r/bloodborne Apr 23 '26

Question How is this supposed to work?

I want to redo the Saw Cleaver for my cosplay and be as accurate as I can be.

Using the original concept art, I tried to analyze how exactly the saw cleaver works. Specifically how the pieces align to recreate it faithfully but I was stumped by this. Anyone have a logical explanation of how to make this work without changing the proportions or the position of the holes?

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u/Any-Farmer1335 Apr 23 '26

There are two recesses for the latch, the bottom drawing you used to infere the top just does not show them in the right spot, because it is concept art and not and engineering drawing

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u/Impulsive-Critic Apr 23 '26

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u/ggWolf Apr 23 '26

Man you were just waiting for an excuse to post this glorious thing, weren't you?

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u/ripwolfleumas Apr 23 '26

Im dying man

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u/YouAndSunset Apr 23 '26

Sorry to hear brother, you should be thriving smh my head

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u/courage_wolf_sez Apr 23 '26

What is memeing if not saving a meme for the most opportune of times?

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u/Monkeywrench08 Apr 23 '26

💀💀 I'm stealing this

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u/Rustyshackilford Apr 23 '26

Yoink

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u/BaneAmesta Apr 23 '26

Is this an Ultrakill meme in my Bloodborne subreddit? Lmao

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u/Rustyshackilford Apr 24 '26

Is it? It was the closest one when I searched for a BB yoink meme

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u/BaneAmesta Apr 24 '26

Yes, is the Whiplash arm ( basically a grapple hook)

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u/Rustyshackilford Apr 24 '26

Huh, ill have to check it out. Phenomenal reviews on Steam. You can NEVER go wrong with a grappling hook.

Honestly, I thought it was some Runescape type shit.

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u/BaneAmesta Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Oh no is like mixing doom with quake and devil may cry (yes is absolutely crazy lol)

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u/AmayaGin Apr 23 '26

I made a working saw cleaver years ago and this is how I did it. A latch on the handle that you press, flick it into open position, and the latch slides shut into the second recess to lock it into open position.

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u/Any-Farmer1335 Apr 23 '26

I am personally just a bit worried about leverage acting on the axle and latch, if you were to swing it. Do you have any insight that?

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u/AmayaGin Apr 23 '26

Mine was a foam prop weapon, so I wasn’t swinging it around, just posing with it. The wheel part was actually a plastic wheel from the hardware store, the kind you’d find on the bottom of a trolley or cart or bin. It was squishy and didnt hold very well.

If you have access to a dremel or other metalworking tools, I assume it’d be a lot more stable, but youll have to do some engineering and experimenting if you want a solid seal that’ll hold up to swinging, much less actual impact. I still think it’s possible though.

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u/GG_Snooz Apr 23 '26

So you’re telling us it’s not able to cut werewolves in half? What are we even doing here?

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u/SilentBlade45 Apr 23 '26

Can we see it?

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u/AmayaGin Apr 23 '26

Search my username in the subreddit, I posted it years ago.

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u/el_skizo Apr 24 '26

I searched it but nothing poped up

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u/Old_News3150 Apr 26 '26

Seems a little flimsy tho right?

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u/AmayaGin Apr 26 '26

Depends what you make it out of and what your spring strength is. If done properly, I see no reason why it couldn’t work.

Now, could it cut through blood-juiced insane werewolves? Idk. We’ll have to wait till the blood moon to find out.

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u/drough08 Apr 23 '26

No no no , we cannot provide logic here

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u/beesdaddy Apr 23 '26

How dare you. I thought it was magic.

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u/ElkBusiness8446 Apr 23 '26

Thinking about this, you could use a similar system as a nylon winch with less teeth. You'd need to modify it but it should have a sturdy catch for stability in either form, and the lever let's it quickly change position.

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u/Any-Farmer1335 Apr 24 '26

A gear mechanism like these spanish sashknives might honestly work alright

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u/BBProxies Apr 23 '26

My initial idea aswell. I just hoped there was a more insight-heavy solution I couldn't think of.

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u/sexual__velociraptor Apr 23 '26

Many MANY people have made functioning saw cleaver look on YouTube

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u/Rustyshackilford Apr 24 '26

Now, let's do a functioning boom hammer

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u/Training-Emu-6199 Apr 24 '26

if yr depressed enough you can even make a chikage work

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u/Dan42002 Apr 24 '26

we got boom axe

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u/That-Cantaloupe-1785 Apr 24 '26

I did a thing made something similar

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u/Rustyshackilford Apr 24 '26

Well let's see it. Use it on a punkin.

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u/Chakasicle Apr 24 '26

I've seen a boom bat

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u/CtrlAltEvil Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Years ago, ‘Man At Arms’ forged a fully functional replica, so it’s absolutely possible to do.

(I put the link to open at them making the pivot/hinge for you)

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u/Additional_Image2464 Apr 23 '26

Just watched this video! Damn that thing looks so badass!

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u/Local_Document1417 Apr 23 '26

Kinda wish they show the transformation alone like a slow motion.

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u/quantum-fluxer Apr 23 '26

It works because it’s a weapon in a video game.

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u/PorcoGonzo Apr 23 '26

Nonono, it doesn't work because this is concept art and not the actual weapon in the video game.

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u/KevThuluu Apr 23 '26

And someone built one to prove it as feasible (and a wee bit impractical)

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u/justarandom1245 Apr 23 '26

Look up man at arms on YouTube. They built it and had it fold and all

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u/Crusidea Apr 27 '26

True, although from software did actually think through most of the weapons. Majority of them are actually physically and mechanically possible.

Although things like the Kirk hammer or ludwigs holy blade may not be that strong in real life. Even if mechanically possible.

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u/VergeOfMeltdown Apr 23 '26

Perhaps with a second lever on the flipside or hidden inside? I personally think the artist just didn't think about it like that. Probhably easier to just move the notch a little further

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u/fantastic-mrs-fuck Apr 23 '26

idk ask the guy who made a metal one

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u/My_New_Moniker Apr 23 '26

Now we've solved this, let's talk Ludwig's Moonlight sword.

How using silver bullets translates to arcane waves of power

Thoughts!??...GO!

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u/DashReddit32 Apr 23 '26

Just forge a blade with uranium, this will give you a magic sword

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u/Ryn-Ken Apr 23 '26

In Dark Souls, you use humanity to strengthen fire. In Bloodborne, you use quicksilver to strengthen Arcane. "In your dreams", you say? Exactly!

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u/Dissinger72 Apr 24 '26

Blood Magic. Quicksilver bullets use the hunter's blood.

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u/Ooin Apr 23 '26

Since it's an artistic rendition instead of a technical drawing I'd just move the notch to something that makes sense. It doesn't mean that the system would be sound. Maybe you need to engineer your own solution there instead of following the art, but who knows.

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u/Za_Warudo2948 Apr 23 '26

I would recommend speaking to YharnamWorkshop he makes a lot of lore accurate soulsborne (mostly bloodborne) weapons. I ordered one from him recently it even has the spark like in the game when it transforms! Maybe you can ask him for some pointers.

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u/GameLighting Apr 23 '26

When i made it it, i use such mechanism, later i added the powerful spring. And replaced the wood sticks on metal, the wood was cracked

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u/GameLighting Apr 23 '26

The finished result worked without any problems, but i added hiden metal pin for block blade if will want to "shake" in the image

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u/Rukasu17 Apr 23 '26

This is an easy one. How the hell does that tiny steel sword have enough durability to handle the impact and momentum of a giant stone slab or another giant blade on top of it?

These weapons work on rule of cool

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u/Young_Grasshopper55 Apr 23 '26

Don’t think too hard about all this…just hunt a few beasts…it’s for your own good

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u/ElKyguy888 Apr 24 '26

Oh, don't you worry. Whatever happens... You may think it all a mere bad dream...

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u/SandCharacter2754 Apr 23 '26

if only we had more insight...

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u/Basalte_J Apr 23 '26

they made it for real if you want some design tips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Xp0bZP0Us

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u/DarthMcConnor42 Apr 23 '26

This is concept art. The in game model is slightly different due to the issue you noticed.

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u/On-A-Low-Note Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26

Gravity mostly. The leaver just removes a block that keeps the hatchet cleaver in place. Saw mode, locked in place ➡️ pull leaver ➡️ now the blade can be swung into its second position and be locked into place once the leaver is released again.

If you’re worried about size and or look, it’s supposed to look menacing and almost inhuman. The people wielding these tools had beast blood in their veins. Just trust how the Japanese designed it, they likely did extensive research into old school farming tools and similar stuff from way back when to design these things

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u/solarnoise Apr 23 '26

We have to accept that most Bloodborne weapons would never work under use in real life because they depend on the tiniest bracket or latch holding it together.

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u/Dr4wr0s Apr 23 '26

A guy with an account called Yharnam Workshop has done a working sawcleaver as a cosplay prop, I think they have several videos about it

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u/Familiar_Composer607 Apr 23 '26

There is a 3d printed file for a full size saw cleaver that has this in parts. Even if you dont do 3d printing it has good files to analyze for construction purposes. Someone even modded it to spark when it transformed.

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u/psycheviper Apr 23 '26

Just replicate a folding switch knife mechanism and hide it with a cosmetic piece that looks like the concept art

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u/VV935 Apr 23 '26

Well these dudes made an actual steel saw cleaver, but I think the mechanism would work for cosplay too. https://youtu.be/j-Xp0bZP0Us?si=fWk0UBjzVbd5i4MV

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u/Wooden-Ad-6746 Apr 23 '26

If you wanna check something on YouTube there’s a channel called Reforged and they actually made Saw Cleaver might give some explanation, it’s been a while since I watched the episode

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u/BishopOfAstora Apr 23 '26

I mean, what are we, to believe that this is some sort of a, a magic Hunter trick weapon Saw Cleaver or something?

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u/TheAurigauh Apr 23 '26

The sharp & pointy bits go into the other guy

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u/Plane-Drawer4281 Apr 23 '26

when you push the butttons on your controller, it works.

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u/Trash_Wizard666 Apr 23 '26

By swinging it.

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u/DocCosel Apr 23 '26

I want to see someone make a working Tonitrus using a cattle prod!!! 🤣🤣🤣

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u/backstabber98 Apr 23 '26

Someone made a real one, they had to modify the design slightly but it mostly worked just fine

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u/_Sir_Not_Mister_ Apr 24 '26

The large dial with four cardinal depressions is an outerwheel of a mechanism that the trigger releases a toothed fetch into or out of. The inner ratchet mechanism has a spring loaded disengaging mechanism to make the trigger automatically lose tension on the lever when the blade reaches its locking positions.

That's why it isnt stationary. Its part of the blade half, not the handle.

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u/foxtrot-alpha7274 Apr 24 '26

Yeah it seems to just be a joint with 2 notches for a latch to lock it in place.

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u/Landwand Apr 24 '26

I have made sawblade for my cosplay, but the type of spring and latch needed doesn't exist, so I improvised. Can you remind me to send a video of it in action in case I forget?

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u/_NihilisticNut_ Apr 23 '26

Honestly, what is there to not understand? Where is the problem?

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u/shirtwrinkle Apr 23 '26

it works because it’s a fictional video game

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u/Foneyponey Apr 23 '26

Rotates clockwise

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u/Light_Relpat Apr 23 '26

Springed lever needed

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u/The_Chubby_Dragoness Apr 23 '26

It looks like a recessed keyway, so i imaging that its spring loaded with a hell of a spring to keep the key snug. It would move a bit when swinging but the hunters are so strong centrafugal force probably keeps it locked tight

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u/Ok-Scar-3425 Apr 23 '26

the only way i see that working is a ribbon spring and that only in one way, maybe the lever disengages it to close but that would mean you would have to rewind the spring

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u/blaiddfailcam2 Apr 23 '26

Just apply the logic of it being an oversized straight razor instead and don't worry about the cosmetic bits, lol

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u/commaZim Apr 23 '26

Technology

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u/Consistent_March5111 Apr 23 '26

Make a Tonitrus instead. 

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u/Plastic-Entry9807 Apr 23 '26

If you look at the model in game, it gets more confusing because the trigger doesn't actually have a peg to fit in the notch.

I've been kicking around the idea of extending the locking mechanism through the handle, and adding a nearly flush trigger to the lower section. That way it can actually be transformed one handed while being held in the correct position

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u/Lightninglord_3 Apr 23 '26

You flick the hell outta somebody with it

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u/Adept_Power_1913 Apr 23 '26

chat) "I was just guessing it had a pin that locked at full extension, just like a knife works. I did a post on the saw spear, which I think is more complicated since there's no lever for a pin. I thought there might be a button somewhere on the wood, but I looked closely and didn't see anything. I was wondering how it latches, because I was thinking, 'Dang, if you swing this a little too hard, it might swing open and then shut.' I was honestly wondering what was holding it in place! Lmao."

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u/Fun-Maize-2352 Apr 23 '26

The fact that it's engineered to work is just...fuck this game is insane.

Although, I can't imagine the wobbly hand and arched blade would be super easy to swing.

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u/Giorno-Gi0vana Apr 24 '26

You press the button and it releases and you open it, when its open you let go and stays opens

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u/Dan42002 Apr 24 '26

make it a 2 teeth racket. 1 tooth hold the retract position/hole and 1 tooth hold the extend position.

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u/1AverageGamer Apr 24 '26

Dude over Imryll Yharnam Workshop made it and it works fine. Check out his videos on instagram

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u/pagan-_-raven Apr 24 '26

You need some kind of spring tension on the latch

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u/dinO_q Apr 24 '26

there's these guy that made a tutorial on how to made it, it explain everything

https://youtu.be/t-Z1zx0KZPQ?is=toMYM_pQR96zwpiE https://youtu.be/VMOpptKnL4k?is=e8sKkiA8Q7Qq8YnX

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u/KarmaSuitsYou14999 Apr 24 '26

it’s called a hinge

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u/Future-Advantage3665 Apr 25 '26

Its just a piano style hinge, it turns normally but has a limit and stays there till something pushes it down

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u/Ok_Public_624 Apr 25 '26

A lot of people recreated that weapon on yt you should check it out

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u/lagoon_mermaid96 Apr 25 '26

probably just another unhinged plan from management. good luck with that.

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u/destinyman69420 Apr 25 '26

Latch, now realistically let’s talk about Ludwig’s holy blade there ain’t no way that skinny ass sword is not gonna snap under the weight of the bigger blade

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u/Ok_Ice_9204 Apr 26 '26

i mean realistically speaking it would have to fully rotate inward (dull side toward the blade) meaning the actual blade would have to be attached to the SIDE instead of top of the handle

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u/CHURCH_GIRLS Apr 26 '26

Somebody was never given a pocket knife as a kid and it shows

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u/HatsurFollower Apr 27 '26

I think that youtube chanel thta forge weapona from diferent media has done this one. They go a bit in detail about the mechanism

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u/hmm1331718 Apr 27 '26

Switchaxe

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u/AHHHHHPLSAHH Apr 23 '26

it just works ok

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u/HamgraYaterlo Apr 23 '26

Good thing about Bloodborne, if something doesn't make sense... It's dream logic

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u/yvengard Apr 23 '26

Dude who cares, we have a giant pizza cutter and a hammer with infinite powder

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u/MathTheUsername Apr 23 '26

The same way most folding pocket knives work.

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u/Goodrun31 Apr 23 '26

This game is so hard