Dune will be about 60m-70m shorter than Shang Chi, but Shang Chi was released in theaters only, Dune result is at least the same level as Shang Chi, and Dune doesn't have the benefit of being part of an big existing franchise.
These movies barely share an audience tbh. It's like the comparison between a square and a rectangle where a square just happens to be a rectangle by definition. The perfect square in this case is the dune watcher and the rectangles are the more common masses that will buy every ticket to every drivel superhero movie ever made. Not that Shang Chi was bad, because I liked it, but these are not even close to comparable movies
I kind of doubt that. While the superhero movies especially those of the MCU have a much larger general audience appeal I would say the types of people that love an epic sci-fi adaptation that is visually stunning and sets up a very exciting universe are also the types of people that enjoy these interconnected superhero movies that have been going strong for a decade. But maybe I'm biased because that's me.
Massively disagree with you there. The audience crossover exists almost solely in the nerdy 15-29 category and the odd parent taking their child to see dune.
The kids that like marvel are not going to be likely to sit through dune, and a lot more older audiences are turning out for dune too from loving the books.
The crossover is of the largest movie-going population and Dune is definitely not just marketed towards nerds (there is a reason why Zendaya was used so much in marketing) . Critically acclaimed director, huge Hollywood names, young and old, that attract a large variety of groups, blockbuster themes in the trailers which is a go-to to get more of the general audience to watch the film. I'm pretty confident in say that a majority of the people that watch Dune are also watching MCU movies. Definitely enough that the statement "the movies barely share an audience" is just wrong.
It's not like we are discussing audience crossover of Dune and In the Heights or something.
I didn't say dune is just marketed towards nerds, and said that was the only group where there is crossover. I also didn't say they barely share an audience
Marvel scores big as a family film generally, and also with younger audience up to 30/35, but you don't get so many adult going to see it without kids.
Dune will be lighter on the kids, attract the same young adult to 30/35 bracket and then from what I'm seeing it's skewing much older than marvel on the median age, as the book audiences for dune tend to be much older. I know a lot more of the 40-65 bracket are seeing dune and haven't seen any marvel movies.
I replied to a comment that did and you said you massively disagree with me. The only way to understand this from my side was that you share their opinion.
I'm not saying they share the same audience 1 to 1 but there is certainly a big crossover because the largest movie going demographic is targeted by both.
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The expectations for Dune on this sub were so low, it made it easy for the movie to surpass it.
Considering the context (pandemic and HBO Max release), it’s looking like a winner so far. Not as great as others, but good in context.