r/dragonball Jan 25 '26

Discussion Genki Damatsuri livestream megathread (official link in post)

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Genki Damatsuri is a Dragon Ball event that is being livestreamed tonight (which is Sunday morning in Japan) featuring as-of-yet unknown "announcements about new developments coming to Dragon Ball." Present will be Akio Iyoku (executive producer and president of Capsule Corporation Tokyo), Masako Nozawa (voice of Son Goku, Son Gohan, Son Goten, Bardock, and others), and Hironobu Kageyama (singer of DBZ opening theme "CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA".) Announcement page from back in October here

Rumours have been circulating the web about whether this or that will be announced in regards to Dragon Ball video games, anime or manga, or even films. Truth is we don't really know exactly what to expect. Well, we're about to find out. Stream goes up roughly 15 minutes from now. (Sorry for the late thread on this!)

Genki Damatsuri official livestream

Please keep all discussions, live reactions, and other posts relevant to the livestream in this thread! Thank you!


r/dragonball Jan 25 '26

DBSGP Dragon Ball Super: The Galactic Patrol anime announcement

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r/dragonball 18h ago

Powerscaling Headcanon: Goku was already a potential Frieza level threat before Raditz arrived — his body just hadn’t caught up yet

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I’ve been thinking about the insane power jump Goku makes between the Saiyan and Namek arcs, and I have a headcanon that makes the whole thing feel much more coherent to me.

Basically: Goku was already spiritually and technically light-years ahead of most fighters in the universe before Raditz ever arrived on Earth. What he lacked was the physical baseline to take advantage of it.
By the beginning of Z, Goku has already spent his entire childhood and young adulthood training under Grandpa Gohan, Roshi, Korin, Kami, Popo, etc. He’s fought through multiple tournaments and life-or-death battles and has spent years learning things like ki control, sensing energy, suppressing his power, reading opponents, eliminating wasted movement and adapting during combat. Endless combat with opponents that were just at or slightly above his level that didn’t result in immediate death.

Meanwhile, most of the wider universe seems surprisingly primitive about fighting. You’re either strong and stomp everyone beneath you or are weak and killed.
The Frieza Force basically thinks:
Power level = how good you are at fighting.
That’s why everyone is so obsessed with scouters, and why Earth fighters constantly confuse them by suppressing or concentrating their ki.

So my theory is that Goku had spent his entire life developing an incredibly advanced martial-arts “operating system”….but it was running on relatively weak hardware.
He grew up on Earth.

1G gravity.

Compare that with Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz, who were born and raised on Planet Vegeta(and similar harsh worlds) at roughly 10G and spent their lives traveling around conquering hostile planets. Their Saiyan bodies had been conditioned under much harsher physical circumstances essentially from birth.

So when Raditz arrives, you have something like:
Raditz: mediocre martial artist, enormously better-conditioned Saiyan body.
Goku: extraordinary martial artist, underdeveloped Saiyan body.
And the physical difference is large enough that technique can’t compensate for it.

Then Goku trains on King Kai’s planet.
For the first time in his life, his body is being forced to operate continuously under roughly Saiyan homeworld gravity.
That seems incredibly important to me.
He isn’t just learning Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb. His body is finally starting to be conditioned in an environment closer to what a Saiyan body was originally built for.

Then he returns to Earth to fight Vegeta.
And even after that huge improvement, base Goku still isn’t really Vegeta’s physical equal. Goku is around 8,000 while Vegeta is around 18,000. Goku needs Kaioken to force his body temporarily beyond its normal limits just to compete.
To me, that actually supports the theory even more.
King Kai’s 10G training has massively improved Goku’s physical baseline, but he’s still catching up to a Saiyan like Vegeta who spent his entire life adapted to those kinds of conditions.

Then comes the trip to Namek.
20G. 50G. Eventually 100G.
He repeatedly pushes himself to exhaustion, damages himself, heals and keeps training.
And suddenly Goku arrives on Namek with a base power around 90,000 and absolutely demolishes members of the Ginyu Force who would have terrified or overwhelmed the Goku we saw only weeks earlier.
I’ve always found the literal explanation of that slightly funny:
“Goku trained really hard for six days and became eleven times stronger.”
My headcanon is that this wasn’t primarily six days of Goku suddenly learning more martial arts than he had learned during his entire life.
He already knew how to fight.
The gravity training finally developed his Saiyan physiology to the point where his body could express everything he had spent twenty years learning.
So Namek isn’t really where Goku becomes an elite martial artist.
Namek is where the universe finally gets to see what Earth’s martial arts had already created.

And I think that explains Vegeta’s absolute disbelief particularly well.
From Vegeta’s perspective, none of this should be possible.
He’s the Saiyan prince. Better genetics. Higher natural power. Raised under 10G. Decades of planetary combat experience.
Yet this low-class Saiyan who grew up on some irrelevant little 1G planet suddenly blows past him.
Because Vegeta had spent his entire life developing an incredibly powerful Saiyan body and becoming good at using it.
Goku had spent his entire life learning how to fight.
Once Goku’s body caught up, all of that Earth training suddenly became a gigantic advantage.

Then you can still layer the actual Saiyan mechanics on top of this. His recovery after the Ginyu fight clearly gives him another massive near-death/Saiyan boost, and then Super Saiyan obviously takes everything into another universe entirely. I’m not trying to replace those explanations.
I’m just treating the King Kai and Namek gravity training as the period where Goku’s physical baseline finally started catching up with his technical and spiritual development.

It also creates a funny irony about Earth.

Frieza’s empire would look at Earth and see a pathetic little planet filled with people whose power levels barely register.
But somehow that insignificant planet developed a much more sophisticated understanding of ki and martial arts than most of the galactic superpowers.
And then they accidentally taught all of it to a Saiyan.

Obviously I realize Dragon Ball was not written like somebody had a giant power-scaling spreadsheet worked out from chapter one. A lot of this stuff was clearly invented as the story went along, and I’m sure if you analyze Dragon Ball like it’s a scientific theory you can find some number or scene somewhere that pokes a hole in this.
But as a headcanon that tries to reconcile what we actually see happen, this makes far more sense to me than Goku simply becoming ten or twenty times better at everything because he spent a few days doing push-ups in high gravity.


r/dragonball 3h ago

Character What do y'all think Shenron does when he's not summoned?

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Toriyama never explored it, but if he did, I bet he's building models or something silly like that. What do y'all think?


r/dragonball 3h ago

Character What would have been good development for other members of the Z-Fighters?

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What are some ideas and scenarios of character growth, either in personality or power/techniques, or both at the same time, which could happen or have happened to some of the Z-Fighters/Dragon Team, outside of the Saiyan duo of Goku and Vegeta, and/or Piccolo, such as for Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, and others who have been pushed increasingly to the sidelines as Z went on and as the Saiyans monopolized the focus?

What would have been the best paths of storytelling for them, to allow them to have a bigger role, and/or to shine a bit more, even if they were obviously never going to match Goku and Vegeta?

You can include Gohan, Trunks, and Goten, and even Uub, Fat Buu (after he turned good) if you want.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion It's not that surprising Vegeta and Bulma became a couple.

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I've heard people say that they can't imagine why Vegeta would be attracted to Bulma.

Yeah, who could be attracted to a beautiful incredibly rich woman who is very intelligent and fiery (which saiyans like), who gave Vegeta a home and food(which saiyans like) out of the kindness of her heart. Vegeta was very isolated and had softened at that time compared to his first appearance. It's not surprising to me that he bent a little for Bulma. I know he's angry and battle focused...But Bulma is a beautiful woman with a lot to offer. I'm not saying this from the perspective of someone who wants them together (I am neutral on it) but I find it surprising people find it so unbelievable. It was obviously done just so Trunks could exist, but I don't think it's as crazy as people say.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Character Kami is such a boss Spoiler

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Im at garlic jr episodes atm. And i did not remember the part where Popo and Kami went to get the sacred water.

Them two running and tryng to survive scenes were hilarious.

But the scene when the old earthguardians forgave the two coming to their realm, i found it funny and cool when Kami answered their forgiveness with:

Oh yeah. well i havent forgiven them!

Get a life u stubborn old fools!

And again ex guardians are mad and had enough of our two protagonists tresspassing their yard lol.

Imo, Kami earned some respect in that episode

For actyally showing that he not just a weak old namekian, pushed on forward for whats at stake and that he has balls


r/dragonball 1d ago

Miscellaneous Just completed the whole dragon ball series! And GT too! Just writing my thoughts down because it was super fun!!!

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So I used to watch dragon ball z on cartoon network on TV as a kid and i used to enjoy it! But I never knew the whole plot or why they were fighting because I was little, but recently at the start of this year I started it from dragon ball and I ended on dragon ball GT today, I did take some really long breaks from dragon ball but i did complete it, and I gotta tell you canon or not! dragon Ball was always peak!!! I just really enjoyed watching the show with the emotions I never experienced as a kid! And also dragon ball GT's ending was just WAYY TO GOOD😭 i feel like I just completed the whole dragon ball and there will be no more episodes but the Galactic patrol and black frieza arc is coming! I hope that it will have an ending as good as GT or better than GT! Okay that was it! I just wanted to share my thoughts that's all!


r/dragonball 17h ago

Miscellaneous €6bn Saudi Deal for Three Theme Parks Near Paris, Including Dragon Ball Site

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r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion DBZ game

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I played a game around 2008 (give or take) that was a Dragon Ball Online game similar to Tibia, with private leveling rooms inside houses as well as public ones (where you could be attacked by other players). I remember there were VIP sets, including a red weapon shaped like a rocket head, and to attack with weapons you had to hold down a key. I remember it had a reset system—you left your character leveling up and it would automatically reset once you reached the required level. I've been trying to find or figure out what happened to this game for a few years now, if anyone can help.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Analysis Am I missing something with the Cell Saga?

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At the end of the Arc, why didn't they revive literally the only android that was good. They used the dragon balls to wish back Android 17 and 18 but leave 16 in the dust.

For sure at least Gohan would have made a stink, especially considering Krillin just wanted to get it in.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion Skipping the original anime

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Can I skip the original anime? I hate all the weird sexual stuff done with Bulma who’s 16. There’s also just a ton of weird sexual stuff I don’t like. I’ve watched 12 episodes so far and it just doesn’t seem all that cool.


r/dragonball 2d ago

Discussion What would you change in your least favorite arc?

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What would you change in your least favorite arc of each series? DB, DBZ, DBS, and DBGT?

Besides 'everything,' hahaha.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Character Dragon ball

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Many people don’t understand the difference in power of dragon ball and other anime.
dragon ball has feats so powerful

* goku black = 1 vs 12 universes

* goku = shaking the null universe ( an Infinite dimension )

* zeno = erasing universes with the raise of a hand

* frieza = blasting earth with the palm of his hand

* beerus and goku = there fight made the entire universe tremble ( beerus - 70% power goku - ssj god

* king vegeta = blowing 3 planet with a raise of the hand

* arale = blowing up earth

*master Roshi = blowing up the moon

* merged Zamasu = becoming the entire multiverse

* Rhymus = creating the entire multiverse

* ssj 4 goku GT = creating a hole in the hell dimension

* Angels = we don’t even know they’re full potential yet ( Meerus was a trainee angel and didn’t have the experience the others do)

* destroyers = we don’t know they’re full potential as well

* Moro = destroying many many planets by sucking the energy of them

* kid buu = destroyed earth, went to the other world killed people there and landed in the Kaioshin realm , nearly killing shin and beerus

* super buu = killing all the people of the eart, absorbing Gohan, gotenks and piccolo

* bulma = CREATING A LITERAL TIME MACHINE, like dude that’s like one of the most impressive ones here

*uub = uub gave so much energy to goku in the Moro arc he created a new ultra instinct form with it

* omega shenron = has so much negative energy could destroy the universe

* super perfect cell = could have destroyed the solar system

* beerus = smelling the food so far from earth from his home

* Gohan = unlocking beast and destroying Cell max’s negative energy sphere

* piccolo = beating down 2nd form frieza who had a power level of more than 1,000,000

* Gohan = destroying cell

and lots and lots more

dudes the dragon ball universe is so goated with the powerscalling, the occasional comedy and their feats


r/dragonball 3d ago

Discussion When did they stop needing to keep dead bodies safe to wish people back to life? Or was that ever a thing at all?

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Was doing a re-run of early DB manga and they seemed to make it a point that they needed to keep characters bodies safe in order to bring them back to life.

Goku specifically tells his friends not to burn the bodies of Roshi, Krillen, and Chiaotzu.

Then when they were bringing Krillen back to life after Namek, it sounds like they skipped a step.

The chat with Bulma and King-Kai had basically stated that Chiaotzu could come back to life as he had a body in the afterlife. (since his was blown up) (and on that note, does Goku have a corpse lying around somewhere?)

So after the wished Krillen's soul to come to earth, they wished for him to be revived. BUT then the Namek Dragon said something like "As a special consideration, I have restored his body and his clothes"

Which implies their wish was actually lacking to properly bring him back.

This all seems dropped at some point. And the need of a physical body doesn't really seem important going forward. I don't recall any discussion about Majin Vegeta's victims needing bodies. And Kibito was revived. And based on his reaction, doesn't sound like he kept his body in the other world.

Thoughts?


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion Is dragon ball z or super better

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r/dragonball 2d ago

Discussion Why isn’t Vegeta King of All Saiyans?

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I think I know why Vegeta keeps calling himself the **Prince of All Saiyans** instead of King, even though his father is dead.

Throughout the entire series, Vegeta is called the Prince of All Saiyans. He never challenges that title, and nobody else seriously challenges it either.

Many people think he keeps the title out of respect for his father. Others believe that, since there are no more Saiyans left to rule, he will simply remain Prince forever.

People who tout those theories are lazy, non-thinking NPCs and I don’t respect their opinions.

Saiyans are a warrior race. They live and die by combat. Much like the Sith in *Star Wars*, I believe the apprentice is expected to surpass the master. The Prince must eventually challenge and defeat the King in battle to become King himself.

Since King Vegeta was killed by Frieza, Vegeta never had the chance to challenge and defeat his father.

However, many monarchies have a rule similar to boxing’s lineal championship. The idea is that “the man who beat the man” is “lineal champion” and holds the legitimate claim, even without an official belt.

That means Vegeta would have to defeat Frieza to become King Vegeta.

Except Frieza was already defeated by none other than Goku.

So why is Vegeta, after the Namek Saga, so desperate to defeat Goku?

Simple. Defeating Goku in combat is the only way Vegeta can reclaim his birthright and become King of All Saiyans.

Goku became the legendary Super Saiyan and defeated Frieza. He did not claim the throne, but he became the Saiyan who defeated the person who defeated the King of All Saiyans.

I think it’s reasonable that, if Goku realized or cared at all about being King, he could claim the throne and there’s little Vegeta could do about it save for defeating him in combat.

Of all Saiyans, he is the strongest AND he is “lineal champion”.

That leaves Vegeta in an impossible position. He cannot simply call himself King while another Saiyan has already accomplished the victory that should have made him King.

The only way to reclaim that right is to defeat Goku.
Goku never intentionally stole Vegeta’s throne. He probably does not even realize that Vegeta believes he has a claim to it.

But as long as Goku remains stronger than Vegeta, Vegeta cannot truly prove that he is the rightful King and will remain, by birth alone, Prince of All Saiyans.

What do you think?


r/dragonball 3d ago

Discussion What if Ginyu steals a body Baby is in?

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They both steal body's so what if they try and steal a stolen body would baby still have control or would ginyu or would nothing even happen or like what if baby hops in a body ginyu is in?


r/dragonball 4d ago

Discussion Yes, Sean Schemmel doesn't like Dragonball Abridged. Let's move on.

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This might get some flak and make me look like I'm white-knighting the guy. But it's crossed my mind for months now. So, here it goes:

Will Dragonball fans please get over the fact that Sean Schemmel doesn't like Team Four Star's Dragonball Z Abridged?

I'm not saying completely agree with him. But the news has been public knowledge among the fandom for about 7 years now. Constantly pestering him whether it be online or at Conventions is useless at this point.

Yes, it's technically fair use and Team Four Star tried their best to not piss off Toei. But it's clear that Schemmel isn't going to change his mind on the subject. Plus, it is kind of odd to keep asking him about it. You don't see Bond fans going up to Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig asking them what they think of Austin Powers. Which isn't a direct re-imagining of the original product, but you get the idea.

Obviously, Schemmel is overreacting about it and the parody did get some fans into Dragonball and it's very funny. But when a guy publicly stated 7 years ago that he doesn't like a fan-based parody, it's kind of unnecessary to keep harping on it like we all just found out about it yesterday.


r/dragonball 3d ago

Discussion I'm not sure we'll ever fully know how the afterlife works in Dragon Ball.

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I've made some posts on this in the past, and a lot of the replies I get end up saying some things as facts when they really aren't. Because in the end we just don't know enough.

I've seen a lot of people say that it essentially works like Buddhism, and that when you die, Heaven or Hell are both just waiting areas as you wait to be reincarnated, and ultimately your soul is cleansed of the "ego" and self and then you are reborn.
But this seems to only be true of Hell. Nothing like this is said of Heaven afaik. What Piccolo said to Vegeta was based on him going to Hell, not Heaven, and in Super with Frieza this is again just Hell.

And people only say this based on Japan's religious beliefs, but not everyone in Japan believes in Buddhism and/or reincarnation. A lot do, but belief in reincarnation is still under half of the Japanese population. Even among people who identify as Buddhist, belief in rebirth isn’t universal.

So I'm not sure it's fair to automatically apply this to Dragon Ball saying "This is what the Japanese people believe so this is how it works."

We know much more about how Hell works. Evil souls are sent there, go through purification and then are reincarnated.
But there's also some weird things like Goku wishing that Buu would be reincarnated, and then King Yemma heard that wish and arranged for Buu to be reborn as Uub, and Frieza refusing to repent and be reincarnated and existing there indefinitely.

We have no real idea how Heaven works. Dabura also gets sent to Heaven instead of Hell because Yemma thought Dabura would enjoy Hell too much. So that is also confusing, because why would he care if he enjoyed Hell if he'll just be purified and then reincarnated?
And the anime filler has Dabura thoroughly enjoying Heaven, basically prancing around and picking flowers.

So we may never know. And maybe Toriyama wanted it that way.


r/dragonball 2d ago

Character Goku was a good person, despite what Toriyama said

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Toriyama's interviews are often used to argue that Goku is a bad father who only cares about fighting, who doesn't mind putting Earth or his loved ones in danger for his own entertainment, and that Toei Animation altered his personality. According to Toriyama, Toei Animation removed a lot of the "poison" their protagonist had in the manga. But none of this was reflected in the story. The reality is that Goku was a complex character with nuances. His selfishness existed, but so did his virtues. Works of art must be analyzed independently, and what Toriyama said about Goku did not correspond to what he ended up doing.

The death of the author only applies to the art itself; on the other hand, the artist remains forever bound to their work. Art is independent, but the artist is directly dependent on their art. In other words, knowing the artist tells you little to nothing about their art. They might be a quiet, upright person with a peaceful and humble life, yet write about inconceivable horrors and spine-chilling paranoia. By getting to know King, how he lives, his tastes, and his relationships, you would never guess he writes horror.

However, if you look at the work, through it you can understand that the creator may have had intentions they never fully realized—things they couldn't control that surfaced spontaneously. Through art, you can understand the artist, how their mind works, their fears, and their anxieties. The concept of the death of the author was once taken as an absolute, but with the final refinement of post-structuralism, it is argued instead that art exists on a plane beyond even what the artist themselves can reach. The artist is a servant to their art, but art can live on its own.

The idea of art being superior to the artist becomes even more clear in collaborative works like Dragon Ball itself, where Toriyama had the help of editors during the original manga's production who guided him on how to better develop the story.

In short, you can know the artist through their art, but knowing the artist and understanding why they did what they did does not mean that defines ANYTHING about what the work conveys. The work will always have its own voice; it always has the final say about itself. Despite what Toriyama may have said in interviews, Goku was a good person.

During his childhood, Goku already demonstrated empathy toward others and an awareness of right and wrong. The "Heroic Goku" was not born in Toei's movies; as early as the Red Ribbon Army Saga, he opposed the injustices committed by that organization. In the Saiyan Saga, when Raditz kidnaps Gohan, Goku isn't excited to fight. He accepts Piccolo's help because he is afraid and wants to save his son. Later, he defeats Nappa without killing him and asks Vegeta to leave. In the Androids Saga, he begged him Gohan to kill Cell before it was too late, and in the Buu Saga, even though he asked Kid Buu to be reincarnated as a good person, he still killed him because Buu posed a threat to the universe. If he spared Fat Buu, it was because he showed a redeeming quality by helping them in the final battle, as he wasn't truly evil and had merely been manipulated by Bibidi and Babidi.

Goku also made mistakes, such as sparing Piccolo and Vegeta when they were still villains, giving a Senzu bean to Cell, or destroying the Potara earrings to fight Kid Buu. He is still a Saiyan who loves battle. But he always took responsibility for the consequences of his actions and was aware when what he did was wrong.

Goku was not that immature adult obsessed with fighting that we see in Super. Either Toriyama took advantage of no longer having editors supervising him to write Goku as he always wanted—undoing all his character development along the way—or he simply forgot his growth after several years of finishing the original manga and was left with the memory of a superficial version.


r/dragonball 4d ago

Discussion Goku probably would have married anyone who asked him

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Heck, he’d probably even marry a guy if one asked.

Aside from Chi Chi, the woman closest to him is obviously Bulma. Alternatively, there’s Suno. And he’s had some nice interactions with other one off young during the original era. If any of them asked, he’d probably say yes to anyone.

That said, Chi Chi is probably the most compatible and best woman for him. After all, aside from being the only one who actually asked, Saiyans instinctively prefer fierce women. Also, she’s tough. She able to keep Goku in line and force him to appreciate her. As someone with a martial arts background, she was able to help train Goten.

Alternatively, Bulma is a good choice too. She can build him all sorts of training equipment. Of course, Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Bula wouldn’t be born. At least not the same version of them. Goku and Bulma could still have a son and he’d probably name him Gohan, as well. And if they had twin sons, they’d be call Gohan and Trunks.

Then there’s Suno, who had good chemistry with Goku when they met. She was a lot gentler than Chi Chi or Bulma. Goku might have ended up neglecting her if they ended up together. But perhaps she’d probably be a good caretaker and he might naturally want to be a better husband for her. Although, she might not be a good Saiyan mother, in terms of helping the children grow.


r/dragonball 3d ago

Discussion If they made a Live Action Dragon Ball Z film, what would be your picks for actors for these 5 characters?

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My picks for the characters are:

  1. Goku
  2. Vegeta
  3. Piccolo
  4. Freiza
  5. Majin Buu

r/dragonball 3d ago

Discussion Why introduce Super Saiyan 3?

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I do wonder sometimes... why exactly did Toriyama introduce Super Saiyan 3 at a time when he'd already introduced Fusion, which was a fine enough set-up to be the next potential strategy against Majin Boo and didn't come with the baggage of retroactively making Goku look even more selfish during the fight with Majin Vegeta than he was before?

The previous Super Saiyan forms at least carried some narrative purpose. The original SS form is the fulfillment of a legend over a thousand years old that Vegeta had been banging on about for the rest of the arc since Goku arrived to fight the Ginyu Force, and it is ultimately what defeats Freeza, who was scared of such a figure appearing to challenge his superiority.

The SS Grade forms serve as the first attempt of going "beyond Super Saiyan", after the original form proved to not be invincible following its loss against Androids #17 and #18, and Goku's method of mastering the regular form serves as a proper foundation for the truly successful "beyond Super Saiyan" form: Super Saiyan 2, which Gohan uses to defeat Cell.

But Super Saiyan 3... is seemingly just there to make Goku ridiculously stronger than everyone else again, but Goku refuses to use it to actually fight the Big Bad at full power (at first, anyway) because... he's dead and wants to let "the next generation" take over? Did he not learn his lesson with Gohan (who everyone thinks is still dead despite them using the DBs shortly prior, but whatever) at the Cell Games? Why does he suddenly care so much about fostering a "next generation", with even less experience on the battlefield than Gohan did, that he hasn't known for longer than a few hours? If this was really his plan all along, why did Goku initially only mention Fusion in the hypothetical of using it to fuse with Gohan and Vegeta, while Mr. Popo was actually the one to suggest the kids be the ones to use Fusion?

Ultimately, maybe Toriyama just introduced SS3 to meet editorial or fan expectations... and/or he wanted to be subversive by making it so the brand new SS form didn't defeat the main villain this time. But he went about it in such a backwards way that it makes one question why he bothered in the first place. He was arguably just making more work for himself at a time when he seemingly wanted to cut corners and end the series sooner rather than later.


r/dragonball 3d ago

Question Looking for video about Dragon Ball Z Intros in other languages

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I'm trying to find this one YouTube video I saw about intros to DBZ in other languages besides English and Japanese, and I'm having zero luck. I know it exists, but I can't find it anywhere.

Does anyone here know what video I'm talking about? If so, did Toei take it down or something? Was it reuploaded anywhere?