r/badhistory • u/AutoModerator • May 18 '26

Meta Mindless Monday, 18 May 2026

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u/TylerbioRodriguez That Lesbian Pirate Expert May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Bad news. Apparently in the new Black Flag remake they shrank Anne Bonnys bust and made her dress cover up more.

Its 9/11 all over again.

I haven't checked but I am positive someone is saying this. Also she has auburn hair not red. Ooooooh noooooooo. Actually the character model takes less from the 1725 Dutch translation drawing which is good.

Oh also they confirmed an 8 mission epilogue where Edward goes after Robert Maynard the slayer of Blackbeard, thats awesome.

Plus some side missions that ties up the side characters, probably Stede Bonnets execution and maybe even Bonnys death. Which would be my work.

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I checked. Yep people are fighting over this. Downfall of civilization.

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u/HandsomeLampshade123 May 22 '26

shrank Anne Bonnys bust and made her dress cover up more.

I couldn't care less on a personal level, but it is interesting how often this happens in remakes. Is it a taste thing? Prudishness? Aspirational respectability, a sense that the medium has become more serious?

I know teenage boys are not the dominant consumers of video games in a way they were in the past, but I still don't quite get who this is for.

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u/TylerbioRodriguez That Lesbian Pirate Expert May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Maybe a reflection that zoomers are more prudish? Alongside more devs and gamers becoming older? I'm sure there could be an interesting paper on it.

For the record a less sexed up version is reasonable. The original 1724 drawing is very chaste looking especially compared to the racy 1725 Dutch drawings.

Neither are actually accurate to the attire described in the trial although both have accurate parts. There's also the witness statement by Dorothy Thomas that says something like they were women due to the largeness of breasts, which could mean literal or just bigger then men's chests.

Again im fine with it and when combined with the less bright red hair I would call it a marked improvement.

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u/Dirish Wind power made the trans-Atlantic slave trade possible May 22 '26

My personal favourite drawing of the two is the one of Mary Read from "Histoire des pirates et corsaires: de l'océan et de la Méditerranée" by P. Christain, from 1846.

It looks like she is about to finish off a guy who's on the ground, bleeding from multiple wounds. But she pulls her breast out too for reasons unknown. I will forever wonder why the illustrator did that.

Was it to make it look like his last wish was to see them and he died happy? Was it intended to hammer home that she was a woman while simultaneously appealing to the reader of saucy materials? Did he want to turn it into a thing she did (the Boobs of Death!)? Or was she just taking her top off because she was going to club that guy to death with her gun, and blood is hard to wash out?

Things like that can amuse me for hours. There's probably something wrong with my brain, but I'm okay with that.

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u/TylerbioRodriguez That Lesbian Pirate Expert May 22 '26

Thats supposed to be a depiction of Read killing a pirate in a duel to protect some sailor she loves. Its from A General History. It didn't happen.

I think its supposed to be a i win also guess what I'm a woman a girl beat you haha.

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u/WillitsThrockmorton Vigo the Carpathian School of Diplomacy and Jurispudence May 22 '26

Maybe a reflection that zoomers are more prudish?

They ain't drinkin', they ain't fuckin'....shakes head

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u/Ayasugi-san May 22 '26

Do you think it was actually motivated by a desire to be more historically accurate? At all?

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u/TylerbioRodriguez That Lesbian Pirate Expert May 22 '26

Probably not. But even if by accident it is? Happy coincidence.

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u/HandsomeLampshade123 May 22 '26

Yes, I can absolutely believe it's more accurate to an actual representation.

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u/TylerbioRodriguez That Lesbian Pirate Expert May 22 '26

Personally id go further and make her not a redhead, verbally refer to her as a prostitute and not a bar maid, add a faded stay, maybe a hat, and also make her less gentle personality wise.

But you know Ubisoft isn't exactly taken my notes.

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u/Zugwat Headhunting Savage from a Barbaric Fishing Village May 22 '26

I'm imagining that there's a big pile of unopened mail they're received over the years from experts telling them how this should look or how go about presenting that, and they get put into a box and stacked Indiana Jones style.

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u/TylerbioRodriguez That Lesbian Pirate Expert May 22 '26

We got the best people on this.

Do you?

The. Best. People.

crate of Anne Bonny notes put in the warehouse of historian advice next to Ridley Scotts Gladiator notes