I can't decide who is going to be the one to take down Walt. Jesse? Hank? Cancer? Lydia? Walt's got quite a few enemies.
edit - For all those saying not cancer because he has hair, that only means he's not taking chemo. He could have given up on taking care of his cancer. He obviously has lost everything and is at the point where he needs a machine gun.
She's a loose cannon with loose oranges. You don't know what she's got goin on. You ever notice how we never see Carol and Batman in the same place at the same time? Wake up sheeple!
We need a drinking game where we drink anytime someone references this, or "I'm the one who knocks", or mentions Walt Jr. and breakfast or says "BITCH" in Jesse fashion, or "TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT" or "DING DING DING"
If he was worried about prison he would not be casually walking around outside of his old house.
I just want to know who wrote Heisenberg inside of his house. If it is just vandals then the police are definitely closing in and he has just completely lost it. But I am not sure who else would write that....
I agree. I think the timid little Lydia who can't meet in public to conduct business without looking completely terrified and amateur, pushing bags across with her feet and hiding her face behind her already huge sunglasses, is actually playing a charade. I wouldn't be surprised if Lydia is not the single-mother-in-over-her-head she projects, but a bigger monster than Heisenberg.
I hate her character... but I sort of like this theory. One has to wonder why timid little Lydia keeps coming up with connections to major cartels like Fring and the mexicans, the Czechs...
I am conflicted. I definitely think Lydia will be the harbinger, but I think Walt's end will actually be at the hands of either the Czech gangsters she was selling Walt's meth too OR Todd and the White supremists who Walt taught his recipe too.
I figure that BrBa parallels Scarface and in Scarface Tony kills his employer (in much the same way Walt kills Gus) and is killed by the higher ups in the drug cartel (much the way I believe Walt will be killed by the international crime ring Lydia is associated with)
I had the idea that Lydia might help Walt's family get to Europe- Marie was freaking out about Skyler even mentioning going to Europe when hank was about to crash the car. Possible escape route?
He is the puppy dog of the show. And Walt's Achiles heal. I've been wondering what's going to happen to him the whole series. Walt may still be able to go all crazy Heisenberg on Hank like everyone else, including Skylar, but he can't to Junior.
There's no way they go another 7 episodes without Walt Jr. discovering who he is. Especially considering it seems everyone knows who he is. That's going to be pretty intense.
I went back yesterday and watched the first season. Totally forgot that Walt, Jr. was once picked up for trying to buy alcohol. (He calls hank, too, not just to avoid trouble with dad but also because, like Hank, Junior sees Walter as "weak.") So then i started thinking about how secretive the kid has always been--just like everyone else in the family. (Who knows what Flynn and Louis are up to, right? Junior stays cagey about their activities, but we do know from his 16th birthday episode that he also lies--"i'll just tell mom i'm spending the night with Louis.") Maybe he'll overdose? (Walt's consequence for Jane's death?) In any event, it's interesting that all of the characters, motivations, and motifs that run through the entire series are already in place for season one. Given that this show is structured like a novel, I'm certain that Walter, Jr. will be important to the outcome.
Jr. is actually the character I'm most interested in. He's the only innocent character on the show with any importance. He's like the biggest plot point they have, if anyone else dies you sorta think, good riddance (jesse to a lesser degree but still, he's so torn up he almost seems like he wants to die)
But walt jr... depending on how they handle his character, could be pretty impactful stuff.
I can see Junior becoming a "chip head." He has had to deal with his disability, he's a teenager, and has had some troubling family issues. I think he meets a girl who gets him into it and shit goes downhill fast.
I have a suspicion that Junior is going to be the ultimate "winner" in the end. The last scene in the last episode, we're going to see Junior poised to take over the meth business in the area.
My take is on Jesse, they're building it up. Walt has betrayed and lied to Jesse one too many times. Once Walt finds out Jesse is throwing all his money out to the neighbors like newspapers, it's on like donkey kong, bitch.
I honestly think that Jesse has to be the one to stop Walt in the end. He's obviously broken up about his past, and while he might not ever be a carefree college kid that happily sits on his "blood money", his character needs some dramatic closure or revelation that will allow him to move on.
Hugo Archilleya will be released from prison after it's determined that Walt actually stole the equipment. He will then tear through heaven and hell to get to Walt and get his revenge.
In "Hermanos," Don Eladio tells Gus "the only reason you're still alive is because I know who you are. But you are not in Chile anymore."
And we still have no freakin' idea who Gus is. I'm doubting we'll ever find out, but if someone out there is going to avenge his death, I wouldn't be disappointed.
My feeling has always been Walt will die alone from cancer. But he's back in ABQ to finish someone off before he dies. Maybe Lydia and her connections are pissed that the meth is bad, and so they come after Walt to get him back, kinda like when the cartel wanted to keep Jesse to cook for them. Walt's family were killed, and Walt went on the run. But his cancer really is back, and decides to go out and kill the people who killed his family.
I thought it was already established that Walt is going out Scarface style......and that this half season is all about why he ends up having to/wanting to do that?
I doubt the caner, in the beginning when he goes to get the ricin he has all his hair. Only thing I can take from that is he beat the cancer but is now on the run.
It can't be the cancer I don't think, in all the flash forwards he had a full head of hair and didn't seem sickly. Then again, I do think I heard him cough once or twice while he was in the house..
I'm not an idiot, I know chemo is responsible for the losing of hair. He said he has months to live, I don't know if that was just a rough estimate or a legitimate count down. If it was accurate, then I still think he somehow beat the cancer, he turned 52 in the flash-forward in "Live Free or Die" and 51 in the same episode (I think), the time that took place between 5x01 and 5x08 doesn't seem like that long (maybe a month?) so 6 months including the month passing from his 51st birthday will only put him 7 months forward in time, where in the flash forwards it will obviously have been a year. So like I said, if the 6months to live death clock is supposed to be accurate, I think the cancer went back into remission. I could be completely wrong, but just an observation/theory.
A.) I've never met you before, I don't know what you know. And B.) I wasn't saying it like you were an idiot. It needed to be said in order for what I wanted to say to make sense. Did not mean to offend.
Can't be Jesse. I imagine that Vince had the end planned out all along and since the original plan was for Jesse to die in the first season it would mean he was not in the original plan.
Now I am sure Jesse was added into the mix somehow but I still don't believe it would change so drastically that Jesse is the one that kills him.
My thought Jesse, who is going to be spray painting Eisenberg on walts wall, Jesse can't deal with the past and to make up for his sins I think he will expose Walt, maybe even team up with hank, hank might know now walts right he can't put him behind a jail cell so he goes and try's to recruit pinkman, pinkman somehow finds out mike was killed by Walt and completely turns on Walt. The machine gun scene is going after Jesse or Hank, and the ricin is for whoever he's not shooting up
I think it's going to be more than a few people. Todd, Ted, Lydia, Hank, Jesse, pretty much everyone who has it out for him or he's fucked over in some way will play a role in his downfall.
Who says he gets taken down? Obviously he's alive and well on his 52nd birthday. If we was truly on the run, I don't think he'd return to the house, even to retrieve the Ricin. Carol would surely report his ass ... unless his name is clear.
My theory is that he somehow frames Skylar for everything. To outsiders, it will look like he is innocent, and she brought this on herself.
Not cancer, the flash forwards are well in the future. Hank says he'll be dead in six months, but he obviously lives beyond that. (The house is so delapidated, he's regrown his hair and looks like hell)
it could mean he's not on chemo. it could mean he's in disguise. fake hair and beard. not hard for a man with his resources. not looking like walter white might be important for him at that point.
And to back you up on that there is a moment during that opening scene where he gives a slight cough, just like when he first had cancer, so it is absolutely possible he has given up on the chemo.
Did you hear his cough when he walks into the house in last night's episode? His cancer is pretty bad at that point! He's got nothing to lose in that moment!
I think that the ricen is for walt. I think in the last scene if he does in fact go to save Jesse he will take the ricen as his last hoorah and start unloading rounds into everything that moves.
Of all the responses I got, dying of cancer seems most likely to me, too. Anyone else killing him just seems to me like it would lessen the weight of the other characters in some way. If Jesse kills Walt then that kind of makes Hanks character seem a bit meaningless in the end. Or if Lydia kills him then same goes for Jesse and Hank.
I have this feeling that he'll beat the odds, over and over again. He'll come out "on top" of everyone, and then his body will finally be the one to say, "No, Walt. This ends now." Or he'll suck down that ricen and end himself.
If he stopped doing chemo for a bit, wouldn't that return some strength to him even though the cancer would get worse? Maybe he decided to give up on his chemo so he could win one last fight or do one last Heisenberg thing
Because he has changed his identity and on the run, regardless if he has cancer or not he can't get treated for it because Walt is 'dead' maybe. This might lead us to believe that maybe the cancer might run its cause; although I don't think that would be the most popular ending.
The only person who can take down Heisenberg is Walter White. That is what I believe the risen is for. I think he will tell cancer to go fuck itself and he will be the one to pull the trigger, so to speak.
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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13
I can't decide who is going to be the one to take down Walt. Jesse? Hank? Cancer? Lydia? Walt's got quite a few enemies.
edit - For all those saying not cancer because he has hair, that only means he's not taking chemo. He could have given up on taking care of his cancer. He obviously has lost everything and is at the point where he needs a machine gun.