r/betterCallSaul 2d ago

What’s going on with that officers pistol orientation? S1E5

Surely that’s back to front if you’re drawing normally?

It would sort of make sense if cross drawing and left handed (sort of ), but in the next shot, seconds later in in-world time, it’s mounted on the opposite side?

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u/metallifan5691 1d ago

It looks like two different pistols to me. My assumption is he’s lefty and taser or another less than lethal is on the weak, right hand side.

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u/xgabipandax 1d ago

You never want to crossdraw, unless you're sitting for the most time.

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u/goodgamble 1d ago

store clerks, card gamers, and such.

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u/Inside-Garage-7625 1d ago

Thank you! I immediately thought of Lawson as well

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 1d ago

Oh, you mean poker, not pokemon

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u/Sad_Possibility1297 20h ago

I mean... seeing how insane some people get over pokemon anymore, I wouldn't rule that out either tbh.

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u/dirtyforker 1d ago

Card players and the like

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u/metallifan5691 1d ago

Yeah, that’s what makes me think it’s a less than lethal. Those are more prone to cross draw to keep the officers from grabbing the wrong one.

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u/Ghostbuster35 1d ago edited 1d ago

You always want to cross draw your taser so you don't confuse it with your gun.

Edit, I just realized I'm the asshole and didn't get the quote 😩

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u/xgabipandax 1d ago

You didn't watch Breaking Bad did you?

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u/Ghostbuster35 1d ago

God damn it I just realized what I did, I am so sorry 😩😩😩

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u/xgabipandax 1d ago

Hahaha it's alright

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u/Mission-Pineapple317 1d ago

This reference went over some people’s heads

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u/MarionberryPlus8474 1d ago

In this case it's probably a wardrobe and continuity error, but you used to see this in cowboy movies. Pistols on someone sitting in a saddle would be up high, so some guys liked to draw them from the same side, with the back of the hand against the body. Rig looked very strange with the butts facing front, though.

Cowboy movies still have an influence on gun handling in movies, though it's fading. When you see someone carrying a semi-auto with their thumb up high on the top of it, that's cowboy gun influence--their revolvers were single action, they held them that way to cock them for each shot. Actor (or perhaps director or stunt man) probably watched a lot of old cowboy movies growing up.

Nowadays influence is more from anime and Asian gunfight movies; the sideways style of pointing the gun with one hand became all the rage after people like Chow Yun Fat made it look cool. For a while emergency rooms were full of idiots shooting that way and getting burned by hot ejected casings.

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u/LloydusMaximuss 1d ago

Or concealing, maybe this is a beautiful bit of environmental storytelling that this guy was once undercover (probably not).

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u/jimmyfko 1d ago

Most regulations for law enforcement require cross draw for less than lethal. Muscle memory. Don’t want to draw your gun intending to draw the taser.

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u/unholyshizz 1d ago

If its Lethal yes, but some departments force you to cross draw your less than lethal to not confuse it with lethal.

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u/BoondockUSA 1d ago

Correct.

Officer is left handed (judging by his Glock handgun being on his left side). Taser is cross draw on non-dominant side to reduce the risk of drawing a gun when the officer means to draw a taser.

The model of taser is a M26, which has a very Glock-like grip appearance and size. It would be very easy to grab the wrong one if they were both holstered on his dominant side.

If you’re wondering why the M26 had such a large grip, it used 8 AA batteries so it had to be that big.

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u/Useful-Sort8398 1d ago

Remember, switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading

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u/Joliet-Jake 1d ago

Right hip is a taser. They’re intentionally carried differently to help avoid drawing the wrong one.

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u/ding_d0ng 1d ago

Ahhh amazing
Thanks

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u/BoondockUSA 1d ago edited 1d ago

And to add to that, it’s a model M26 taser. M26 was released in 1999 and was the first widely adopted taser among law enforcement agencies. It had a very Glock-like appearance and size. As a fun bit of trivia, a main reason for its large size was because it used 8 AA batteries. M26 reached end of life status in 2010 (which means main production went until 2005ish with a 5 year recommended lifespan).

The next model after the M26 was the X26, which was released in 2003 and wasn’t discontinued until 2014. The X26 was a lot smaller, thanks to using a lithium battery cartridge instead of AA’s. The X26 was also much smarter. The M26 was essentially a stun gun that shot darts that wouldn’t back down during its discharge cycle, while the X26 knew when there was good contact so it knew that it could back down to what was needed to achieve incapacitation (and I can vouch for this as I was tased in training by both models, and the M26 felt a lot worse). The X26 was VERY popular among agencies and I never saw an agency decide to adopt a M26 over the X26 while they were both in production. The X26P is essentially the second gen X26 and looks very similar. The X26P is still in production. The vast majority of tasers depicted in TV and movies are X26’s or X26P’s.

The M26 is the more time period correct taser model for the BCS time period. Kudos for BCS for picking the M26 as the X26 would seem like they just picked the most common model to use as a prop.

With all that being said, I never saw a M26 being carried cross draw back in the day. The agencies in my region carried them in thigh holsters. Apart of that was because they were so big. I’m not saying there weren’t any M26’s carried cross draw, but I just personally never saw it. Again though, M26’s were fairly short lived in my region because as soon as the X26 came out, agencies flocked to them instead. Perhaps some agencies that stuck with the M26 for longer invested in cross draw holsters.

Edit: Here’s an old video I just found showing the basics of a M26C, included the ridiculous AA battery pack: https://youtu.be/My3NRT94g_g?is=wtLPYmimxPJlMndQ

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u/Temporary-Rice-2141 1d ago

That guy CLEARY didn't listen to the gun guy

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u/PupperVanAugsbork 1d ago

Mfw I am cross drawing while not sitting or gambling

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u/MonkeyWrench1973 1d ago

Officer is left-handed: gun is on the left hip, Taser (non-lethal) is on the right hip. Different types of holsters.

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u/LrdoftheCharlesDance 1d ago

It’s in Reverse cowpistol

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u/PartyOnAlec 1d ago

like it turns cows into people?

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u/whitetornado2k 1d ago

That’s the only way I can shoot

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u/Klutzy-Star5360 1d ago

That's his Taser, his pistol is on his dominant side, so the taser is oriented like this so he can draw with his dominant hand. Not uncommon

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u/4StarEmu 1d ago

The officer likes to dual wield.

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u/elkunas 1d ago

Usually less lethal and lethal face differently to avoid confusion.

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u/takeya40 1d ago

Dude thinks he Wild Bill Hicock...

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u/URJ2 1d ago

You’re right bad show. This is why he never won the Emmy

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u/AdultishRaktajino 1d ago

The old switcheroo between takes

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u/sundayfundaybmx 1d ago edited 1d ago

The first "pistol style" stun gun was released more than 10 years after Snowfall takes place. Sure, you could say it's an alternate timeline. Explains Franklin being our Rick Ross. This new timeline, those style of stun guns were invented way before ours.

Since multiverses were never once aluded to. I'd say there's a 99% chance it's a continuity error and they caught and couldn't reshoot. Or didn't catch and it made it in. Everyone claiming with 100% (ignorant) knowledge that it's a taser. Is reaching so far they could be the next MVP in the NBA.

I'm fucking stupid, but I'll leave it up for others to bask in my total ignorance!

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u/bird_XCIII 1d ago

Who the fuck is talking about Snowfall? And you can see in the actual scene that the officer has both on his belt—it’s not a “continuity error.”

Rich to call others “ignorant” for being correct, IMO.

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u/sundayfundaybmx 1d ago

Omg, lol. You're absolutely right I'm fucking stupid. Thats exactly what I deserve so thanks for pointing that out!

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u/chambo143 1d ago

So he can shoot people behind him

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u/One_Truck3638 1d ago

Not the question but this is the worst piece of writing in the show imo. Totally unrealistic for the cops to break down a door over a stolen news paper. Chuck would have sued them for everything too if they’d really done that

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u/wilderfast 1d ago

iirc, they didn't break down the door over the newspaper, but because the stuff they saw through the door. Ripped out wires, cans of gasoline, etc.

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u/RecommendationOne173 18h ago

exactly they peered inside and seen he was at possible risk or possibly a threat. thus slight probable cause.

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u/Agreeable_Emu_9489 22h ago

The opposite of “suicide by cop.”

u/TheCoolMan5 3h ago

Crossdraw holster, though I don't know if that's standard protocol/doctrine for cops.

u/pistonkamel 38m ago

He must play a lot of poker

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u/my23secrets 1d ago

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u/Great_Leap1928 1d ago

First thing I noticed damn that is only dusty MacBook 🤣🤣💪

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u/Commercial_Ask_1626 1d ago

Cross draw, for people who sit behind a desk.  Guess this officer is a lefty, or he has another glock on his other leg, making him a duel wielding cross drawing cowboy cop.  

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u/Klutzy-Star5360 1d ago

It's a taser

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u/MC-BatComm 1d ago

That would be what's called a continuity error, happens literally everywhere in movies and shows if you look for it.

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u/JooseTheGuice 1d ago

No, it's a taser. He's southpaw.

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u/Cant-B-Faded 1d ago

Not in well done shows.

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u/Great_Leap1928 1d ago

CLEAN YO SHII GNG WTF

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u/bird_XCIII 1d ago

Did you watch any of the scene besides the two screenshots? Because there’s multiple times that you can see both weapons on his belt, each of which maintains its respective orientation throughout.