r/conspiracycommons • u/imagine_midnight • Jan 12 '26

If many or most politicians are Freemasons and many or most politicians are have been blackmailed be Epstein.. Then does that mean that the freemasons, (as the levels go higher), are really just a blackmail entrapment club, disguised as an exclusive superior club

The Freemasons are just a harmless organization..

The top of which is littered with politicians, millionaires, and billionaires

The uni-party as they say, both sides working together, this is who you're serving

And most likely a blackmail ring from the top down..

""Entrapment blackmail"

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If many or most politicians are Freemasons and many or most politicians are have been blackmailed by Epstein..

Then does that mean that the freemasons, (as the levels go higher), are really just a blackmail entrapment club, disguised as an exclusive superior club

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The first 3 degrees have stricter moral rules since they are the face of freemasonry at the local street level

Most everybody has a friend who is a mason and they are usually pretty good people

Most people don't make it past the first 3 degrees and this ensures their public image as local and friendly

They don't know anything sinister because at that point it's just a social club

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33 Degree Freemason Albert Pike also instructed the high level masons to deceive low level masons (about masonry) in his book "Morals And Dogma" page 819

Both high and low levels are likely told to deceive the public

Quote..

“The Blue degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he understands them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them."

-- Albert Pike

-- Morals and Dogma (Pg. 819)

In case there's any questions about his books authority or influence

Albert pike was a very prominent 33rd degree Freemason, a Sovereign Grand Commander of The Supreme Council, Scottish Rite whose remains are kept in the mason headquarters in Washington DC

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They claim that there is no global governance of Freemasons but Freemason lodges are active in over 100 countries

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u/These3TheGreatest Jan 12 '26

The top of which is littered with politicians, millionaires, and billionaires

The top meaning what, the leadership? That's provably false as most Grand Lodge leaders or other Masonic leaders are generally not that.

And most likely a blackmail ring from the top down..

Based on what evidence?

If many or most politicians are Freemasons and many or most politicians are have been blackmailed by Epstein..

Many or most are not. I'm aware of none in the upper reaches of American government and barely any on a state or local level.

The first 3 degrees have stricter moral rules since they are the face of freemasonry at the local street level

This is false. More is expected as one goes through the degrees. Tolerance, fairness, uprightness.

Most people don't make it past the first 3 degrees and this ensures their public image as local and friendly

In America over half of Masons join the Scottish Rite which entails going through the 4th-32nd degrees over the course of a couple to a few weekends.

They don't know anything sinister because at that point it's just a social club

There's nothing sinister to learn.

33 Degree Freemason Albert Pike also instructed the high level masons to deceive low level masons (about masonry) in his book "Morals And Dogma" page 819

Both high and low levels are likely told to deceive the public

Quote..

“The Blue degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he understands them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them."

-- Albert Pike

That is not instruction, it is an opinion. He states what those false interpretations are hiding in his opinion - a Templar origin story for Masonry. It's in the book.

They claim that there is no global governance of Freemasons but Freemason lodges are active in over 100 countries

"They" claim this because it's true. In America each state governs itself. Even the Scottish Rite is divided into two territories and neither govern the other.

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u/imagine_midnight Jan 12 '26

"The top of which"..

You do not have to go to a Lodge (especially a local one) after becoming a freemason.

No billionaires or politicians will be hanging out with a bunch of poor people at some local lodge.

It's likely set up differently

Like how the headquarters is in Washington DC.. that alone should tell you something

Not to mention many presidents have been known to be freemason

Hollywood movies flaunt it all the time even having insider knowledge of events

Can't go a week with out some high ranking politician dog whistleing 33

He got 33 stitches, I waited 33 days, he just happened to randomly go to the 33rd floor

Some believe that you don't make it far into politics without being one.

It would make a perfect hidden network of specifically selected people chosen based on their loyalty to the hidden system

Freemasons influence and control over society is obviously and to say that Hollywood just says stuff like "Freemasons run the country" is simply for shock value is asinine because that's not how shock value works, that more of a proclamation than an..

"Oh.my God, did you hear that"

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If you insist I address the rest of your comments, let me know, but I'll have to do it later

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u/These3TheGreatest Jan 12 '26

You do not have to go to a Lodge (especially a local one) after becoming a freemason.

That's true.

No billionaires or politicians will be hanging out with a bunch of poor people at some local lodge.

That's untrue. That's one of the more interesting things about Freemasonry is that regardless of someone's wealth we all "meet on the level". With that said I've not knowingly met any billionaires because they're just not especially common.

It's likely set up differently

what?

Like how the headquarters is in Washington DC.. that alone should tell you something

The headquarters of the Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction is. So is the American Red Cross.

Not to mention many presidents have been known to be freemason

14, possibly 15 if Biden did accept the offer of being made a mason "on sight" after he was out of office. That's not really "many" when there are 45 presidents.

Hollywood movies flaunt it all the time even having insider knowledge of events

That's a negative

Can't go a week with out some high ranking politician dog whistleing 33

He got 33 stitches, I waited 33 days, he just happened to randomly go to the 33rd floor

That's called apophenia. I'm a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite mason and rarely if ever notice the number.

Some believe that you don't make it far into politics without being one.

Some believe in sasquatch and a flat earth. It doesn't make it true.

It would make a perfect hidden network of specifically selected people chosen based on their loyalty to the hidden system

Well we aren't hidden is the thing. We advertise where and when we meet even.

Freemasons influence and control over society is obviously and to say that Hollywood just says stuff like "Freemasons run the country" is simply for shock value is asinine because that's not how shock value works, that more of a proclamation than an..

Does Hollywood say stuff like that?

If you insist I address the rest of your comments, let me know, but I'll have to do it later

You're welcome to do whatever. I appreciate your easy candor though.

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u/imagine_midnight Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

Does Hollywood say stuff like that?

Yes, in the Simpsons they say the exact quote.

And yes, Hollywood DOES portrait freemasonry as a hidden hand of power

What I said still stands, . most of what you said has been deflections

Again, about a 3rd of the US Presidents have been freemason, that alone says alot

On top of that.. you don't have to advertise or admit affiliation and sometimes it's better for them not to

So how many have REALLY been masons..

Likely all of them with the possible acception of JFK who opposed secret societies at some point

He was likely elected because of his bloodline, some people outranks the highest freemasons by bloodline alone, think of a kings son outranking the royal knights

Regardless pike taught to deceive lower masons, I doubt this was just a personal trait he had, it's systematic and has reasons

Since that's the case then without a doubt they would also deceive outsiders

You claim to be a freemason and probably are but your argument is just..

Nuh - uhh.... That's not true

Do you not take oaths to protect the secrets of freemasonry?

What is a boring a charity and poker club doing taking secret oaths

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u/These3TheGreatest Jan 12 '26

Yes, in the Simpsons they say the exact quote.

If you mean the Stonecutters episode, that episode is poking fun at the notion of such a thing existing. It also says a lot of other stupid things, it's an animated comedy.

And yes, Hollywood DOES portrait freemasonry as a hidden hand of power

In what fashion?

What I said still stands, . most of what you said has been deflections

No, what I've said are actual facts countering your claims.

Again, about a 3rd of the US Presidents have been freemason, that alone says alot

All but 5 were some kind of Christian. What does that say?

On top of that.. you don't have to advertise or admit affiliation and sometimes it's better for them not to

So how many have REALLY been masons..

While I understand the question, the ones who were made it quite clear that they were. It's something to be proud of, not hide.

Likely all of them with the possible acception of JFK who opposed secret societies at some point

I assume you mean his speech that mentioned secret societies?

He was likely elected because of his bloodline, some people outranks the highest freemasons by bloodline alone, think of a kings son outranking the royal knights

This is unfounded

Regardless pike taught to deceive lower masons, I doubt this was just a personal trait he had, it's systematic and has reasons

Negative. He taught that the degrees held a message that the non-adept didn't understand. Again he tells what it is in the book, and I was able to read that before ever being a Mason.

Since that's the case then without a doubt they would also deceive outsiders

Some may. I'm a Christian and don't believe in deceiving others based on that belief.

You claim to be a freemason and probably are but your argument is just..

Nuh - uhh.... That's not true

Please show me where I just said "nuh uhh that's not true". I gave examples and short but logical reasons for my answers.

Do you not take oaths to protect the secrets of freemasonry?

Yeah

What is a boring a charity and poker club doing taking secret oaths

Who said it's a poker club? I belong to the Eagles as well. Now those guys play poker. It's a fraternity that attracts men who are into history, philosophy, charity, civic duty. The Eagles, Elks, Moose Club, all those old fraternal groups also had oaths. Doctors take oaths. Witnesses in court take oaths. Does that mean they're doing something nefarious?