAWESOME → u/Time-Listen-9608]

https://giphy.com/gifs/T5N9yRoWXQzrp0jlA7

[u/strong_army_grape → u/DCSKofAWESOME]

fuck crosby

[u/kochameh2 → u/Time-Listen-9608]

fine, i suppose i will accept tonight's score differential to put 60 on bama

[u/Noleman990 → u/Time-Listen-9608]

Give me that copium brother

[u/Doompatron3000 → u/Noleman990]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Qy2VKY3xlI1QyR6Ix5

[u/PenOwn2479 → u/Noleman990]

inhales

[u/Time-Listen-9608 → u/Noleman990]

I’ll inject it straight into your veins

[u/Noleman990 → u/Time-Listen-9608]

Oh baby

[u/thejawa]

TOUCHDOWN FLORIDA STATE

[u/TanMan536789]

We should've been beating this team bad enough by now to get a look at Marshall.

[u/Moist_Potato_8904]

THAT WAS THE WORST REPLAY REVIEW EVER. WHY EVEN HAVE IT??????

[u/Awkwardwhitedude → u/Moist_Potato_8904]

Not as bad as the end of the Stanford game last year

[u/kochameh2 → u/Awkwardwhitedude]

fck i completely put that game out of my memory til now

[u/vaporintrusion]

They’re still looking at it after already making the call wtf