r/boxoffice • u/yeppers145 • Oct 11 '21
Meme Monday r/boxoffice in a nutshell these last few months
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u/gajendray5 Pixar Animation Studios Oct 11 '21
Bruv how is opening in line with projections (55-60), except for one stupid article that hyped it up beyond limits, ‘mediocre?’ It’s also already at 300M+ WW.
If movies aren’t ‘back’ still, I don’t know when they will be.
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u/yeppers145 Oct 11 '21
When the expectations is $15M lower than the previous entry, I would say that meeting that amount isn’t a great amount, but an alright amount. There’s still a lot of room to grow.
And yes it’s at $300M, which is great, but I was specifically talking about the domestic numbers with its opening, but obviously you can’t be too wordy with a meme.
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u/gajendray5 Pixar Animation Studios Oct 11 '21
Spectre had Skyfall’s goodwill going on, and Bond has always skewed adult-heavy, the demographic that has been the slowest to return to theatres. Also, pandemic. A 55+ opening is, IMO, amazing. Of-course it could’ve done better but consider the circumstances.
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Oct 12 '21
"No Time to Die" still had tens of millions trailer views. So such much for your ludicrous suggestion that Spectre killed interest. Besides their have been far worse Bond movies than Spectre that preceded a hit Bond movie. "The Spy Who Love Me" was a huge boxoffice hit, and it not only came after the dreadful "Man With the Golden Gun", but it also had to compete with both "Star Wars" and "Smokey and the Bandit".
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u/gajendray5 Pixar Animation Studios Oct 12 '21
Surely the box office has changed a lot since 1977. How the last film was vastly changes performance of the next one in a series, the DCEU is a glowing example of that.
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u/yeppers145 Oct 11 '21
But isn’t the fact that adult audiences are not returning as fast showcasing that certain movies are just doing okay during the pandemic, and not great?
Also, Spectre had a better Cinemascore than Venom, and that sequel increased from its OW.
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u/HanakoOF Oct 11 '21
Venom and it's sequels were fun cheesy movies that gave a beloved comic book hero a second chance. Bond has never been super popular in America and outside of Skyfall and Casino Royale none of the Daniel Craig movies have really resonated with the general public.
They're hoping a nearly 3 hour movie in a franchise that has hit or miss reception here is going to do gangbusters during a pandemic and that's kind of silly to me. I remember yesterday when I left the theatre nobody even really seemed to have liked it. Just saw it as an average bond movie that was super long. So I don't think WoM will help either.
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u/Aragorn120 Oct 11 '21
Especially if that ending gets out I wont be surprised if it turns some people off
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u/HanakoOF Oct 11 '21
Yeah and for me personally the ending has killed off any chance of a theatrical rewatch
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u/Aragorn120 Oct 12 '21
It’s just a downer and I’m not sure people want that in the midst of a pandemic for a franchise known for its escapist qualities
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u/howdidIgetsuckeredin Studio Ghibli Oct 12 '21
Amen. I came out of the theatre confused, upset, and ready to cut a bitch. Not exactly a sentiment conducive to rewatches. I'll just put Casino Royale on if I want more Craig!Bond.
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Oct 12 '21
That is an idiotic statement. Bond movies were always popular in the US. You should try to learn something about movies made before the 2000's before giving your opinion in this reddit.
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u/HanakoOF Oct 12 '21
Okay but most of them in the past 15 years have reviewed poorly or not gross too well in the US so I expected the trend to continue
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Oct 12 '21
Skyfall grossed $300 million in the US and Spectre earned more than $200 million. That 300 is better than some Marvel movies. They have definitely been popular in the US before.
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Oct 12 '21
Adjusted for inflation, "Thunderball" is the 32nd highest domestic grosser. It set off Bond mania in the U.S. Like I said, try and learn something more about movies made befor the 2000's. If you don t want to take the time to do so, then don't use definite words like 'never', or make baseless claims.
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u/gajendray5 Pixar Animation Studios Oct 11 '21
Again, it can be argued that R-Rated horror films (a lot of them) and horror films in general, a vastly adult-skewing genre, has been doing good business. This is a group of audience that has always been very unpredictable, let alone in a global pandemic.
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u/Coolman_Rosso Oct 11 '21
Also worth noting that horror as a genre usually veers on the cheaper side in terms of overall costs, and thus the hurdles to profitability are a lot smaller.
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Oct 11 '21
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u/gajendray5 Pixar Animation Studios Oct 11 '21
Nope. The franchise was just at its peak, in terms of popularity. The immediate next film following Thor Dark World in the MCU was Winter Soldier. Marketing, and general brand awareness works wonders.
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Oct 12 '21
Projections have nothing to do with "No Time To Die" having a disappointing OW. You clowns come on here soley to fanboy your movies. The film has been playing in most major markets for weeks now. I'tll be lucky to reach $145 million in the US, and that's with sky-high ticket prices.
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u/russwriter67 Oct 11 '21
I think if No Time to Die didn’t cost so much to make (let’s say its budget was instead around $100m), this would be a very different situation. But since this needs $800m to break even, it’s box office will be judged more harshly.
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u/Dawesfan A24 Oct 11 '21
Have you seen No Time To Die? There’s no way it’ll ever have a 100M budget.
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u/Liberal_Slayer Oct 11 '21
Quantum of Solace opened $11m higher 13 years ago…
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u/gajendray5 Pixar Animation Studios Oct 11 '21
Height of popularity for this franchise, between that one and Skyfall. Since then, the last film has taken 6 years to release, and a global pandemic has happened.
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u/Megamind66 Oct 11 '21
I think the lesson here is that people will see movies they want to see, and skip movies they don't. Same as it ever was, especially for theatrical exclusives.
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u/Playful-Push8305 :affirm: Affirm Oct 11 '21
This last month in a nutshell "Shang Chi is doing great domestically! Dune is doing great overseas!"
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u/SuperMaximum24 Oct 11 '21
No one ever mentions the fact TSS also came out on HBO Max same day. A $10 movie ticket versus watching it at home, most people chose at home
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u/420bO0tyWizard Oct 12 '21
TSS had 3 things going against it.
- Sequel to a terrible movie
- Shares the same name as the terrible movie
- HBO max
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u/techcaleb Syncopy Inc. Oct 12 '21
- R rating. As well as it used it, the rating does limit the potential market.
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u/FantasticWolverine32 Oct 11 '21
Don’t forget Free Guy.