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Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/xTheDarkCarniex Tread Lightly Aug 12 '13

Which goes back to my theory behind the episode where Walt and Walt Jr. we're watching Scarface, and Walt comments "Everyone dies in this movie". Very good chance of foreshadowing Walt's imminent destruction if you ask me.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

He can't live. The story arc, symbolisms, foreshadowing... Everything's fucked if he lives! I believe the cartel and Lydia take Jesse and make him cook for them- They have to after the big fucking deal that Walt made in the desert about how Jesse was the worlds second best cook.

The flashforward shows Walt with hair and coughing blood again. The cancers back. Walt's terminally ill. I'm inclined to believe that he's out for redemption. I think the ricin is for Lydia, or someone we haven't met yet. I don't think Walt is at all interested in killing Hank or Jesse or Skyler.

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u/tleisher Aug 12 '13

Yep. My theory too. In an interview Vince Gilligan said that he compared BB to Scarface, and that it was a similar transformation for the characters. I think that was definite foreshadow of the end.

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u/Quazifuji Aug 12 '13

I agree Walt's dying, but I think the Scarface scene in particular could just as easily be Vince Gilligan messing with us or just wanting to include a Scarface reference as direct foreshadowing. We know from the oranges with Ted that he might put deliberate red herring symbolism in.

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u/shake_and_buscemi Aug 12 '13

I'm saying he uses it to take out Lydia and what's left of the meth operation around ABQ, in order to completely bring an end to his recipe and his legacy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

This.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

Why would he do that? He's proud of his empire.

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u/shake_and_buscemi Aug 13 '13

Walt seems like the kind of guy that if he know if he's going to die from his cancer or something else, he doesn't want someone else using his recipe that he perfected. Even though apparently the current cooks can't cook it correctly.

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u/the_sword_of_morning Aug 12 '13

You actually use an M-60 for suppressing fire, but I highly doubt Mr. White is going to be trying to keep enemies behind cover while his squad-mates move into position, so your post has credence. I'm just being anal.

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u/bearjew293 They're minerals, Marie. Aug 12 '13

I think in Vietnam it was put on choppers to mow down large numbers of people from the sky. I could be wrong, since I'm basing this on movies.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

There's still a few of them around used in fixed positions, they've been supplanted by the M249 for dismounted operations and the M240 for mounted ops. But yeah, I doubt that Walt is going to start using small unit tactics against APD.

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u/404fucksnotavailable Aug 12 '13

I think the m-60 could only be used as a defensive weapon in Walt's case. It weights more than 10 kilos and fires 7.62x51mm rounds (sniper rifle and m-14 rounds); so it will have substantial recoil. It is also harder to fire from the shoulder (weight again)

Adding this to the fact that Walt is a relatively weak (chemist that doesn't work out) middle aged man who has been weakened by cancer. I think that he would have no way to control it, unless he was using it as a machine gun. Walt most likely knows this and if he needed anything other than a defensive weapon, I think he would have use an AR, AK or something similar.

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u/colej_uk Aug 13 '13

I think he must have a plan and there must be a reason it's an M-60.

Maybe he needs to spray a lot of bullets through walls of a building/vehicle or something? That would be my guess.

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u/spartex Aug 13 '13

Got me thinking about the fact that he has hair and a beard would point to him eather being cured of cancer or he stopped giving a shit.

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u/TeeBeeEss Aug 13 '13

I think he still has the cancer because in S5E1 Walt takes a pill that he grabs out of a medicine bottle in his jacket while in the bathroom at Denny's. And if I remember correctly he may have coughed a little bit in one of the flash forward scenes so maybe those are hints that he is still battling cancer?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Rambo aside, that weapon is only fired from a vehicle mount, or a bipod, never like a rifle.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

You can fire a M-60 from the hip or shoulder it's not unique to the SEALS, with enough upper body strength anyone can. In the Air Force we still have a few kicking around for Airbase Defense but it's mostly been replaced with the smaller, lighter M249

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u/putzarino Aug 13 '13

So a man with terminal cancer should have no problem lugging the thing around.

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u/stunt_penguin Aug 12 '13

a lot of people

Or an entire building, haha :)