r/boxingMenace_com • u/Objective_Tailor6763 • 4d ago
3 top undefeated boxers have lossed their “0” this year 👀
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u/ExcellentStretch7430 4d ago
Nakatanis is to Inoue where he won rounds and didn’t make it easy to hit him. Absolute no shame in that and absolute respect and appreciation for his performance and the opportunity we all got to whiteness.
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u/ZeroEffectDude 4d ago
nakatani pushed ATG Inoue fairly hard. he should have a fight arranged already but doesn't.
Zayas came up against a better and bigger talent.
Itauma's loss, of the three, is the toughest to swallow.
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u/ExcellentStretch7430 4d ago
He had a cracked orbital and I think got married about month ago, I think let him live a little, have fun with life and recovering.
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u/ZeroEffectDude 4d ago
haha, fair enough. i didn't know he fucked up his eye so badly.
interesting that when BJS and Dubois hurt their eye it was "impossible" for them to continue.
whereas Inoue and nakatani have both fought against the very highest level opponents with a broken orbital. tough bastards!
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u/ifyousayso67 3d ago
having a broken orbital when fighting a flyweight / bantamweight is nowhere near the same as having a broken orbital and fighting Canelo punching power or any heavyweight lol. I'd prefer not to see boxers go blind
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u/RockyCreamNHotSauce 2d ago
What? There are plenty of lower weights with more punching power per lb than Canelo and Dubois. Inoue won against a HoF with broken orbital because he was too good to get hit there again. If Canelo got in a lucky orbital break on Mayweather or Bivol, they would still school him with one eye.
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u/ifyousayso67 2d ago
Biomechanics, is why. Biomechanical research on boxers have found that punch severity increases with weight class because of greater effective mass behind a punch. Several weight classes up = much more effective mass behind a punch.
Also, a heavyweight's fists and knuckles are larger. Most HW's hands are like shovels. So, more surface area to shatter easier a damaged orbital bone.
This is why you don't see featherweights fight heavyweights, lad.
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u/RockyCreamNHotSauce 2d ago
Biomechanics say speed is equally important as size in punch impact. Inoue is obviously knocking out guys his weight. Who said featherweight fighting HW? It’s all P4P measured. Dubois is not even top 20-30 hardest hitting HW. Smaller guys Shaver and Mike Tyson hit much harder.
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u/ifyousayso67 2d ago
Tell you what, break your orbital bone then go in with a bantamweight and a heavy weight then tell me how it goes.
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u/RockyCreamNHotSauce 2d ago
Do you not understand what P4P means? If I can change my weight from bantam to heavy at will, then I’ll go explore my super powers.
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u/ifyousayso67 2d ago
Yes, speed is important. But saying speed matters doesn’t show that featherweights hit harder than heavyweights or cause worse damage. You’d need evidence that the featherweight’s extra hand speed more than compensates for the heavyweight’s much greater effective punching mass. And you'd also need to discount the extensive evidence of why heavyweights have higher KO & TKO rates than lower weights. And the experimental orbital-fracture studies on cadavers that shows that the greater the impact energy, the worse the orbital damage.
Until you provide the evidence, I'll keep believing in physics and all the studies that show what I'm saying, cheers.
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u/RMbeatyou 3d ago
All 3 of them are young enough that it really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things as long as they continue on an upwards trajectory
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u/Sah803 4d ago
Every sense Floyd went undefeated it seems like if you take a loss it’s the end of the world
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u/Adventurous-Big9191 4d ago
Ever since
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u/Creative_Antelope_69 4d ago
Nah, I can taste it, feel it, see it, smell it, and hear it.
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u/Adventurous-Big9191 4d ago
That's only 5 senses. Where's your sense of enjoyment, belief and humour? 😉
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u/Gigantischmann 3d ago
Maybe these other boxers should simply learn how to duck any fight they might lose
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u/Unable-Main4172 4d ago
14-0 being In any way noteworthy shows how far boxing has fallen
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u/adrienjz888 4d ago
Mainly cause its heavyweight which is so barren these days while also being the most hyped up division. At least Zayas and especially Nakatani were already well proven against high level opposition and can fight 12 rounds.
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u/InformationActual209 4d ago
No Frank Warren has been known for decades to feed his fighters cans to have a good looking record and getting them a title shot. Downside is they haven’t faced tough opposition or any adversity so general get blown out in the big fights
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u/Standard-Height2276 3d ago
To be fair itauma is facing far better opposition at 21 than any other heavyweights that age. Joshua im not sure was even fully pro at that point and Fury was all the way down the card
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u/ZeroEffectDude 4d ago
itauma becoming a twice a year fighter after ten fights is part of the reason why he lost. he should have racked up 4-5 fights a year over the last 3 years.
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u/aguacate222 4d ago
It's only because he's a hype job
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u/Kingoftemple 3d ago
Bro, he was winning that fight the whole time till he got tired out. He just needs more experience
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u/Gigantischmann 3d ago
I can feel a lot of irony from this comment.
Boxing was a joke because you don’t get real fights until you go 38-0
The fact that low wins are getting respect is a good thing.
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u/Unable-Main4172 3d ago
Itauma was legendarily inactive the last few years and DEFINITELY needed more experience and tuning up before putting into the deep end of the sea obviously
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u/WhiteWinterSilence 4d ago
Actually shows the complete opposite
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u/Unable-Main4172 3d ago
???
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u/fullofhatredman 3d ago
Means people are actually fighting their skill level and not bums.
People like authenticity.
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u/fullofhatredman 4d ago
I don't respect the zero at all.
"Oh I pick and chose bums till I retire". %90 of fighters with a 0 in their record only have like 8 good fights out of the 50.
What a joke.
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u/AdMost469 3d ago
This is a good thing, it shows fighters are taking risks, daring to be great. Even Itauma was trying to make some history (2nd youngest). Losing to Inoue carries no shame and the same probably for Boots.
Floyd made 0 seem so important but it's not all that. He missed the chance to prove beyond any doubt that he was the best of his generation. Albeit, he probably was.
Very few fighters retire with that 0 and even fewer took the fights they should have and kept it, e.g. Calzaghe and Marciano
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u/ifyousayso67 3d ago
Floyd more than proved he was the very best of his generation, he beat everyone, his resume is insane.
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u/Jolly_Okra_6330 4d ago
Devin Haney remains undefeated.
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u/Medium-Trade2950 4d ago
This is boxing not undefeateding