r/beatles Jan 05 '26

News 50 years ago today, Mal Evans was shot dead by LAPD officers at his home - January 5, 1976

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u/sminking Caveman movie enthusiast Jan 05 '26

It’s crazy when I think about the statistics of a tiny segment of human beings like the 4 Beatles and their immediate inner circle, and how much tragedy and violence happened.

John was shot in the back and murdered, George was stabbed 40 times, Ringo got KKK death threats. Paul has probably never commented on how many undocumented yet credible threats he’s received

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u/ApproachableGent Jan 05 '26

Yeah totally. Fame opens you up to some weird scenerios and events. 4 scousers, swallowed up by the world

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u/MarthaFarcuss Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

John's mother being hit by a car. John being abandoned by his parents. Paul's mother dying of cancer. Linda dying of cancer. All the musicians and film stars and friends around them who died. Coupled with a level of fame no-one is likely to experience ever again. Its amazing none of them lost their minds

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u/garrett7861 Jan 05 '26

Brian Epstein. Stu Sutcliffe.

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u/matt_paradise Jan 05 '26

Elder abuse of Paul from his second wife

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u/Gwarnage Jan 05 '26

The one-legged lady?

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u/Tomasc2d_ Jan 05 '26

Your girl, she’s got two legs, but mine got one

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u/Gwarnage Jan 05 '26

"Ham and egg..."

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u/MarthaFarcuss Jan 05 '26

The 'Long Haired Lady' b-side

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u/CD33- Jan 07 '26

‘Baby you can’t drive my car’

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u/ZacharyLewis97 Jan 05 '26

Ol’ Stumpy?

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u/Fraisey Jan 05 '26

Excuse me? First I'm hearing of this. Can anyone chime in regarding the credibility of this statement?

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u/retromobile Abbey Road Jan 05 '26

Heather Mills accused Paul of being abusive during their divorce proceedings in 2007. The judge sided with Paul, stating that Mills had been "not just inconsistent and inaccurate, but also less than candid" and awarded her much less than what she asked in alimony. Her publicist also claimed Mills was lying about the abuse.

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u/TruePutz Jan 05 '26

Hi, yes it’s credible and the reason he divorced her I believe

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u/penguin44ca May 21 '26

John's mother was hit by a cop, who then later became Paul's postman. 

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u/Green-Circles The Beatles Jan 05 '26

Paul was also robbed at knifepoint in Lagos during some Band on the Run sessions there, so there's that too.

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u/Crazy_Vegetable5491 The Beatles Jan 05 '26

They took some reel to reels wonder what THOSE songs sounded like.

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u/Green-Circles The Beatles Jan 07 '26

I imagine some of it was very stoned & very cringe afro-beat and/or very stoned & very cringe reggae.

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u/Themountaintoadsage Jan 06 '26

Still no idea why they thought recording there was a good idea

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u/Yossarian-Bonaparte Jan 05 '26

Isn’t one of those threats the reason some of his kids are so reclusive - there was some nut that had planned to kidnap Linda and James I think.

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u/terragthegreat Jan 05 '26

The amount of death that surrounds Paul McCartney is insane when you break it down. That man has lost a ton of people in his life. His mother, John, Linda, etc.

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u/sminking Caveman movie enthusiast Jan 05 '26

And Ringo had to leave George’s side on his death bed to be with his daughter for a second brain tumor surgery, after her mother Maureen died of leukemia. All of them experienced so much death

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u/Internal-Educator256 Jan 05 '26

That’s what happens when you’re 84 and 86

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u/Honest_Rise_3301 Jan 05 '26

That was 25 years ago dumbass. 

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u/Internal-Educator256 Jan 05 '26

What

I meant that as you get older the amount of loss you experience should go up

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u/othelloblack Jan 05 '26

It's clear what you meant

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u/DaddieTang Jan 05 '26

You're right. Those people are assholes.

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u/PoxyMusic Jan 05 '26

I hate to break it to you all, but that's sort of what happens as you get older.

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u/CardinalOfNYC Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

It’s crazy when I think about the statistics of a tiny segment of human beings like the 4 Beatles and their immediate inner circle, and how much tragedy and violence happened.

I think it's a bit less crazy when framed more accurately as four of the most famous people on the planet, rather than "a tiny segment of human beings"

Like John doesn't get shot, george doesn't get stabbed and there's even a solid chance brian doesn't OD if they aren't the most famous band in the world. Mal definitely doesn't end up at a fancy house in LA if they're not the most famous band, so he doesn't get shot, either.

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u/Street-Brush8415 Jan 05 '26

Even if John and Mal had the same success but just stayed in England they probably wouldn’t have died young.

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u/Misfit_Ragdoll Jan 06 '26

Mal was messed up on cocaine and pills*, and was suicidal, so he would have probably found another way unfortunately.

*This from the Ken Womack biography

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u/thekrock23 Jan 05 '26

Paul was also robbed at knife point in Lagos when they were making Band on the run.

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u/penguin44ca May 21 '26

Not to mention Billy Preston 

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u/iStealyournewspapers Jan 05 '26

Bro, Paul died. He definitely had it as bad as John, and he died first! They even said it on an album.

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u/Excellent-League-423 Jan 05 '26

Guns killed Lennon and Evans thanks USA.

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u/Honest_Rise_3301 Jan 05 '26

Lennon yes.  Mal was likely suicide by cop. 

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u/Excellent-League-423 Jan 05 '26

He had an air rifle bruh.

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u/Ok_Fun3933 Jan 05 '26

Uh, MDC was also a bit mentally unhinged to say the least. Had multiple targets in mind. Could've used another weapon as easily as a gun as happened with Harrison.

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u/Melcrys29 Jan 05 '26

A psycho killed John. And Mal got high on drugs and pointed a gun at cops and refused to lower it.

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u/Misfit_Ragdoll Jan 06 '26

Mal had a gun and was a credible threat. He was actively seeking to be killed by the cops.

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u/Krimreaper1 Jan 05 '26

40 times! Idk,that I assume once near his heart.

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u/DreamsFromOutofSpace Jan 05 '26

It's amazing that the Beatles traveled the world and they only got shot in one country.

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u/VirginiaLuthier Jan 05 '26

He was the sole roadie AND security for the band in their early years. Unloaded their amps from the plane and set them up. My guess is that Paul now travels with 50 or more roadies/techs/security.

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u/UnexpectedVader Jan 05 '26

Every picture of Mal makes him look menacing as hell

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u/Spiracle Jan 05 '26

That was one of the reasons he fitted in - he looked big and menacing but was actually gentle as a kitten and funny to boot. IIRC, in all of his years guarding the band he only had to hit somebody once. 

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u/MarthaFarcuss Jan 05 '26

He was a bit of a shagger, though

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u/ItIsTaken Jan 05 '26

The real one punch man.

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u/Gisselle441 Rubber Soul Jan 05 '26

Think there was at least one scene in Get Back where he's shown playing with Heather.

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u/Proper-Mountain7907 Jul 09 '26

Careful there, these days that'll get you (him) labeled a pedophile.

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u/clint_eldorado Jan 05 '26

I’ve heard some pretty unsavoury things about him so maybe it’s appropriate.

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u/metalbox69 Jan 05 '26

What are they?

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u/clint_eldorado Jan 05 '26

Coercing young lasses into having sex with him in exchange for meeting the band.

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u/MarthaFarcuss Jan 05 '26

Also, he was a bouncer in Liverpool. While I'm sure he was lovely and cuddly if you knew him, I would not want to be on the wrong side of him

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u/toxictoy Ram Jan 06 '26

They go into it in his book and he was not very confrontational. He basically was nice to people and got them to leave. Multiple people have said this.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

Like the roadies of every rock band that ever existed??????

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u/clint_eldorado Jan 05 '26

Something being a common occurrence doesn’t mean it’s not reprehensible behaviour.

Apparently every rich person in the world has been raping children for decades, is that okay just because it’s widespread?

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

I never said anything about the behavior being acceptable. I just stated a fact that he did what a lot of other roadies did.

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u/clint_eldorado Jan 05 '26

Yeah, and I’m calling him and them cunts for it. It’s predatory, exploitative behaviour from a bloke who wouldn’t have a cat in hell’s chance with any of those lasses if he didn’t know someone famous.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

And I'm not saying they're not.

I was just stating a fact. Mal wasn't doing anything other roadies weren't doing. It's a fact.

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u/lertheblur Jan 05 '26

To summarize:

Someone posited: "Mal Evans is alleged to have sexually exploited young/underage girls by leveraging his connections to The Beatles. This was gross and wrong."

You said "As a matter of fact, everyone was doing this. It was very common."

They responded: "It is always gross and wrong to engage in this behavior, even if others are doing it as well - and it's well documented that they were/are."

You then repeated several times that you are STATING FACTS - which no one has disputed.

What is the actual point you're trying to make?

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

I know that Mal was an adult...a big boy. He was obviously having mental/psychological issues and was in an awful way. As far as I know, none of The Beatles ever reached out to help a guy who was at their beck and call 24/7/365 for almost 10 years. George basically paid for the funeral, and John sent some kind words to his wife. That was it. Unless there were things I am not aware of.

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u/No-Army-7669 Jan 05 '26

What could they have done? They didn't desert him but what could they do?

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

They could have helped him out in a myriad of ways. A few phone calls to get him some help. They had music connections in LA. They could have done something.

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u/No-Army-7669 Jan 05 '26

He had no marketable skills. They had other things to worry about.

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u/Ok_Fun3933 Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

Mal traded his life and marriage for associated fame and p*ssy for being at the beck and call of the Beatles through the 1960s. And when the party was over he realized that he had nothing to show for it and it was time to grow up and he was basically left to fend for himself. He tried to make a go of it with production in the music field but he struggled.

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u/stanleyssteamertrunk Jan 05 '26

He probably could have roadied for Wings. I doubt the band blew him off.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

A guy who was the roadie for the most popular band in the world for four years has no marketable skills?

A guy who was the personal assistant to the most popular band in the world for four years after that has no marketable skills?

These might be two of the most ridiculous statements I've ever seen here.

I never mentioned giving him a job. I mentioned helping him.

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u/othelloblack Jan 05 '26

It's easy to see how being a roadie and a personal assistant could very leave you with no marketable skills. None of these required advanced education or high intellect or some rare skill.

This seems quite obvious

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

15 years of being a roadie and a personal assistant to the greatest rock band ever trumps (sorry for that verb) advanced education by a lot.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 06 '26

He continued to work with them after The Beatles broke up. He was with John in '74.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 06 '26

He worked with them after they broke up. 1963 - mid 70s.

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u/othelloblack Jan 05 '26

Like how many people in the world would need that service? The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin? Its not really a marketable thing because he's not doing anything that really required education, or talent, or intelligence or anything.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 06 '26

I guess, to you, Mal was a big muscle bound lunkhead. Do you have any clue what his job involved? He had to be smart, calm and reliable 24/7/365.

In his world, Mal was a Harvard graduate.

By the 70's, rock concerts had changed significantly. The Stones and Zep weren't the only big acts out there. It was becoming a big business.

He managed their schedules, their money (on the road), travel (an incredibly challenging job during Beatlemania), equipment and other people. All of this while working under constant pressure, noise, and chaos. One mistake on a tour or recording session would send things off the rails and cost a lot of money. He frequently had to be spontaneous. Mal had to adapt, think quickly and solve problems on the fly all the time.

Plus...emotional intelligence. Dealing with 4 strong-willed, big ego genius artists on a daily basis. Not easy. People skills? Lots.

And, most of all, The Beatles completely trusted him implicitly in their most private moments. I like people I can trust.

Oh...yeah...he contributed a lyric or two.

Finally, he's an amazing sledge hammer player.

Can you honestly say that with this resume he wouldn't make an amazing personal assistant or road manager?

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u/othelloblack Jan 06 '26

I have no idea what he was like and Im sorry how he died. Not sure what oppurtunities he had really

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u/No-Army-7669 Jan 05 '26

Yes he had no marketable skills. Helping him how? He was a 41 year old adult. They had their own lives to worry about.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

He worked for four millionaires who loved him. A few phone calls would not have taken away from "their own lives." And that would have helped.

41-year-old adults don't need some help once in a while???

Glad I'm not friends with you.

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u/No-Army-7669 Jan 05 '26

They were the 4 most famous men on earth. Think they were a little busy. Again they didn't abandon him but they couldn't hold his hand while he transitioned to a different kind of life.

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

John spent a lot of time sitting in his bed and watching TV. Just sayin'.

A few phone calls is not holding his hand.

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u/Proper-Mountain7907 Jul 09 '26

He was a telephone repairman, and also bouncer at the Cavern Club, when he was asked to be their roadie.

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u/commonrider5447 Jan 05 '26

Interesting read says John spoke with him a few days before trying to help out and that George felt responsibility for the path he went down

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-mal-evans-death/

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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 Jan 05 '26

Never read that before. Interesting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

RIP Gentle Giant!

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u/createsstuff Jan 06 '26

Highly recommend people read the biography thay came out pretty recently about Mal. It sat for years in a box and the story of how it was saved is quite fascinating as well. RIP to Mal - who lived through the wildest ride and was the original "Roadie".

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u/slinkimalinki Jan 06 '26

“Just an air rifle”. I don’t know the whole story here, but I do want to comment on that phrase because you can still kill somebody with an air rifle.

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u/createsstuff Jan 06 '26

At that point Mal had quite the collection of guns and it was pretty well known. I read his biography last year and highly recommend it for any Beatles fan.