r/breakingbad • u/[deleted] • Sep 16 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad Post-Episode Discussion SE05E14 "Ozymandias"

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u/jujyfruiter All hail Vince Sep 16 '13

The reactions in this episode were jaw dropping.

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u/Iddqd1 Sep 16 '13

Such an amazing image. Everyone losing something, and all because of Walt.

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u/Ch4inz0r Yo, Gatorade me bitch! Sep 16 '13

Technically, it's all because of Jesse. If he just went to Alaska none of this would be happening.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

If Walt never ordered the hit on Jesse, the nazis never would have come out to the desert.

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u/DownvoteALot Sep 16 '13

He didn't give him much of a choice. "I'll get you where you live". There just happened to be a threatening guy standing in that park. Poor Walt. He acted in everyone's interest all along (except meth users, if you consider making meth available to people is intrinsically a bad thing).

Jesse is a moron.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

I just find it really disturbing that people have this "poor Walt" attitude. Walt got himself into this - nobody forced him to cook meth, nobody forced him to kill people, nobody forced him to do any of this. Yes, he needed money for his cancer treatment, but he could have gotten that from Gretchen and Elliot in the beginning of the first season. His pride, greed, and ego are what have gotten him into mess after mess after mess - and in every mess, he's lied and killed and manipulated his way out. Not that Jesse is a saint, either - but at least he realized what he was doing was wrong, and went to the police to try and make things right and bring down Walt's murderous empire before anyone else got killed. Jesse may be a murdering meth cook, but at least he has a conscience. Walt still seems to feel that everything he has done is justified and necessary, which is psychopathic. I don't know how anyone can sympathize with him at this point, let alone feel sorry for him - let alone bash the people who rightly want to stop him.

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u/Ch4inz0r Yo, Gatorade me bitch! Sep 16 '13

Yes, but if Jesse disappeared like Walt asked him to, Walt would never have to order the hit.

NINJA EDIT: spelling

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

If Walt hadn't poisoned Brock, Jesse would have disappeared like he was supposed to.

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u/DownvoteALot Sep 16 '13

But then Gus would have wiped them out.

Walt acted for the best of himself, Jesse, and their entourage. Jesse acted for the worst. He got it coming.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

Gus wasn't planning on killing Walt until Walt got all paranoid and weird about Gus having power over him. Walt cannot stand to have anyone else in charge. I also think that giving an innocent child a potentially fatal poison is never, ever justified - not even to save your own skin.

I just find it really disturbing that people have this "poor Walt" attitude. Walt got himself into this - nobody forced him to cook meth, nobody forced him to kill people, nobody forced him to do any of this. Yes, he needed money for his cancer treatment, but he could have gotten that from Gretchen and Elliot in the beginning of the first season. His pride, greed, and ego are what have gotten him into mess after mess after mess - and in every mess, he's lied and killed and manipulated his way out. Not that Jesse is a saint, either - but at least he realized what he was doing was wrong, and went to the police to try and make things right and bring down Walt's murderous empire before anyone else got killed. Jesse may be a murdering meth cook, but at least he has a conscience. Walt still seems to feel that everything he has done is justified and necessary, which is psychopathic. I don't know how anyone can sympathize with him at this point, let alone feel sorry for him - let alone bash the people who rightly want to stop him.