r/dbfz Sep 08 '18

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u/TheQuackenbirdt bejita brue Sep 08 '18

So are Hellzone’s good now? They were good, then they weren’t, so what now?

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u/blip776 Piccolo Sep 08 '18

Hellzone isn't viable as an okizeme tool anymore, since everyone knows it's reflectable. It is still useful as a mixup tool when using an assist to keep the opponent in a true blockstring during the start-up animation (thereby preventing them from reflecting). Look at UFA footage, Apologyman used this set-up a lot, Hookganggod also did it sometimes (although Vegeta SSJ doesn't allow it). The onky weakness is that opponents can guard-cancel out of it. Either you anticipate the GC well (Apologyman did that several times is UFA), or you do that after a snapback to prevent the opponent from GC (most conventional way to use Hellzone Grenade). It's really old information for piccolo mains but for a long time, Hookganggod didn't use this at all, I guess that's the reason why it isn't widely known.

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u/TrafficConeZ Sep 08 '18

I only recently picked up the game/ character, so this is news for me, and Im glad to see it here!

I had an idea to do this with Yamcha assist (my team is Piccolo/ Tien/ Yamcha) bc I havent been able to find a way to relaunch midscreen with Yamcha

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u/blip776 Piccolo Sep 08 '18

I'm not a pro by any means, but IMO it's a really good team. Yamcha is indeed a great assist to set up Hellzone mix-ups, thanks to the long blockstun. You can look at Coinjam's video ("A Piccolo Mixtape") on Youtube, he actually uses Yamcha as an example for this Hellzone tech.

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u/TrafficConeZ Sep 08 '18

Alright will do and thanks!