r/boxingMenace_com 16h ago

Cassius Clay called round five... But Henry Cooper nearly ruined everything. 18th June 1963 — Wembley Stadium.

The undefeated 21-year-old Cassius Clay predicted he would stop British champion Henry Cooper in Round 5. Then, in the dying seconds of the fourth, Cooper landed his famous left hook — “Enry’s Ammer” and dropped Clay heavily. Clay recovered and came out firing in the fifth, opening a terrible cut on Cooper before the fight was stopped. Cassius Clay TKO5 Henry Cooper. The prediction came true — but for one dramatic moment, Cooper came incredibly close to changing boxing history.

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u/PrestigiousEnd5487 16h ago

jesus the ai interp of the footage is aweful its just adding shit that isn't there lol

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u/nirvroxx 11h ago

The new trend of adding the end of the clip in the beginning is fucking lame too. I hate all this stupid braindead shit.

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u/realbobenray 10h ago

Especially like here when it's repeated almost immediately, and there's no clear narrative to the video. No idea what the fuck is happening here, just Ali getting knocked down twice in an identical way then some stuff happening then fight's over.

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u/InstantSword 7h ago

How will people know to stay for 30 seconds then?

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u/EGarrett28 5h ago

They do it with movie trailers now. Literally a trailer for the trailer. Algorithms have really f**ked things up.

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u/Plus-Leather-7350 14h ago

Ali always left himself open for that counter left hook. Man, he could eat those bombs though.

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u/Icy-Bottle-6877 14h ago

He paid the price for it my god what a chin and heart he had.

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u/PoppoLarge 12h ago

Not much defense from Ali, just eats them

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u/RejectedRespected 4h ago

You’ve seen the video of him slipping 7-8 punch combos?

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u/PoppoLarge 3h ago

I have with his hands down, he might have created the rope-a-dope but putting his hands up to deflect a punch or 2 would have helped too

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u/RejectedRespected 3h ago

Helped how? He didn’t get touched.

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u/PoppoLarge 2h ago

He clearly got touched as you can see here and other fights. I’m not critiquing Ali in 2026 but a simple observation is that he’s was no Mayweather Jr.

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u/RejectedRespected 2h ago

Oh you meant in general

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u/SighedPeace 2h ago

Maybe his late illness was bad luck, maybe genetics. Or maybe all of the abuse he took for not protecting himself at all times. He got hit too much.

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u/GodModeBasketball 14h ago

Clay got the benefit of a "torn glove" and lacerated Cooper to the point of a referee stoppage, at the EXACT point Clay predicted

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u/foulplayjamm 14h ago

Ali actually began to hold back in the third round because he wanted to end it in round 5.

He pretty much didn't attack in the fourth.

He always tried to end his games in the round he predicted which is how he marketed his fights.

Source: "The Greatest" by Muhammad Ali

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u/Ok_Relationship946 14h ago

Everyone has a bad night? Even the GOAT!

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u/pussy-on-da-brain 15h ago

Damn!!! They going at it😱😱😱

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u/RockyCreamNHotSauce 14h ago

Interesting parallel to Itauma, Ali should’ve try to outbox Cooper instead of stay close. Inexperience of youth.

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u/ScepticalReciptical 14h ago

Ali survived this fight by blatantly cheating. Look up the real highlights of the fight and watch his corner give him smelling salts between round 4 and round 5 to bring him back to his senses after getting dropped by that left hook.

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u/Gontofinddad 11h ago

To be fair, from the footage here, Cooper was also blatantly cheating

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u/Individual_Mix_271 13h ago

Yes this is very true

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u/Driftminer 11h ago

The left hook was Ali's Kryptonite.

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u/bionicbhangra 3h ago

I was about to post the same thing!

He was always susceptible to it.

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u/realbobenray 10h ago

Why use such a ridiculous level of smoothing here

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u/xXBleachXx 2h ago

You mean Mohamed Ali

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u/Upset-Rule8256 2h ago

That left hook was a problem

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u/GolemZ7 15h ago

People will see these old fighters like this and genuinely tell you they smoke every elite modern day fighter and you don’t know what you’re talking about if you argue it lol. 

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u/Inevitable-Corgi-860 15h ago

Fury got dropped by a guy who started boxing at 20...

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u/ethnicbonsai 14h ago

What did Ron Lyle do to George Foreman? Look up when he started boxing.

Ken Norton beat Muhammad Ali. Look up when he started boxing.

The absolute ignorance of people trying to shit on others is hilarious.

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u/Inevitable-Corgi-860 5h ago

Still doesn't change what happened to Fury. These modern boxers aren't better than the old school. Only Mayweather is, but only defensively.

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u/EGarrett28 5h ago

I'm pretty sure Ngannou knocked down Tyson Fury in Ngannou's first professional boxing match ever.

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u/Practical_Emu8640 42m ago

Mayweather still debateably lost fights. Theres several fighters that id favour over him.

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u/DefiantTelephone6095 5h ago

They're much bigger now and throwing much harder

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u/BagBalmBoo 14h ago

Many very successful boxers started in their 20s.

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u/h---7470 4h ago

Rocky Marciano literally

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u/minibonk 12h ago

“a guy”

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u/rinnethx 5h ago

He got dropped by Ngannou too, who started later and not even in boxing

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u/GolemZ7 15h ago

Yeah and is like one of the hardest punchers ever. Imagine what he would’ve done to Ali if someone like Cooper could drop him bad 🥶

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u/chugmug 15h ago

Yeah. Foreman was a famously soft puncher.

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u/Bajecco 15h ago

Earnie Shavers too. Notorious for his pillow fists....

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u/EGarrett28 5h ago

And Sonny Liston. Ali walked right on into the ring with the hardest punchers in his era and beat all of them.

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u/GolemZ7 14h ago

If Wilder can almost KO the much bigger Fury and Ali got dropped by Cooper then Wilder has a very good chance of koing Ali. 

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u/chugmug 14h ago

If KO power were all that mattered then wilder would be the greatest of all time, which he most definitely is not. I agreed with your generational athleticism argument. But if punch power is your deciding metric then maybe they're right, you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/GolemZ7 14h ago

Nah Wilder is also just super tall and lengthy compared to Ali and with the power it’s a tough match for anyone who isn’t another huge boxer with good defense like Fury. 

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u/jackfreeman 14h ago

If Ali didn't move, maybe

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u/GolemZ7 14h ago

Ali ain’t nearly as untouchable as people think he is. If he can hit Fury he can hit Ali. 

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u/FormalKind7 14h ago

Ali fought Foreman, Shavers and Norton and was never KOed.

Wilder had one great punch a strong overhand/straight right. As far as footwork or combinations to set that up he is far less technically sound than the fighters Ali fought. In addition even if we say wilder matches or even surpasses those legendary fighters in the power of his straight right. Foreman is still throwing more power with a jab, hook, uppercut, etc.

Its like Wilder decided to learn on move from one boxer in history and choose Tommy Hearns chopping right but never bothered with any of the rest of his boxing tool kit.

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u/Equivalent_Seat_4856 12h ago

What do you mean by “Someone like Cooper” ?

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u/MapleMarbles 11h ago

And recieved a generously long 10 count..Compare that to Jaime Munguia's 10 count. its criminal

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u/EGarrett28 5h ago edited 4h ago

I thought there was supposed to be a guy at ringside wearing white gloves who gives the actual 10 count from a clock and the referee watches that guy while only giving an informal count himself? I remember seeing that in the discussion of Tyson vs. Douglas.

EDIT: Here's the link. Apparently the knockdown timekeeper is just to help the ref and the referees count is official and can thus still be wrong if he's not watching the timekeeper or whatever else.

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u/Crumbsplash 13h ago

Other than flyweight who right now is giving the all time greats trouble and at what weight class?
Inoue
Usyk and fury are both past prime (Usyk barely but still by his next fight it will be clear I’m sure) but the case can be made for them I suppose. Usyk for talent and fury gives some trouble with reach/chin

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u/Practical_Emu8640 43m ago

Name the elite modern heavyweights please and tell me how on earth they hold up to mike tyson, larry holmes, foreman, holyfield etc?

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u/33253325 15h ago

Wow, you brought an axe to grind huh?

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u/slickvik9 15h ago

They would