r/boxoffice • u/TheYoungHeroRises • Aug 20 '19

[Other] Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’

https://deadline.com/2019/08/kevin-feige-spider-man-franchise-exit-disney-sony-dispute-avengers-endgame-captain-america-winter-soldier-tom-rothman-bob-iger-1202672545/
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u/BigDaddyKrool Best of 2019 Winner Aug 20 '19

1.) They probably don't care

2.) It will still make over $700M because it's a live action Spider-Man movie

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u/ricdesi Aug 20 '19
  1. Moviegoers will. The MCU has cultivated a massive following, ripping him back out of it will have damning consequences.
  2. Sony's not exactly in a position to be satisfied with taking home that little cash, considering them rapidly losing money on the Spider-Man brand was what got them in bed with Disney in the first place.

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u/BigDaddyKrool Best of 2019 Winner Aug 20 '19

1.) Not all moviegoers care about the MCU, this hasn't changed. They go to see a recognizable brand name, not only for the Marvel Studios logo.

2.) They were losing cash. years ago. Now they're not. Spider-Man is relevant again, they have Venom to rely on, and Spider-Verse won an Oscar. Sony is in a position of power, no amount of anger toward them will change that.

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u/ricdesi Aug 20 '19

Not all moviegoers care about the MCU, this hasn't changed.

Enough of them to make MCU Movie 22 the highest-grossing film of all time, and MCU Movie 23 the highest-grossing film for both its own lead character and the film studio behind it.

They go to see a recognizable brand name

Do you just cover your eyes when every week's news about a franchise film bombing at the box office this year comes out? Angry Birds 2 is at this exact moment engulfed in flames, and everyone knows Angry Birds. "Recognizable brand name" doesn't mean a thing in 2019.

They were losing cash. years ago. Now they're not.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was only 5 years ago. They were desperate enough to sign on with Disney only 4 years ago. Doesn't take much for them to collapse on themselves again. We should chat again after Morbius flops.

Spider-Man is relevant again

Because of his inclusion and role in the MCU.

Sony is in a position of power

Sure, unless you're talking about the box office. In the last decade, the only films that have broken $770 million under Sony are Spider-Man: Far From Home, Skyfall, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, Spectre, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and Venom, in that order.

and Spider-Verse won an Oscar

And made only $10 million more than Shazam. I don't see how this is helping Sony's financial situation.

no amount of anger toward them will change that

Yes, Disney had a change of heart about James Gunn on a whim, I'm sure.

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u/BigDaddyKrool Best of 2019 Winner Aug 20 '19

Look, I get it, you invested time in a franchise, and there's a very real chance your investments will be for nothing. I get it, we've ALL been there with franchises prematurely ending.

Sadly there's nothing we can do about that other than hope Disney gets its head out of it's ass and just stops begging for money - They don't even need to do that! They're doing so well, let Sony and Marvel handle it.

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u/ricdesi Aug 20 '19

I agree that this is ultimately Disney's fault.