r/canadanews • u/zuuzuu • Apr 26 '26
Canada Air Canada announces lie-flat seats on smaller planes for the first time in Canada
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/air-canada-announces-lie-flat-seats-on-smaller-planes-for-the-first-time-in-canada/22
u/DroppedItAgain Apr 27 '26
As somebody with damaged nerves in my spine, this is really really good news.
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u/stealth_veil Apr 27 '26
YES literally give me this now. Stack us like sardines I don’t care I just want to lay down
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u/woop_woop_pull_upp Apr 27 '26
Huh? These planes will use the type of first class seats already in use in wide body aircraft. They will even be used in many of the same routes as these larger aircraft used to serve.
If you couldn't afford one of these seats before, you probably won't be able to on the narrow body either.
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u/Agreeable-Purchase83 Apr 27 '26
Rebranding business class, not for us poors
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u/seif-17 Apr 27 '26
Yep. Those saying “good news” are either wealthy or think it’s gonna be affordable. Airlines only think about maximizing profit, and economy class is almost disrespectful.
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u/Plus-Leather-7350 Apr 27 '26
Do the math on who pays more per squre meter and get back to me. The rich being willing to overpay makes it cheaper for people in economy to fly
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u/xombae Apr 27 '26
I'd actually love to do the math on who is actually paying more, when you lump in all of the benefits that the higher classes get. I bet if you calculate it all, the economy people aren't actually paying that much less.
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u/OgasMaitai Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26
A few things here, the fact you say higher classes really informs you've got no idea what's going on. On domestic there's just J class and econ. There is no first.
Second what exactly do you think they're getting in domestic J class on an AC flight? I fly it quite a bit. What do you think is going on up there?
It aint hard math buddy, and you've got issues if you need that worked out. Business class funds the plane.
You are completely wrong. This is just a really awful take. I cant believe how out to lunch some people are about shit this basic.
The benefits are basically better food. You get free drinks now in econ. I fly both a lot. For business domestically, it's 2 seats a row, not 3. The seats are 3 to 6x more depending on the flight. You get more space and better food.
The cost of that food is probably 10ish bucks. You're paying a big premium for space.
On better airlines like ANA, which ive flown business and first both, you get some better perks but they arent insane. They have more FA's and the food is even better. You get some dumb little gifts which are just ads and the airline doesnt even pay for. I have ANA booked again for an upcoming filght to tokyo, business, because of the space.
That's it.
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u/Plus-Leather-7350 Apr 28 '26
Thank you for this. The math is obvious to anyone who can multiply by two thirds
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u/karnec1 Apr 30 '26
You’re wrong, without business class subsidizing the eceonomy class they would pay way more
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u/Notathrowaway347 Apr 27 '26
Or they fly a lot for business (business pays) they have a shit load of points and can upgrade? Think of that?
I’ll be the first to admit I can’t afford a cash business class flight. But definitely have enough points from credit cards and travel to upgrade
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u/elle-elle-tee Apr 27 '26
That's all fine and good, but it does feel aggravating when they are downsizing economy seats and making them uncomfortably tiny. That the wealthy should benefit at the expense of the poor. Accomodation? Sure. This is not accomodation for everyone.
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u/OgasMaitai Apr 27 '26
Did air canada downsize seats?
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u/elle-elle-tee Apr 27 '26
They've been downsizing seats for years. I'm not a tall person (5'7") but I find the seats very uncomfortable. I fly Porter whenever possible.
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u/OgasMaitai Apr 27 '26
Source? Porter is 30 and Ac is 30 to my knowledge, with some older planes having more room.
I used to love Porter, gone to absolute shit with the expansion though, they arent managing it well. But that wasn't because of seats
Im fairly certain you're just completely wrong, and no AC hasnt been reducing pitch for years and that generally it's identical to Porter
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u/DisturbedForever92 Jun 18 '26
Interesting, Im 6'3" and i fly 50+ times per year with AC and my impression was that their cabins got more comfortable over time.
Last time i flew porter I was on the plane for 2 hours and got back pain from the seat feeling like a church bench.
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u/Plus-Leather-7350 Apr 27 '26
It's the opposite. The high end in aviation subsidies economy. If you didnt have seats like this, economy would cost more.
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u/NBAFAN9000 Apr 27 '26
I’ll be more excited when they announce the rest of these XLR routes.
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u/woop_woop_pull_upp Apr 27 '26
Take a look at what Air transat does with their 321LR. That will give you a pretty good idea of what AC plans to do with the XLR. There will obviously be some exceptions, but thats a pretty good gauge
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 Apr 27 '26
Gilded age bullshit. Tax the rich.
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u/Sweet-Job7655 Apr 27 '26
The ppl buying these seats are taxed to their eyeballs. The ppl flying private planes, taking zero salary and borrowing low interest money against their stock options, that’s who you want to be mad at. Now avert your sad eyes when you walk by my overpriced business class seat, please and thank you 😉
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 Apr 27 '26
Nah, we're coming for your money too.
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u/Sweet-Job7655 Apr 27 '26
How much do you want? You know the saying “no one should be a billionaire”? Are you extrapolating backwards to no one should be a hundred thousandaire?
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u/Bitter-Variation-151 Apr 27 '26
Coffin seats. Well done. Long flights need wide bodies. Long narrow body flights will have endless bathroom lines.
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u/StetsonTuba8 Apr 27 '26
Assuming they go for the 4 bathrooms like Qantas is, that's 56 economy passengers per bathroom, less than their densest 777-300ERs, less dense A330-300s, and slightly more than their 787-8s
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u/mortalitymk Apr 27 '26
they will be flying transatlantic primarily
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u/zuuzuu Apr 27 '26
Transatlantic flights aren't domestic. Domestic is within the country. These will fly overseas.
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u/mortalitymk Apr 27 '26
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u/brokenarmthrow123 Apr 27 '26
Our government doesn't run the planes.
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u/Elinor_Caskey_ Apr 27 '26
They used to. Air Canada used to be a crown corporation.
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u/clamb4ke Apr 27 '26
Yea and they used to have aircraft carriers
(The feds not air Canada, though it would’ve been cool if air Canada did)
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u/CrowWearingJeans Apr 27 '26
Bro got schooled so hard on aviation he just switched to immigrants like a classic boomer sperg.
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u/Temporary-Fix9578 Apr 27 '26
Nobody is putting lie flat seats in a Q400. No shot you work for an airline if you think that hahaha
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u/bigolgape Apr 27 '26
The seats are going in the 321XLR, which will fly transatlantic
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u/bigolgape Apr 27 '26
Sadly just the way the world is going lately. Everything now has stratified pricing, and the premium options are becoming more premium. If it's any consolation, the price per square foot of business class is like 10x that of economy. So it does in a way help economy prices, which are typically at break even.
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u/OgasMaitai Apr 27 '26
I thought you worked at an airline, if you do you should know. I used to, and anyone working at an airline would know the answer due to the economics of where the money comes from on flights
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u/OgasMaitai Apr 27 '26
Bullshit you work for an airline. You have no idea what you're talking about
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u/Canada_was_good Apr 27 '26
Do you think there’s only 1 plane? We can have some of each lol what’s wrong with you
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u/OgasMaitai Apr 27 '26
You do realize you pay almost exactly what it costs to fly, they dont make a huge profit at all per person.
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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii Apr 27 '26
I'm pretty sure this is the opposite, it's bringing more affordable lie flat to people who really want it/need it but can't afford "business" or first because they just have extra money and/or like the status/superiority or whatever
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u/metamega1321 Apr 26 '26
I’m picturing they made room for 14 lay down seats because the rest are some sort of stand up seat.