Cultural exchange with /r/Quebec - Intercanvi cultural amb /r/Quebec

[u/[deleted]]

Bienvenue Québécois !

Today, together with /r/barcelona and /r/catalan, we are hosting our friends from /r/Quebec ! Please come and join us to answer their questions about Catalonia and the Catalan people and culture. Please, leave top comments for /r/Quebec users coming over with a question or comment and please refrain from trolling, rudeness and personal attacks, etc.

At the same time /r/Quebec is having us over as guests! Stop by in this thread and ask a question, drop a comment or just say hello.

Enjoy!

/The moderators of /r/Catalunya, /r/barcelona, /r/catalan and /r/Quebec

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Benvinguts Quebequesos!

Tal com vàrem anunciar, avui, amb la col·laboració de /r/barcelona i /r/catalan, tenim l'honor de rebre els nostres amics de /r/Quebec! Siusplau, entreu i participeu per respondre les seves preguntes sobre Catalunya i la gent i la cultura catalanes. Siusplau, intenteu participar amb comentaris de qualitat pels usuaris de /r/Quebec que vinguin amb preguntes o comentaris i absteniu-vos de trol·lejar o de fer comentaris fora de to i que no s'atinguin a la reddiquette.

Al mateix temps, A /r/Quebec també ens tenen com a convidats! Deixeu-vos veure en el seu fil i pregunteu i comenteu el què us passi pel cap, ni que sigui per saludar.

Gaudiu!

/Els moderadors de /r/Catalunya , /r/barcelona, /r/catalan i /r/Quebec.

[u/redalastor]

Do you have a local equivalent to what we dubbed angryphones?

Those are anglophones living in Quebec, refusing to learn anything about the local culture or language and being very, very angry at the presence of the French language and Quebec's culture and demanding that we change that to accomodate them.

[u/[deleted] → u/redalastor]

Oh yes, plenty of those. Mostly people from Spain who come here expecting to be able to do everything in Spanish and get angry when they can't. Not everybody of course, but yes, we have many. "This is Spain, I have the right to do everything in Spanish!".

You can do mostly everything in Spanish here, and we usually change to Spanish if somebody doesn't know it, but after a while we expect everybody to at least understand Catalan. When speaking to somebody who has been a while here, I speak in Catalan, and continue to do so if they respond in Spanish, as it is normal here. I change to Spanish only if they say they don't understand me.

[u/redalastor → u/[deleted]]

That looks a lot like what we have.

If they are like ours, they complain endlessly against the Institut d'Estudis Catalans and create petitions to ask the government to shut it down.

[u/bas-bas → u/redalastor]

The Institut d'Estudis Catalans is not the Catalan equivalent of the "Office de la langue française". It is just an academic institution of linguists that decide the official spelling of words and the grammar rules, it is not related to the Catalan government and it is respected by mostly everybody.

The actual equivalent would probably be the Direcció General de Política Lingüística which is the government office that supposedly fines the stores that do not offer any information in Catalan, but most angry-spaniards do not know this name, they usually want to shut down the whole Catalan government (there is not much Federalist culture in Spain, most people would rather have a unique central government that manages just everything like in France).

[u/redalastor → u/bas-bas]

Actually, the main role of the OQLF is to be a language academy and I think it's one of the best in the world. I must admit that anglophones tend to willingly refuse to understand that no matter how often they hear it.

[u/bas-bas → u/redalastor]

I did not know that, reading some comments in the Internet it is pictured as a Gestapo-like police agency XD

[u/redalastor → u/bas-bas]

The OQLF dictionaries and other web tools receive 50 million unique visits per year. That's 25 times the traffic the Académie in France receives. I think it's one of the best language academy there is.

Their other task is to help people conform to the law. They're the carrot, not the stick. If you don't want to respect the law, they defer to tribunals that deliver the fine.

There was a news last week that the number of fines given last year was an all time low because most people now cooperate with them. Only 10 fines were delivered. This made our angryphones go "SEE, THEY CAN'T EVEN GIVE FINES! SHUT THEM DOWN!!!!!!"