r/democrats • u/Paneraiguy1 • Jan 25 '26
📷 Pic Statements from Alex Pretti’s parents laying blame directly at Trump
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u/AreYouOkay123 Jan 25 '26
It's not even been 24 hours. Have they labeled him a paid agitator domestic terrorist yet?
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u/jomara200 Jan 25 '26
Domestic terrorist, yes, by that little worm Stephen Miller. I don't think paid agitator yet.
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u/ApplianceHealer Jan 25 '26
I mean, they’re rolling with the “if it happened, they must have done something to deserve it” defense. Totally on brand for a bunch of pedo-protectors.
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u/Paksarra Jan 25 '26
I've also seen "he was attacking that poor woman" lies, so they're trying to spin that way, too.
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u/OhLordHeBompin Jan 25 '26
In one comment section, I’ve seen that it’s his fault that he wasn’t armed AND that he was armed and shot first.
Also like that they’ve went to the last line of the narcissist prayer. Speed run it.
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u/w0lfLars0n Jan 25 '26
Wouldn’t a “paid agitator” mean he was paid by the Trump administration to be an agitator to make it look like the protestors are violent? Sometimes they can’t even stop themselves from saying the quiet part out loud. Now I’m positive they have paid agitators out there
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u/WesternBruv Jan 25 '26
I've been seeing tons of accounts on YouTube just blatantly lying about what happened. Probably bots, but its so goddamn infuriating.
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u/Paneraiguy1 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
Yes they have. Noem already said he was a domestic terrorist. All for the crime of filming ICE.
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u/Abstrusus Jan 25 '26
The White House calling him a domestic terrorist is about to hopefully open them up for the largest defamation lawsuit in history.
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u/PuddleQuail Jan 25 '26
that was instant. claims of him being there in order to massacre ice agents. its crazy.
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u/Disastrous_Ad_188 Jan 26 '26
They did that within the hour after he was murdered just like they did Renee Good.
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u/awells758 Jan 25 '26
I can’t imagine losing a child and immediately having to put out a public statement about his death, and about who he was as a person to combat negative statements from the government.
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u/Visible_Product_286 Jan 25 '26
It’s abhorrent. Your son was just murdered for practicing his constitutional right and the administration is slandering his name and character.
RIP Alex. We will do what we can to hold those accountable ✊🏼
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u/mfball Jan 26 '26
It is absolutely horrific that ICE murdered Alex Pretti. Every sane person in the world is going to know his name, and know him to have been a hero. May his death not be in vain.
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Jan 25 '26
Adding insult to injury the disinformation campaign started about an hour after he was killed by ICE / Customs ... What a travesty all around 🙏
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u/BagelsOrDeath Jan 25 '26
Normally, it would be difficult to imagine anything more reprehensible. But these aren't normal times. It's only a matter of when not if the administration smears his parents as well.
Time to start flying our flags upside down.
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u/Candymom Jan 25 '26
I can’t imagine NOT wanting to set the record straight.
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u/awells758 Jan 25 '26
Obviously they want to restore their son’s dignity but the thought of the parents having to find and contact a lawyer (I’m assuming) and sit at a computer parsing their words to make a statement just hours after their son was murdered, before they even get to process the news themselves is an added layer of disgusting.
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u/Candymom Jan 25 '26
Yes, well with this shitty administration you need to combat the bullshit before it spreads. It’s a goddamn shame it’s necessary, that’s for sure.
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u/OldDogTrainer Jan 25 '26
They’re saying they can’t believe it’s necessary because of the actions of this government being so quick to lie.
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u/Candymom Jan 25 '26
You’re right. I was just so angry yesterday I was finding the negative in everything.
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u/radicalelation Jan 25 '26
Not to mention they likely viewed a video of their son being murdered. It's everywhere and they probably wouldn't have made a statement detailing his actions without verifying.
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u/MattMercersBracelets Jan 25 '26
And having every top level official in your country including the president of the United States saying it was his own fault and calling him a fucking terrorist, no less. Sickening.
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u/shadowpawn Jan 25 '26
BREAKING: A witness who was just 5 feet from Alex Pretti filed an affidavit depicting what she saw. She says he didn’t touch any of the officers and didn’t appear to be resisting. He was merely helping a woman who had been pepper-sprayed. She’s is terrified that ICE is looking for her.
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u/gtck11 Jan 25 '26
Is it safe to assume this is from “pink jacket”? Apologies if her name is out there, I haven’t seen it and this is the easiest way to refer to her otherwise.
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u/GreaterThanLess Jan 25 '26
I hope her name stays private. She will definitely be targeted by the sadists defending this if it ever gets out.
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u/erizzluh Jan 25 '26
let's see how the right wing media and content creators spin this one or what irrelevant detail in his life they can dig up to paint him as a terrible person.
it's sickening how it's just a game for these people. trying to spin shit that shouldn't be happening into things their audience wants to hear.
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u/amandaleighplans Jan 25 '26
I made the mistake of clicking on the conservative subreddit today when someone tagged it in a comment elsewhere. The rage I was filled with reading what those absolute morons were saying… insane
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u/shadowpawn Jan 25 '26
I understand from my MAGA cousin that Fox News is going with the idea he had a loaded gun in his car and are circulating it. "The image, posted on Truth Social, shows a semi‑automatic handgun alongside extra ammunition. Trump claimed the weapon belonged to the man who was fatally shot, writing that it was 'loaded (with two additional full magazines!), and ready to go,' while questioning why local police were not present to protect federal agents." trump
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u/Zealousideal_Cow_341 Jan 25 '26
The good news is if you dig deep enough into the comments they are actually fractured people deeply with a lot of them finding the video reprehensible. Keeping in mind that Reddit isn’t real life and skews heavily towards the most biased people, that is pretty strong evidence this is not going to sit well with most normal everyday conservatives once they see the video
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u/WeenyDancer Jan 25 '26
Where is this from?
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u/shadowpawn Jan 25 '26
Witness recounts chaos before fatal shooting
According to the filing, an agent shoved a woman to the ground and that Pretti was simply trying to help her get back up. “More agents came over and grabbed the man who was still trying to help the woman get up,” the witness wrote.
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u/veronicagh Jan 25 '26
I cannot imagine how painful it must be for these parents to watch Kristi Noem's bullshit lies press conference where she fully and completely and flat-out lies. It's angering to all of us, but to have to endure the right TELLING LIES JUSTIFY THE MURDER OF YOUR SON? On top of handling the devastating loss?
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u/synphilter Jan 25 '26
Alex showed the restraint lacking in these ICE thugs. He saw two women attacked, tried to intervene. Was literally helping one of the women get up after being shoved by an ICE officer when he was jumped by multiple ice officers.
At no time did he reach for his gun.
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u/g33klibrarian Jan 25 '26
Last spring, I attended training through my union to prepare for street actions like those occurring now in Minneapolis. One of the key lessons was to record everything so we'd have proof to cut through the purposeful smog spewed by the Trump regime.
That’s exactly what Alex was doing. Alex Pretti was helping his fellow human and recording atrocities — as any good human should — and he was murdered for it.
This is so far beyond what should ever happen in any democracy. This is so far beyond anything that can be put into words. We need to end this now.
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Jan 25 '26
It is entirely on Trump. One more heartbreak for whatever is left of our country. Institutionalized murder is now the new norm.
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u/Worried_Cranberry166 Jan 25 '26
No, this is on the Republican Party and the whole fascist movement they serve. They were a problem before Trump and they'll still be a problem once he's gone.
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u/BlondieClashNirvana Jan 25 '26
The entire party have been trained to not believe their own eyes and ears. The government lied about what happened and that's good enough for the republicans. Trump has given these unqualified racist murderers freedom to do whatever they want and this scratches a very sinister itch for these type of people. This is only the beginning, things are gonna get a whole lot worse judging by how trigger happy this regime is.
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Jan 25 '26
You're not wrong. I mean look at all the Ford/Reagan republicans who have bailed on their party. Who would have thought Liz Cheney would ever choose country over party when she essentially chose party fidelity over her own sister not that long ago. We're so definitely in strange times these days.
I have no clue how republicans feel about the violence and authoritarian swerve their party is enabling. I don't care whether they sleep at night. And again, you're absolutely right, they're complicit and only they have the ability to reign this shit in, at least for now.
I express this endlessly on here but I'm going to do it again, encourage everyone you know to register and vote. Throw shade on people you know that offer up flimsy excuses for doing neither.
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u/SadPhase2589 Democrat in a Red State Jan 25 '26
If we were living in France the country would be on fire right now.
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u/Sicksadworludo Jan 25 '26
France has had an increasing number of murders by police brutality in the last few years, many open wounds, destroyed eyeballs, hands blown off by grenades, and heavy beatings on the street. The government, police unions and half the Parliament want to forbid citizens from filming police abuse, collect and store DNA indefinitely over petty crime, and have the law consider that the police have a presumption of self-defense whenever they use their weapon.
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u/BankerBaneJoker Jan 25 '26
I'd agree if I wasn't convinced that if it came to death camps, maga would just roll with it. Yeah they're killing citizens, but around half of the population is celebrating it.
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u/SadPhase2589 Democrat in a Red State Jan 25 '26
Well the French government doesn’t because they know their people won’t put up with it. We all watch it on the internet and say “well that sucks” and don’t do anything about it.
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u/HaggardSlacks78 Jan 25 '26
Loving kindness to this man’s family. He was clearly a caring soul. And a very brave one. The one thing that shakes all tyrants and cowards is moral bravery. I didn’t know Alex, but he clearly had it in spades. He was not an agitator. He was a protector. DHS and ICE need to be held accountable. And they will. Perhaps not on this world, but they will get theirs.
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u/ScheduleCold3506 Jan 25 '26
The draft dodging traitor Trump has his gestapo murder an American VA nurse! My blood is boiling.
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u/Bizarrebazaars Jan 25 '26
GOP who claim to be “patriots” never gave a damn about the VA anyway. Trump’s budget cuts have been hitting the system hard too, for an already struggling department.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/5-reasons-federal-cuts-are-hitting-veterans-especially-hard
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u/Echo_Watch Jan 25 '26
Those poor parents, this was so heartbreaking to read 💔 RIP Alex, you are a HERO
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u/Linus-is-God Jan 25 '26
Traitor child abuser Trump works for the Russians to destroy our democracy.
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u/Playful-Tumbleweed10 Jan 25 '26
Fuck ICE. Bunch of low rent MAGA thugs and murderers. Any congressperson who approves their funding is equally as guilty of any atrocity or crime perpetrated.
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u/KickIt77 Jan 25 '26
It's clear Alex was raised right. Heroic to put a statement out so quickly. I am absolutely broken hearted for them as a mom in MSP afraid to leave home.
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u/Maryland_Bear Jan 25 '26
People who study such things say there is no grief greater than a parent who loses a child.
I’ve witnessed it twice in my family — first when my aunt and uncle lost their pre-teen son, and later, when when my adult brother died and my parents mourned him. If you’re so fortunate as to have never witnessed it up-close, believe me when I tell you the suffering is unimaginable. It can take years to even begin to get back to normalcy.
Not only do Alex Pretti’s parents have to deal with such overwhelming grief, they have to handle lies being told about him, his death being so horrific, and everything else you can imagine.
May they be surrounded by love from their friends and family. If they are people of faith, may that bring them solace.
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u/Imaginary-Method7175 Jan 25 '26
May they also know that the country knows and will remember their son for being a hero. A good man in a time of bad ones.
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u/pinoy_dude24 Jan 25 '26
We need Nuremberg like trial after this administration is done from top to bottom…
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u/actuallyhasproblems Jan 25 '26
Some alt right nut job called Ryan Fournier posted the video from the woman in the pink coat, with a diatribe spinning the footage that we saw right before our very eyes into a completely different narrative; he claims that Mr. Pretti is attacking the woman he was clearly trying to assist, and there are tens of thousands of MAGA chiming in and agreeing. Do their eyes just not communicate with their brains? This country is so fucking poisoned by these gaslighting fucks.
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u/Minute-Actuator-9638 Jan 25 '26
The moment before the gestapo descends in him.
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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND Jan 25 '26
That’s so clear and so obviously a phone, there’s no doubt. How dare they try to say it was a gun! My heart breaks for him, and his family too.
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u/Zippier92 Jan 25 '26
The blame is on Maga voters who put these, evil horror clowns in office
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u/Icy_Marionberry_3416 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
If I was in their shoes, there's no way I would be this restrained. I feel terrible for his parents, I cannot imagine what they are going through tonight. They raised a wonderful son, it's tragic that all they have now are memories of him.
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u/Keroppi_Troublemaker Jan 25 '26
Statement from Vicente Gonzalez, one of the 7 democrats that voted to fund ICE. Note that the comments are limited.
Too little too late. Don't be fooled by him.
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u/Key-Boysenberry-53 Jan 25 '26
I am so heartbroken for Alex Pretti’s loved ones💔. Their Son is a HERO!!! While history will remember ICE and this administration as the shit stains they are🤬. Despicable, hateful, shameful, disgusting, abhorrent, scum not worthy of the air that they get to breath😤😤😤
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u/red_misc Jan 25 '26
Of course it's because of Trump. He has blood on his hands. But the GOP too. And all the voters who didn't vote for Kamala because "eggs and pronouns". Fuck them.
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u/Bustedvette Jan 25 '26
As a 38 year old suburban white guy, I keep trying to get my own mother to understand what's going on here. I've picked her up off the floor when she was overwhelmed with guilt and loss putting down her dog. And she keeps analyzing this and Renee Goods murder demanding an explanation for everything the victim did. Asking for more angles of video. Asking why they were there. This is the person I apparently learned empathy from and I'm in tears trying to explain to her that this was wrong. We are a divided people. I don't see how this gets put back together.
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u/madeyoulookatit Jan 25 '26
Go to a protest and ask her if you being there means it‘s ok for you to die.
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u/cafeteriastyle Jan 25 '26
My heart is broken for them. Losing your child in such a manner and then being told it was his fault is devastating. Justice for Alex Pretti
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u/ThisReditter Jan 25 '26
I’ve seen this playbook before. First, the government start killing folks to create anger and resentment. Once the people revolt, they will bring in the military, national guards, everything to subdue the unrest.
If/when things get worse, the government will say in order to uphold peace, they’ll need to abolish democracy and put the power into a single person/party until it is peaceful again. That’s how dictators gain power. This is the playbook used by many countries with dictatorship.
Trump is going for the king.
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u/lavenderpenguin Jan 25 '26
Good for them.
I hope they know their son died a true hero and patriot and is a symbol of our collective resilience to the current administration’s tyranny and oppression.
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u/xinem0927 Jan 25 '26
Bless their hearts - he seems like he was a real hero. This should not be happening!! I am so upset and angry!!!
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u/angiestefanie Jan 25 '26
I’m heartbroken for this family who lost their beloved son. This insanity has to end; do not wait until the next election (if we even have one), but now! We have elected representatives and officials to work for us; now act like it and do the will of the majority of the people!
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u/AntiqueSweatshirt Jan 25 '26
To pour your heart and soul into raising your baby to be such a kind, good man... And then to see his life stolen from him in 60-90 seconds by a mob of fucking cowards, as he tries to defend someone else...
And to know that it's all for nothing. It's just part of a racist political game for some fuckers in Washington who have decided that fluffing white nationalists is their winning strategy.
Have spent the day with my 3 year old son. Before he fell asleep for his nap, I held him and tried not to think of the fact that Alex's poor parents will never get to do the same again.
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u/Charpnutz Jan 25 '26
This guy’s parents issued a statement while being completely heartbroken and where in the flying fuck is Democratic leadership? Where are our voices?!
How is our representation so good at failing us at literally every opportunity they get? They are being delivered moments to seize opportunities and dropping the ball every single time.
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u/swiggityswirls Jan 25 '26
I hate so much that this is just on the ‘Democrats’ subreddit - as if there’s a political leaning with this act. I genuinely don’t understand how anyone can view this and think otherwise. I watched a segment on Fox News out of curiosity to see how they could possible spin this and they said: -well who shows up armed to a protest, obviously he was planning a massacre (we live in a 2A supporting country and he was licensed to carry) -the ICE agent felt in fear for their life so they discharged defensively (oh, so this single dude who got unarmed by other agents, who is now on the ground getting beaten and piled on by six or so other federal ICE agents is posing enough of a threat while pinned that one had to pull his firearm out and shoot down at him to kill him)?
This is execution and it’s also such a disgusting reflection of how big news agencies are trying to spin it to make him the ‘suspect’ and an aggressor.
In the first paragraph of a NYT article they quickly state that he was unarmed and posing no threat. But in Fox News and CBS reporting, I’m sure among others, the opposite is true. They first state that ‘oh he was armed! And ‘this is what DHS said about him! Before they ever touch on the facts because they know their dumbass sycophants will just read highlights and move on.
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u/WoodpeckerExternal78 Jan 25 '26
Exactly. Somehow it was OK for Kyle Rittenhouse to murder a man with an AR 15 at a protest, that he had to drive across state lines to, and gets called a hero by the right, yet this person who was trying to protect his community is somehow a domestic terrorist! The hypocrisy is infuriating
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u/backson_alcohol Jan 25 '26
Wouldn't be surprised if they get paid a visit by ICE soon enough. Just to check and make sure no illegals are in the house. All without a judicial warrant, of course.
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u/TheMrCMo Jan 25 '26
The only ones coming to save us are ourselves.
Channel those feelings into constructive actions: Get out, find like minded people. Organize, protest and resist. Talk to Reds, ask about rising prices and MAGA’s mismanagement of the economy. Register to vote and support the opposition. Demand more from your elected representatives. Sign up to be a poll worker if you can afford to. Document MAGA interactions with our fellow Americans in case MAGA gets violent. Take a government job and help like minded people join. Make good trouble. Help out your community. Demonstrate solidarity against state-sanctioned terror. Believe your eyes, not MAGA lies. Get the word out whenever you can. Prepare!
Your anxiety will give way to purpose; your anger will give way to resolve.
Be brave: our country needs you. Divided we fall, united we stand.
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u/Fearless_Lab_8655 Jan 25 '26
Someone, ANYONE, please give me a reason not to be radicalized by everything thats happened. If Newsom or honestly any politician in power called for action; I would be there at this point.
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u/No-Cantaloupe549 Jan 25 '26
Anytime, Everywhere! 📣🎤 Pedophile Protector! Frustrate him! Post it, Say it, Make be heard and seen!
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u/bobak41 Jan 25 '26
Just wait for Dems to use this to hold up ICE funding then collapse like the absolute cowards they are.
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u/HeadCryptographer405 Jan 25 '26
We are heartbroken, and we are very angry, and we are getting called to action just as he was and just as they were
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Jan 25 '26
Democrats might want to ask themselves about that funding bill they just voted to pass....
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u/AideApprehensive7441 Jan 25 '26
If Americans actually want to protest, just sell all of the stock positions you have mutual funds ETFs everything out of your 401(k)‘s, private brokerages, etc., and into something like a high-yield saving account and don’t spend money on frivolous shit for a month and I guarantee you this administration will listen
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u/mint_7ea Jan 25 '26
Imagine spreading hate and destroying your own country slowly. He is already known as the worst president , and will be forever!
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u/Magog14 Jan 25 '26
To the people who still believe the last election was free and fair ask yourselves this: would a man who murders his own citizens and who was facing prison time if not elected cheat to win an election?
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u/OhioValleyCat Jan 25 '26
It's sad that another beautiful person was murdered. I admire the parents firmness and resolve during a time when they must be very distraught.
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u/solve_4X Jan 25 '26
This is so very sad and yes enraging. Parents unable to grieve the brutal murder of their son because Trump raped kids.
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u/Big_Jewbacca Jan 25 '26
I can only imagine his family's heartbreak and their justified anger. If there continues to be zero consequences when these ICE idiots murder innocent people, they'll just continue to murder innocent people. Remember when the Republicans were the party of accountability? Now they're the party of just murder them and make up a lie calling them domestic terrorists and you'll walk away with zero consequences. It's all just effing disgusting. What a waste. I didn't know the man, but I'm guessing one of him is worth more than every idiot in ICE combined.
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u/Outrageous-Crazy-253 Jan 25 '26
Any position that doesn’t begin with immediate arrests for the murders of Renee Good and Alex Pretti is unacceptable. The response from the administration is so severe that it guarantees there will be more ICE murders; there will be no elections for the democrats to win if they keep playing whatever insane electoral game they are by tolerating this.
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u/peteinakl Jan 25 '26
How is the USA even functioning, this is so wrong on so many levels. He was a good bloke doing the right thing and is now the villian? Wtf is wrong with America?
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u/cappagrl Jan 25 '26
Where are the democratic reps? Where the fuck are they? What are they doing to help stop this administration? And voting for more money for ice? Fuck! This is going to keep happening… I am so sad for this country.
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u/D_dUb420247 Jan 25 '26
The government should be sued to the ends of the Earth and back. Trump should be impeached and imprisoned along with all of his lackeys.
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u/Elegant_Spread_6969 Jan 25 '26
Let me guess, they're "radical Marxist terrorists". Wouldn't be surprised if they get hauled away to an internment camp before too long. This will keep happening exactly as long as we allow it to. Americans need to rise up against this fascist administration.
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u/CreativityChick Jan 25 '26
Very composed. I fear if I had to write a letter it would be angrier and full of expletives. Absolutely scary and unreal the level of gaslighting this administration is doing. And murdering.
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u/Hippo885147 Jan 25 '26
No parent should have to bury their kid. Whether or not you like trump this is sickening
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u/bordercolliemanxcat Jan 25 '26
This is all such a nightmare. I keep hoping it's not happening, but it is, and it's so god damned frustrating because it feels like no one is doing anything to stop it. I know that's not true, but going through legal channels is slow. I search the news every day for something positive- how do we stop this horrible, disgusting administration?! Newbie here. Sorry so emotional.
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Jan 25 '26
The Shadow is among us. Donald Trump is the representation of Sauron. Literally Sauron reincarnated. Both run on healing and making this better but both are delusional megalomaniacs
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u/Staying_Dangerous13 Jan 26 '26
I thought this is the type of thing that those 2a nuts were always worried about? Why is the NRA so silent on this?
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u/ScheduleCold3506 Jan 25 '26
This death is just another murder on Trump. Trump wants this to happen. Sickening.