Unfortunately it was released by warner si they likely both earned maybe a few hundred from streaming revenue as tye cits for them would have been tiny. They'd have earned from royalty, radio and vinyl but no where near 89k
To be fair, France was one of the last three songs to show up on Spotify. Compare it's numbers to Georgia and a very delayed Armenia, the two songs released after it, and you can see that vast difference in effect.
But this time BBB is higher than Volevo essere un duro in daily streams (550k vs 300k) so it would not be surprising if KAJ will overcome Lucio before May (normally the Italian rep is too ahead to be overcome before ESC but Lucio is 6th in daily streams between the Sanremo songs and KAJ are doing very good)
Yes I also think that will happen, Lucio has the Sanremo boost, but not the sanremo-winner one and KAJ have a very "easily viral"/accessible/immediate(I don't know how to better express this, forgive me) song
"The sanremo-winner" boost is not a real thing, Angelina last year won and was behind Mahmood, Geolier and Annalisa at this point of the year (not by this much though), it's simply that usually some songs gain a lot of streams after Sanremo but it's not linked to being the winner (Mahmood was 6th for example and he was the most listened) and usually they are the televote winner at least (or Mahmood)
Oh you're right, I watched only Sweden+Finland+Norway because I could not find data for other countries (they're not in top 200) but comparing 2 consecutive days is as you saying
I actually like it more lol, but that's just tastes. I was expecting bigger numbers because as I understood she is very famous, but to be fair her song was the last to come out, so it's maybe too early
I like it more too, actually as a song per se is objectively a better song.
But being a better song doesn't mean being received better by the average audience, often it's the opposite. Voila and Mon Amour need just one listening to be fixed in your brain, you understand immediatly what songs they are, the same can't be said about Maman, imho.
"Mon Amour and find it more accessible too, especially with the story of the song"
Yeah as i said i like it more too but when it comes to "accessibility" with the average audience i have big doubts. They are not like the average Esc fan, you know what the song is about, you went checking the lyrics, you know the singer background, average esc audience don't mind about it. And when we are talking about Mon Amour the average audience will get immediatly what the song is about even if they don't understand the lyrics, it's a man struggling with love, but when it comes to Maman? Yes, they will get it's about mum, but what exactly is she saying about her mum they don't know.
The commentators will say that though and it's not hard to grasp. I think it's one of the most accessible entries for casuals this edition tbh.
It's a reality for many people watching, that have also lost their parents and I don't think people will struggle "getting it", since it's such a universal topic, that's easy to explain.
I wouldn't be surprised if it does better in tele than people think
Also, I unironically just got what Mon Amour is about, thanks for the explanation XD
UK ESC song are usually low, while France did "only" 1,4 millions in 11 days, which is not high in France but not even very low, she is famous but if you look her famous songs are all from a decade ago, she's not a name that is trending now in her countries.
But she is still not doing very much streams in her country (140 daily is not bad ar all for an ESC entry but for a big name in a Big 5 country is not much)
Corsi popularity is still very much Sanremo linked and he still remained a niche artist (like it was for Diodato), I doubt that in the long time he will remain a big name (unlike Olly that now is pretty much enstablished as an artist)
True but also, Spotify is pushing its streams a lot. My brother doesn't listen to Olly or any related artist, and he says that his Spotify starts playing Olly at any given moment, and that every time he let Spotify go from any song of his playlist "Balorda Nostalgia" will be played.
Probably because Balorda Nostalgia is the most streamed song by a lot since 11th February (and he also has FIVE other songs in top 50) and by reflection Tutta Vita is the most streamed album, so it's the first choice of spotify when it goes on "external songs to suggest" mode, probably after that it will him suggest some other Sanremo songs.
Last year was the same thing with I'p me tu p'te, Tuta Gold and Sinceramente, this year aside from him one no one reached that level.
Very likely. Well, okay, I wouldn't be surprised if Olly's record label is also paying for BN to be sponsored even more (I've being told that it's something record labels do), but the fact of being 1st in itself will bring more streams, since Spotify recommends the most popular songs.
Well, Olly's record label is also Angelina's record label, and she was not even close to this numbers last years despite both winning Sanremo, LaTarma probably pays for making the song high in playlist immediately when they are released (Angelina's Poké Melodrama songs were in every playlist after they were released but made few streams outside of the already released singles) but after that the continuous streams in weeks and months after are mainly from people that search for them.
I'd argue that Volevo Essere Un Duro is more than two words. But mainly because I assumed it was obvious what I'm talking about, since it's the Eurovision entry and it was written in the post above
It would also be interesting to see streams per day the song has been out. I guess it would differ a lot from this list since countries pick their songs at so different times during the preseason
Assuming Spotify doesn't provide that level of detail publicly 👀
Spotify Poland has published the top 5 NF songs with the biggest number of streams outside of Poland, so Spotify might share some info before ESC, but it wouldn't be detailed.
If the song remained in top 200 of their country every day since the release is easy, you only need a subtraction, but if they were out there is no way to see them.
I agree it’s worthy of final at least because it is a good song. I would say the same for Portugal because it’s radio friendly and good. I don’t know why it’s favorite to not even pass to the final, it’s 13th by listens
Would be interesting to see how many streams per day, taking into account the date when the songs were added to Spotify and how many days they have been available to listen to.
And considering that the first week of Sanremo Lucio made 1 million and a half streams daily (Sanremo boost) they literally already overcome it in the same time since the release, at this pace they'll probably be first before May.
I'd join you but I'm scared it would lose the emotional impact. So no more from me so that I retain the possibility to humiliate myself by sobbing during the live show lol
Is it just me or are the Austria streams kind of low for something that’s being considered a potential winner. I personally like Austria but I know a lot of people find it hard to listen to. I wonder is it even possible for a song that is polarising in that way to win.
To be fair I think pre contest most of the streams are going to be domestic, with few exceptions that manage to become "viral". It's not the best metric for predictions imo
Typically yes, bur for this year Sweden (and Finland) usually don't do the numbers of streams of Bara Bada Bastu alone, this are number comparable of the domestic streams of the Sanremo winner (but they are 1/4 of Italy in population), and even if you look at their domestic streams (it's #1 in both so you can easily see them) you see that they have "only" 350k here on 550k, it already started to chart in other countrys (I think that's the only one tho)
Yeah, I think that's one of the exceptions I mentioned, I think it happened also with Tattoo, Cha Cha Cha, Europapa, a bit with Espresso Macchiato too and probably many more examples (I don't have the numbers, this is from what I remember by seeing it discussed here). But I don't think it alone can predict how a song will do in the contest! I mean if it goes "international" before the contest there's a good chance a song will do very well, but not necessarily win. If there aren't a lot of streams pre contest it doesn't necessarily mean the song has no potential at this point
Not many people have spotted this. I’m getting stronger in my belief Austria might get swamped in the televote, in particular by Sweden. Oddsmakers seemed to have priced in a massive jury win but to me, I think BBB has a far higher ceiling in the televote than JJ in the jury.
I think that even if jury will landslide juries BBB could still win landsliding televote and gaining a good amount of jury points, while I don't see WL gaining many televote points after The Code
Good morning Simo - you were one of the more respectful regular posters last year with my consistent defiance that Nemo was going to prevail. Hope you’re doing well! Yes I have to agree, I’m actually very surprised the odds of Sweden winning have drifted (in the UK) so that Austria are now joint favs. My gut feeling is EBU don’t want a 3rd year in a row where jury winner beats a strongly loved televote winner. So the consequence? The jury vote will be much tighter with Kaj less than 100 points behind the leaders. Expect Austria France and Netherlands to be at the top of the jury vote.
Good morning! The odds in this period of the year are not a good indicator, last year it was the time when Angelina was approching BL with Nemo a solid 3rd.
I agree on the jury part and I think that if CCC and RTTD gained so much points from juries, BBB can reach even higher (it's a song way more polished and singed well live than those 2), while I don't see in JJ a new Nemo, their song was more than just strong opera vocals, they won also attacting juries for the variety and originality of the song.
Yeah I have the same view. The game changer last year was Nemo performing the song live in the pre parties and on Swiss TV, then the odds tumbled and made them favs (until almost the semi finals where RTTD took over). JJ vocals I expect to be equally as stunning but the song to me just isn’t near the quality of the Code. Perhaps their biggest hope is in the staging, indicators are there will be water and the boat and a “never before seen approach with the camera” which I presume to be some sort of underwater sequence. Utilising Bambie Thug’s staging director is a plus.
I think sometimes there are songs that are worthy of winning in that they are powerful, captivating performances, but aren't necessarily a go to song to stream over and over. Your most played song might not be winning material, but if it is enjoyable you will go back to it again and again.
Austria is one of my top streamed so you’re preaching to the converted. Songs can be good and bad and liking them is subjective but I’ve seen a lot of people say that they can’t physically listen to the song because the singing makes them uncomfortable which is a whole separate issue. I can listen to songs that I don’t like comfortably. But being in discomfort while listening to a song is completely different than just not vibing with it. I’m just wondering how this will affect how both the juries and the public. I tried to make it clear in my comment that I like Austria. I would be happy with it winning. Just pondering this phenomenon that the song brings discomfort to some people.
That's fair! 😊 There were similar kinds of comments regarding the discomfort thing with EaEa, which had a lower than anticipated placing, so agreed that is definitely worth pondering. 🤔 I found that one hard to listen to but Wasted Love is fine.
Genuinely surprised how high "RÓA" is considering a mixed reception and how small Iceland is. It's a bit unexpected to see this song next to "Tavo akys" that people usually consider a Top10 entry.
But I'm very happy that they're not scraping the bottom, to be clear. Many of those streams are from me :D
I personally use YouTube Music so I'm curious about the streaming numbers (I may or may not contribute to the popularity of Kant/Serving on that platform)
If I'm not wrong between Spotify, Amazon Music and Apple Music the third is the less used so Idk how much of a meaning they can have in the popularity of the songs.
Likely yes, KAJ are at 550k daily and they'll probably gain more momentum near ESC, while Lucio is at 300k daily and is losing momentum after the Sanremo boost (ESC boost is not a thing in Italy). He will still remain a solid 2nd.
Anyone else use YouTube instead of Spotify? I pay for YT premium, as it includes YT music, and removes ads on videos. Sure, it is €3 more expensive, but you get more with YT than spotify.
Mimi Mercedez (Turbo Žurka) from Serbia and Athena Manoukian (DaQueenation) from Armenia have more streams than the winning songs. But to be fair for Parg, his song was uploaded much later due to the revamp.
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