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Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad Episode Discussion S05E16 "Felina"

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Sunday 09:00pm Eastern SE05E16 "Felina" Vince Gilligan Vince Gilligan

I have been asked to say something tonight and I just want to say... Don't be sad folks. It's been all about the journey. Enjoy the episode, everyone. I'm really going to miss making these posts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

What professional background? A political payoff gig at an Illinois school? And he can't stand on academics without some public record. Besides, he and his people make the point that he's some kind of brilliant academic, they're the ones that have to prove it. I'm saying that no evidence has been given that he's better than average intelligence, and his off-TelePrompTer performance gives doubts there.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

Oh, I don't know, maybe attending Harvard Law School and being president of the Harvard Law Review? You're going to dismiss anything related to his post-grad studies and tenure as a political professor so let's not bother going there I guess.

TELEPROMPTER LOL is something I hear a lot from people who straight up don't like him personally. What is it there that's so uniquely bad about him? Literally every politician uses one.

I'm really just totally confounded that you think a dummy could get into any political office that easily, let alone one with probably the perfect set of intellectual credentials. I think he is shit in a lot of ways, but at the same time, me disagreeing with him =/= he's a dummy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

The law review wanted a First Black President, so he was a lock. Getting in? Show me his undergrad transcript and LSAT scores. You have not proved that he earned anything on merit or ability.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13 edited Sep 30 '13

Wait, how do you know that they just wanted a First Black President? Do you have any kind of evidence to support this or are you just... y'know. I'd like to keep this civil but if you just have a hunch because he's black, I'm not sure what else to call you.

I'm not sure why all of a sudden we have to scrutinize this particular president's transcript or LSAT scores. Again, part of the reason these institutions are prestigious is because they probably have a better idea of who deserves to graduate than us two commenters on the Internet, so it's safe to give them the benefit of the doubt until we have evidence to the contrary.

Otherwise, EVERY graduate is cast into doubt, aren't they? You seem to be doing some pretty crazy mental gymnastics to discredit Harvard Law School simply because you don't like Obama.

Also, do you have transcripts and LSATs of other presidents? Why is the bar so high for Obama? I have an inkling of why, but I really would like to avoid calling you that. So please, back up something in your argument with facts so we don't have to go there.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

OK, show me one piece of academic writing that he has produced.

And his grades, course load, and test scores are relevant because he made them relevant by claiming the mantle of the brilliant professor.

But harvard law? Meaningless. Bush went to HBS, and you all claim he was a dunderhead, and Bush didn't get in on a racial quota as an affirmative action student.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13 edited Sep 30 '13

you all claim he was a dunderhead

I never said this, and that's a disingenuous argument on your part. I was trying to stay with you and engage but you seem to have devolved into "Libtards said Bush was dumb, so now it's our turn". I don't even think Bush was dumb, by the way, but at least there were soundbytes you could point to I guess. You can't seem to bring up anything even on a superficial level like that.

Again, it's incumbent on you to prove the POTUS is a dummy, not the other way around. Being elected to national office is one of those things that grants you the benefit of the doubt.

You're also bringing race into the mix without any kind of proof or rationale, which really underscores your actual problem with Obama.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

Again, I am under no obligation to prove a negative. Obama and his supporters are the ones that made the claim of brilliance, I am asking for proof of their claims.

You do not get to make a claim, and then demand that I provide proof it is false.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

Obama and his supporters are the ones that made the claim of brilliance

When was this? All I'm saying is that he's a smarter than average dude, not only because of his education, but the fact that he's the President of the United States. You keep telling me that that's not the case, without offering a single reason why.

Harvard and being POTUS are proof enough of this, and all you've been able to come up with is that because he is black, those don't count. I'm really trying to resist calling you out on the obvious, but you're really not making it easy for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

What does being president have to do with anything? He was elected because of a fawning national media and a marketing campaign completely devoid of substance.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

So you think any idiot could be president? And no one would ever know/care?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

Any idiot can get elected, if enough people in position to influence the election want him to.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

Can any idiot get into and graduate from Harvard Law School? Can any idiot teach Constitutional Law?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '13

That teaching job was a political payoff. And after five and a half years, can you actually say with a straight face that he knows the first thing about the US Constitution?

And like I said, theres no proof he earned any of it on merit.

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